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Aaron Quix
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Re: Quix's Corner-"Puddle-o-Green"-NL&Bagseed Indoor Soil Experiment
Hmmmm, hosiery....Good idea OMM thanks! I may have to consider that!!
Bummer you cant taste anything my friend, although I suppose it could be interesting to know if it caused your other senses to become more accute....Has it?...
Now there's a good discussion XL, thanks for bringing that up! I agree that the dry n cure is probably the #1 thing that affects the taste. I would be real interested to hear what others have to say about this subject, although not everyone will see this journal....I wonder if maybe we should start a thread just for this topic...( that is if there isnt one already...)
But I'd be more than happy to host that discussion right here if anyone has input!
The deciding factor as to whether or not I use the OC+ though, has more to do with the extension of flowering time, I think, than anything else(now that I know I can top dress with panty hose)....Still considering it, but I cant seem to make up my mindThanks a bunch for the feedback bro!!
Dime Bag!! (ha ha I told you variations of that name may arise from time to time, sorry bro!)
I'd be more than happy to tell you how to do it buddy, This was my first time and If you want you can look at the thread I read about it, although it was worded kinda sloppy n it felt like I was winging it the whole time...
Make sure you read my following post about being careful with this stuff when you're done reading this though bro!!
So basically, it can be done in a crock pot( which I did ) or it can be done on the stove top in a pot...I odnt like the idea of doing it on the stove because I leave it to simmer over night...
If you DO use the stove, I suggest you use a 6 qt pot or similar.
All it takes is 1 lb. unsalted butter(researched why to use unsalted over salted, my conclusion was that it is better to use unsalted, because most recipies call for unsalted, like cookies and so on...there were other reasons but just trust me its better...)
So 1 lb unsalted butter.
1 oz. whatever you want, I used bud from my last harvest, but from what I've read you can use trimmings, and what not...(obviously it'll be more potent with the bud)
I used a blender, and just dumped the stuff in, and pulsed on n off until I liked the grade...
I melted the butter(all of it) in a pot on the stove while the crock pot heated.
While the butter is melting, bring a good 2 cups of water to a boil.
This water is simply going in with the butter and buds, and will stay on the bottom as the butter will float on top of it. The water acts as a teperature buffer, prevents the butter from burning...
If you're using the crock pot, keep it on the lowest setting possible, like warm if it has it. For the stove top, low, or whatever setting allows just the mildest simmer...
Once your butter is melted completely, pour it into the heated crock, (or just leave it in your pot)
Then, pour in the boiled water
Then your groung herb.
Give it a stir, and check on it every 5-10 minutes at the beginning just to make sure it doesn't start to roll too much, you only want a very slow simmer, and from what I understand THC is in danger of being destroyed at temps above 350 or so (Feel free to chime in here if Im off, Anyone!)
Its a good idea to keep a lid on it, either the kind with a small hole to vent, or just put it on a little crooked so the pressure doesnt build, but also so your water doesnt cook off and allow your butter to burn.
I let it simmer for around 12.5 hours, but the thread I read said he only does it for 3....So far I like my method.
Once you're satisfied that your butter is now budder, take a pair of panty hose, and stretch them over a tupperware, or a coolwhip tub as I did. you want the diameter of the container to be such that when the butter cools into a decently thick slab, so that when you try to pick it up it doesnt crumble into the water from which it separated. I was able to just loosen the edges of the budder, and tip the container to drain the water.
Anyway, once you have your hose on the tub, simply pour the whole mix, slowly, through the panty hose. Once its all in the tub, unroll the hose carefully, and you should have a sock of soggy nastiness. Squeeze the crap out of it into the tub to get the remaining yummys.
I even went a step further ( although I dont feel this step really added all that much) But you can take that sock of gunk, and put it in apot of boiling water, and get every last drop of yuck out. just simmer like before, only with the lid off so the water can boil off, leaving a little more butter in the bottom, and then add that to the other butter.
Put it in the fridge, and it'll take a good 4 hours at least to harden up. Once it does, follow the directions above to get the water out....
Then comes the fun....deciding what to put it on, or in....
Hope this helps, and heres the link to the other thread. Let us know how you do bro!!
See post below!!!
Hi Quixilvir
I gotta pull Blue's leg every once is a while, keeps him grounded. Blue is a fine grower and best of all he's willing to try anything once. That's the way we learn.
Man I haven't had a real down home peach cobbler in 50 years. Yours will extra special. Save me a piece! Yep, you better grow without OC+ this time, no way to flush it at all. There are some folks who just put OC+ in a piece of lady's hose and lay it on top of the soil. Then remove it to flush.
Since I really can't taste much of anything I don't worry about it.
Enjoy that cobbler my friend.
Hmmmm, hosiery....Good idea OMM thanks! I may have to consider that!!
Bummer you cant taste anything my friend, although I suppose it could be interesting to know if it caused your other senses to become more accute....Has it?...
