Radogast 2016 - The Neverending Growing

Thanks. I know you and Feral are looking out for me... I do have a bit of a stubborn streak but I listen to reason too :)

Me too Rad, I'm like a stubborn old mule lol. But you're absolutely right, I wouldn't have said a thing if I didn't care. :circle-of-love:
 
Terpenes and other cannabinoids besides THC and CBD will change the high. I want to harvest at peak terpene level. Without testing and just using my nose that comes out to about 80% cloudy.

I'm catching up here but this is how I do it. I can smell when the ladies gave it their all and are getting tired. I try and harvest when its a very dieselly sweet smell but not over bearing.

All that said its definitely cultivar dependent. Just like yield its: genetics genetics genetics. This is why I found a cultivar I really like that suites my growing style which is way hands off lazy and don't want to even go in the flower room. I found one I like and grow it all the time. Less is more for me.

So get to know your strain that you like to grow and run it a bunch of times. It's going to get better as you adjust and figure out what works best for you and your ladies and your growing style.

Re: water PH - I use RO water which is exactly 6.5 PH - the only thing I test is PPM AFTER my filter is say 8 months old. We use the RO water for all our water uptake so we filter a lot of water not just for gardening (cooking and drinking). I can't for the life of me understand why anyone with lead issues in water don't use a RO filter?? Think Flint, MI.

In organic soil the microbes use/change soil PH to adapt to what the plants root exudates are giving back to the microbes. It's a symbiotic relationship. Feed the soil ... plants will follow and so will yield. Faith is time immortal.

Here's a good read:

Soil Health - part3

I'm going to continue reading along ... Rad your new round of girls are looking VERY healthy. If you see a change to that, take pause and look back at what YOU changed.

In soil (organic), plants that are growing normally will continue to do so, there should not be a big change until the flowering cycle is getting closer to the end. Sometimes I want to intervene when no intervention is required.
I always think thrice before chop, and sometimes more.

Keep it green and best wishes and health to all. You are on the track to win!
 
I'm catching up here but this is how I do it. I can smell when the ladies gave it their all and are getting tired. I try and harvest when its a very dieselly sweet smell but not over bearing.

Smell is an interesting thing. I just jarred up 2 girls, both Caramelicious clones of different mothers, grown side-by-side. During the second half of flowering, Quiffa had a sour, slightly diesel aroma that was the strongest in the room. Sassy smelled nothing much. After drying 8 days, Sassy has a strong lemon and honey scent and Quiffa smells like nothing. My wife smells an entirely different aroma from Sassy than I do, and a 3rd adult just said "I can't tell what it smells like, but it smells real dank!"


All that said its definitely cultivar dependent. Just like yield its: genetics genetics genetics. This is why I found a cultivar I really like that suites my growing style which is way hands off lazy and don't want to even go in the flower room. I found one I like and grow it all the time. Less is more for me.

So get to know your strain that you like to grow and run it a bunch of times. It's going to get better as you adjust and figure out what works best for you and your ladies and your growing style.

My first two strains were 'White Widow' and 'Caramelicious' from the same breeder. The two strains grow, look, and smell almost identical. I have my doubts that there is much connection between their strains and the famous strains of the same names, but they are both fun and giggly highs.

The third strain I added, Hawaiian Skunk' was very similar in growth rates and responses to soil and water conditions but radically different in structure, smell, and leaf shape.

I have played with more 7 strains in the last year, and each shows distinct characteristics in how they respond to stress, light, training, and timing. A better memory would really help this part :) It has been interesting to see the differences between what is fun to grow and what is fun to smoke.

I look forward to growing these and a very few other strains a bunch of times. Cloning really leads the grower to understand the impacts of intentional and unintentional growing experiments.



Re: water PH - I use RO water which is exactly 6.5 PH - the only thing I test is PPM AFTER my filter is say 8 months old. We use the RO water for all our water uptake so we filter a lot of water not just for gardening (cooking and drinking). I can't for the life of me understand why anyone with lead issues in water don't use a RO filter?? Think Flint, MI.

