Radogast 2016 - The Neverending Growing

Nancy Reagan has died.

Time for 'Just Say No' to die as well.

True that - Yeah wow... sheesh. I had a little flash back that seemed like a bad dream. Man 0 man in the early 80s we had some mighty fine bud you could get off the street ... and poof everyone got paranoid and it was like trying to find gold! errr Oh yea it was gold .... WEED. psst. Point = everyone was worried they were going to jail for life... Thankfully there were a few folks that held seeds tight to the chest back then.

Well good on her, I'm sure she meant well given the mis-information of the times and her husband.


Hey Rad congrats on the harvest. buds a hangin! Right on. Good to see you keepin it green my friend.

Hey Rad just a quick add on here - have you tried using Aloe for your cloning medium? It's got everything those chem cloning formulas do but organic. The plants will start off without any funky growth patterns like I see when I use the powders and gels. Gets the plants a better start. It will help down the road.

Dip the stem in the aloe gel put in cube - I sometimes soak the cube in aloe and water for a few hrs. Then into cloner with aloe gel mixed in water - it's going to foam so easy on the aloe gel and add in some coconut water. Coconut water and aloe gel = everything in spades the rooting gels and powders have and organic.
 
True that - Yeah wow... sheesh. I had a little flash back that seemed like a bad dream. Man 0 man in the early 80s we had some mighty fine bud you could get off the street ... and poof everyone got paranoid and it was like trying to find gold! errr Oh yea it was gold .... WEED. psst. Point = everyone was worried they were going to jail for life... Thankfully there were a few folks that held seeds tight to the chest back then.

Well good on her, I'm sure she meant well given the mis-information of the times and her husband.


Hey Rad congrats on the harvest. buds a hangin! Right on. Good to see you keepin it green my friend.

Hey Rad just a quick add on here - have you tried using Aloe for your cloning medium? It's got everything those chem cloning formulas do but organic. The plants will start off without any funky growth patterns like I see when I use the powders and gels. Gets the plants a better start. It will help down the road.

Dip the stem in the aloe gel put in cube - I sometimes soak the cube in aloe and water for a few hrs. Then into cloner with aloe gel mixed in water - it's going to foam so easy on the aloe gel and add in some coconut water. Coconut water and aloe gel = everything in spades the rooting gels and powders have and organic.

I have not tried rooting in aloe. I was hoping to have a willow tree planted by the brook by now and use willow water. At this point, we only have one large aloe plant and a couple of seedlings. My 2014 willow cuttings and my aloe pups from November never really took.

Between kitchen burns, cuts, and cracked winter feet, our one aloe plant just barely keeps up with the household needs. My wife has been talking about homemade cannabis lotions. I'll put aloe on my wish list so I can have one for cloning needs. Fortunately aloe seems to do well under indirect sunlight and regular house lighting, so I should be able to find a place for another plant. :)


As for the early 80s marijuana paranoia, I think a lot of that was from the paraquat spraying in Mexico, and spiking weed with 'angel dust.'
 
I am not able to contribute this spring, but I ask you to take a look at this gofundme campaign to buy SirJohnC a new chair. It's worth a look, if only informationally. SirJohnC has supported me with encouragement and intrigued me with ideas and techniques here on :420: since very shortly after I joined. I miss him.

Click here to support King John C's Special Chair Fund organized by Robert Griffin

Sir John C. has given more time and great info to this forum than just about any here. Thanks for spreading the good word Rad!

:party:The goal has been reached. Job well done :goodjob::420::thumb:
 
Congrats on the harvest Rad! It's always a good day when you get to hang up some homegrown. :thumb:

Amen. Back-to-back harvests are the best. :high-five:
 
Late Veg

The Flowering Room is down to 3 plants but in the next 3 weeks, there should be two plants harvested and 3-5 plants move in from Late Veg.

The smallest plant in Late Veg, 12" Giselle. Her leaf petioles turned red under the purple CFL as did Northern Lights and Girl Scout Cookies.

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Late Veg: Back row (left to right) Giselle, Northern Lights-Stella, AK47-Bonnie.
The front row was freshly trimmed (left to right) Carmelicious-Latrice Royale, White Widow-Ava, Girl Scout Cookies-Georgia

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I'm looking forward to your flower cycle with these veg girls. You have some good genetics there bud. These all look very healthy. Love the sheen and shine on those leaves.