I might get some disagreement on this, but I'll post it anyway. My experience, and I've tried both ways at least a couple of times now, is that the flush really helps remove chemical taste from the trim leaves, but the buds are fine even without a flush as long as they are dried and cured properly. There are some long time, good growers who don't flush at all anymore because they also believe this and have experimented with it and decided flushing was a waste of time.
Again, it is debatable, and everyone has their own experience and preference, but that's my personal actual hands on perspective and experience. Having said that, I flush when I can to make absolutely certain I have the best flavor possible. But, I've harvested two plants now without a flush and the taste of the buds was extremely good, and did NOT taste like chemicals, etc. (Again, you still need a good dry and cure).
I'm only throwing that out there in case that's the major deciding factor in someday trying OC+. I doubt you'd notice taste/quality difference due to lack of flush. For what it's worth.
Now there's a good discussion XL, thanks for bringing that up! I agree that the dry n cure is probably the #1 thing that affects the taste. I would be real interested to hear what others have to say about this subject, although not everyone will see this journal....I wonder if maybe we should start a thread just for this topic...( that is if there isnt one already...)
But I'd be more than happy to host that discussion right here if anyone has input!
The deciding factor as to whether or not I use the OC+ though, has more to do with the extension of flowering time, I think, than anything else(now that I know I can top dress with panty hose)....Still considering it, but I cant seem to make up my mindThanks a bunch for the feedback bro!!
OK, since I'm gonna have a bit of material (OK a LOT ) for the butter and I'd love to try some edibles. Would you mind breaking down that process a little further for the butter making impaired?
Thanks in advance my man!
Dime Bag!! (ha ha I told you variations of that name may arise from time to time, sorry bro!)
I'd be more than happy to tell you how to do it buddy, This was my first time and If you want you can look at the thread I read about it, although it was worded kinda sloppy n it felt like I was winging it the whole time...
Make sure you read my following post about being careful with this stuff when you're done reading this though bro!!
So basically, it can be done in a crock pot( which I did ) or it can be done on the stove top in a pot...I odnt like the idea of doing it on the stove because I leave it to simmer over night...
If you DO use the stove, I suggest you use a 6 qt pot or similar.
All it takes is 1 lb. unsalted butter(researched why to use unsalted over salted, my conclusion was that it is better to use unsalted, because most recipies call for unsalted, like cookies and so on...there were other reasons but just trust me its better...)
So 1 lb unsalted butter.
1 oz. whatever you want, I used bud from my last harvest, but from what I've read you can use trimmings, and what not...(obviously it'll be more potent with the bud)
I used a blender, and just dumped the stuff in, and pulsed on n off until I liked the grade...
I melted the butter(all of it) in a pot on the stove while the crock pot heated.
While the butter is melting, bring a good 2 cups of water to a boil.
This water is simply going in with the butter and buds, and will stay on the bottom as the butter will float on top of it. The water acts as a teperature buffer, prevents the butter from burning...
If you're using the crock pot, keep it on the lowest setting possible, like warm if it has it. For the stove top, low, or whatever setting allows just the mildest simmer...
Once your butter is melted completely, pour it into the heated crock, (or just leave it in your pot)
Then, pour in the boiled water
Then your groung herb.
Give it a stir, and check on it every 5-10 minutes at the beginning just to make sure it doesn't start to roll too much, you only want a very slow simmer, and from what I understand THC is in danger of being destroyed at temps above 350 or so (Feel free to chime in here if Im off, Anyone!)
Its a good idea to keep a lid on it, either the kind with a small hole to vent, or just put it on a little crooked so the pressure doesnt build, but also so your water doesnt cook off and allow your butter to burn.
I let it simmer for around 12.5 hours, but the thread I read said he only does it for 3....So far I like my method.
Once you're satisfied that your butter is now budder, take a pair of panty hose, and stretch them over a tupperware, or a coolwhip tub as I did. you want the diameter of the container to be such that when the butter cools into a decently thick slab, so that when you try to pick it up it doesnt crumble into the water from which it separated. I was able to just loosen the edges of the budder, and tip the container to drain the water.
Anyway, once you have your hose on the tub, simply pour the whole mix, slowly, through the panty hose. Once its all in the tub, unroll the hose carefully, and you should have a sock of soggy nastiness. Squeeze the crap out of it into the tub to get the remaining yummys.
I even went a step further ( although I dont feel this step really added all that much) But you can take that sock of gunk, and put it in apot of boiling water, and get every last drop of yuck out. just simmer like before, only with the lid off so the water can boil off, leaving a little more butter in the bottom, and then add that to the other butter.
Put it in the fridge, and it'll take a good 4 hours at least to harden up. Once it does, follow the directions above to get the water out....
Then comes the fun....deciding what to put it on, or in....
Hope this helps, and heres the link to the other thread. Let us know how you do bro!!
See post below!!!