I am blessed with chlorine-free town well water of 6.6 pH and 150-ish PPM. I guess that's why over 3% of the households in my town have small grow ops :)


In organic soil the microbes use/change soil PH to adapt to what the plants root exudates are giving back to the microbes. It's a symbiotic relationship. Feed the soil ... plants will follow and so will yield. Faith is time immortal.

Here's a good read:

Soil Health - part3

Thanks. I'll be reading this sometime this week. I could read it in 5 minutes, but it looks like a page that deserves more attention to the details.



I'm going to continue reading along ... Rad your new round of girls are looking VERY healthy. If you see a change to that, take pause and look back at what YOU changed.

I am seeing:
Increased vegetative health and growth rates
- In Early Veg, I attribute this to A) reduced time in the 1-liter small pots, this is a direct result of 'holding' plants in the bucket cloner to enhance timing of the perpetual grow, and B) more consistent, individual watering.
- There is unrealized potential for faster, healthier growth in the 1-liter pots with an improved seedling soil mix.
- I am also trying to chose larger and 'better' clones
- In Late Veg, I think they like the Agromax Pure Par T5HO bulbs Emilya recommended. These CFLs have a purplish spectrum the girls seem to enjoy.


A decline in flowering health and bud growth
- This is probably because of the spider mites and some stressful experiments with different anti-mite sprays.
- I am testing top dressing with worm castings when I move the girls into the flowering room.

A major increase in bud quality
- This may also be because of the stress of spider mites and anti-mite sprays.
- Switching from 12/12 to 11/13 may have helped.
- I recently went 10.5/13.5 to see if it affects the buds.



In soil (organic), plants that are growing normally will continue to do so, there should not be a big change until the flowering cycle is getting closer to the end. Sometimes I want to intervene when no intervention is required.
I always think thrice before chop, and sometimes more.

Keep it green and best wishes and health to all. You are on the track to win!

I have had 3 eras in the flowering room:
- Yellowing in early flower (bottled nutes and poor soil)
- Green in early flower (fresh made CC-mix soil and SWICK watering) - highest yield
- Yellowing in early flower (use CC-mix soil, spider mites, and not using the SWICK) - highest quality

I am aiming for moderate to high yields of highest quality.
Somedays, I feel I am on the right track. Somedays ot :)

Thanks for giving me an excuse to analyse what may or may not be on the track towards good yields of high quality buds.
 
Caramelicious Harvest

I jarred up the two Caramelicious that grew up together in the same 10-gallon pot. I won't be doing that again. While I proved that Quiffa has better vegetative growth and higher yield than Sassy, I believe I would have had better yield in seperate pots. Quiffa might have had better yield growng alone than the combined yield of growing together.


Caramelicious Sassy came in just under 10 grams. Caramelicious Quiffa yielded 24 grams.

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In jars and ready for use. Typically, 2/3 of each harvest will be toked and 1/3 of each harvest will be cured and aged. Most of our aged cannabis was from early 2015 and toked in January and February.

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Hey Rad, my new 600w OG nanolux arrived today, i took a pic to show the differences ;) sorry its a bit dark, seems only difference is the USB port for the RTU, led's moved and status led changed to Superlux, I still have a few hours before it even switches on though to test that feature :rofl:

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Hey Rad, my new 600w OG nanolux arrived today, i took a pic to show the differences ;) sorry its a bit dark, seems only difference is the USB port for the RTU, led's moved and status led changed to Superlux, I still have a few hours before it even switches on though to test that feature :rofl:

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Superlux is 110% overdrive. I wonder what that does to the life of an HPS bulb.
 
Superlux is 110% overdrive. I wonder what that does to the life of an HPS bulb.

I thought the same, i do have a few bulbs here now to test it out though :)
I was thinking it cant be too bad, with the advantages of soft starts etc with digi ballasts and the extra life you can get with bulbs using the units, i would think they would still have a longer life than a regular magnetic setup. I will be using the DigiMax bulbs which are designed for digi ballasts which will also help. Still not sure if i will even run the superlux, all depends on temps in the tent. I mainly want to get the RTU and DTU so i can do away with these digital timers, have had a few issues with them not turning on over the past few weeks :(
 
Cloner Mod

Last night, my clones looked like they were powdered and dying.

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Opening the bucket, I saw the power cord had pushed over the pump earlier in the day after I lifted the lid to look at the roots.