Great job Rad!
 
Amen. Back-to-back harvests are the best. :high-five:

Hi Sue,

What are back to back harvests? Are you talking about a perpetual grow like ziggs? That would definitely make for a happy day.

I have a tendency to chop one plant at a time. So in a way I have back to back harvests every 3 months lol. Those are good days. :high-five:
 
Clone vs Clone - pre-harvest


Below follows the history of these Snowcap sisters

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On 11/05/15, I decided to make a test.

My premise for Snow Queen was that a newly planted rooted clone will look better in 30 days than a woody old clone held too long in a 1-liter pot. Here are old and newly planted clones side-by-side. It's a competition!

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On 11/23/15, the new clone looks like it won't be quite filling the pot at 30 days old (yes my early veg is slow). However the competition is for which one looks better for transplanting.


4 month old clone vs clone just 18 days from planting.

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On 11/29/15,

The 'Young clone' was rooted and had been in a 4" pot for about 3 weeks.
The 'Old clone' was rooted and had been in a 4" pot for about 3 months.

I transplanted the young clone and the old clone into the same pot to share the same grow environment.

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My concern was that a plant kept 'too long' in a 4" pot became under-nourished, root-bound, and lost stem flexibility.
My guess was that a young, more vibrant plant would eventually outperform a plant that had been stunted in early veg.


12/21/15, Notice that both clones grew too leggy - I did no training, partly in my desire to avoid skewing the side-by-side comparison.

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Young leaf vs New leaf - In a surprise to me, the upper growth of both clones are similar in size and health.

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Looking forward to a day I may want to actually harvest some bud, I decided I could no longer wait to train and decided to supercrop to encourage branching. The top of the old clone snapped rather than bent.

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01/05/16, Snowcap clone vs clone experiment from the same mother.

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The old clone on the left (4 months in a small pot) looks almost as good as the young clone (1 month in a small pot.) The old clone has it's direct rooted top growing to help out with yield. The young clone has a thick, green stalk.[/QUOTE]


01/26/16, Graduation Day


The old and new clones of Sno Queen were moved from Late Veg to the Flowering Room.
The rooted top of the old clone was too short to be worth flowering, and I don't have an available large pot, so I topped the top and stuck her in the cloner until I have a spot for her.

The above ground growth is similar, with the old clone having a edge before I topped her. My theory was that the new clone would be significantly outgrowing the old clone by now. I was wrong. The most important comparison is in the harvested buds. Time will tell.



Old Clone (left - vegged many weeks in a small pot while rootbound) vs New Clone (same mother, better vegging in a small pot)

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The new clone trunk is green and fatter than a bic pen.

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The old clone trunk is less green and thinner than a bic pen. The smaller branch looks like the trunk used to appear.

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On 03/10/16, 44 days in the flowering room (under 11/13 600W HPS light)


The old clone is on the right and seems to have 20-30% less bud mass

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After 44 days in the flowering room, the trichomes are mostly cloudy. I am tempted to harvest Saturday morning.

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Well good on her, I'm sure she meant well given the mis-information of the times and her husband.
Brings to mind the aphorism "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" or alternatively "hell is full of good meanings, but heaven is full of good works." If she would have taken the time to learn more about that which she preached her message may have been different much like their stance on stem cell research 'evolved'.
 
Old Clone vs New Clone - Harvest Day

Clone vs Clone.

Two clones, from the same mother, separated by time.
The young clone was an optimal 4 weeks in a 4" pot
The older clone was a root bound 4 months in a 4" pot - waiting for an opportunity to be transplanted.
The young and the old were bound together by fate in the same pot, same water, same light.

Neither were big girls, but they matured fast in the Flowering room - a mere 46 days under 600W HPS (10.5 hours ON, 13.5 hours OFF)

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The trichomes are cloudy, which is good timing for this 'up' Snowcap strain

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Young clone on the left - before trimming

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Young Snowcap on the left - after trimming

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Young Snowcap on the left - after bud washing

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The young Snowcap has somewhere between 1/3 more and twice the bud of the older clone.

I will do a weigh-in after they are dry.
 
Very interesting Rad,

The new clone definitely looks to be bigger in the yield department. I regularly use "root bound" technique to slow down growth. I never imagined I would be hurting yield. I knew I was stressing them and look for herm traits. This makes me think that leaving them in small pots isn't a great idea.
 
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