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Due to a cost efficient design, the power cord enters the bucket through the lid next to one of the neoprene rings. This means the power cord moves around when the lid is moved.

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I used a hand saw to cut a slit in the side of the bucket and rerouted the cord through the new slit.
I had considered doing this weeks ago. Today, it was finally time :)

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The clones appear mostly recovered :)

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Rad said:
A major increase in bud quality
- This may also be because of the stress of spider mites and anti-mite sprays.
- Switching from 12/12 to 11/13 may have helped.
- I recently went 10.5/13.5 to see if it affects the buds.

Could the increase be from using the Neem Oil FTW??

My IPM includes neem cake meal .... I haven't seen a bug in our indoor gardens since I started IPM sprays many many moons ago.

knock knock... wood.

Congrats on your harvest Rad :thumb: - keep it green. Cheers
 
Hey Rad, have you thought about popping some little spray heads in the holes you drilled into the PVC? That's a nifty little homemade cloner there.

Actually an inexpensive ebay purchase :)

No need to add spray nozzles that could clog, there is a lot of splash when the streams hit the sides of the bucket - mist moistens a hand above the bucket rim.


Could the increase be from using the Neem Oil FTW??

My IPM includes neem cake meal .... I haven't seen a bug in our indoor gardens since I started IPM sprays many many moons ago.

knock knock... wood.

Congrats on your harvest Rad :thumb: - keep it green. Cheers

If I ever make another soil amendment purchase, neem cake will be part of the order.
The first run of the neem cake in the soil killed fungus gnat larvae for over 5 months.
It might still be working, I haven't seen more than 2 gnats in a week for months now.

I'll also buy and try one ingredient for bigger buds - but It'll be at least 2 months before I order anything new.
 
Cloning Experiment

After chatting on smokeater's thread, I put together a little cloning experiment based upon Lembatoast's tried and true technique and the supplies I had on hand Toast's 2016 Indoor/Outdoor Grow Journal



1. Rockwool cubes were soaked overnight in a mixture of 12oz water, 1/4 tsp cloning liquid.

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Usually I soak for 15 minutes. The cloning liquid label recommended 2-4 hours.


2. Cuttings were taken from apical meristems (on the diagonal). I this case, a Girl Scout Cookies in pre-flower.

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Yes. My scissors are all sticky. I was trimming this morning. :)


3. Cuttings went immediately into the rockwool cubes. I don't use pre-existing holes. I went for a tight fit by pressing the stem into the rockwool.

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4. Cubes and cuttings were placed in a plastic bag, the bag was inflated with my breath, then sealed.

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I probably should have labelled the bag before I inflated it :rofl:


5. I plan to open them up and breathe in new air every 2 days or so.


If this technique works, I can move the bag into the flower room - this could be an easy, fast way to sex non-feminized plants :)
 
Harvest Day - White Widow and Girl Scout Cookies


I trimmed the White Widow in the Garden Room. It was a bit inconvenient due to dim lighting.

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I set up GSC Annabelle on the table in the basement smoking lounge.

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I found I enjoyed trimming standing up. Both pots were in the Flowering Room for 74 days - about a week longer than most recent harvests.

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I think I will have about a 1/2 oz of White Widow and a bit over an ounce of Girl Scout Cookies.
I hope the two newest girls in the Flowering Room yield much better.

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We are back down to 4 girls in the Flowering Room. I moved them all under the right side light.

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... and then there were 3


I took a look at the 4 labels on the door and noted Tangerine Dream Ghita was 58 days in the Flowering Room.

I took a look at the trichomes on TND Ghita and saw she was ready for harvest.

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One thing about small plants, they trim fast

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Tangerine Dream Ghita was nicely frosted and a little bit purple.

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Trimmed washed and hung to dry in under 15 minutes

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Three girls left in the Flowering Room

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Congrats on the harvest Rad! It's always a good day when you get to hang up some homegrown. :thumb:

Thanks :) I like harvest days :)


Congrats, man...I'm just watching and learning :cheertwo:

Dang. Now I have to think of something interesting and educational :rofl:

I refined my ideas on trimming today, but I don't know if they are ideas I can put into words or pictures.
 
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