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[StonedCrumpet]

Morning

I get the incling your all getting sick of me

I've been a bit suspicious of one of my ladies the last few days, and today I've made my diagnosis. I'm almost certain my budding plant has re entered veg somehow? Only real difference to the tent is changing light schedule to 20/4 a couple of weeks ago. One of the pics I've attached, showing two plants side by side - are same strain, same seeds, same supplier (Glookies Auto - Barneys)

I'm seeing new single leaves, not seen anything like this since seedling stage really.....

Be safe

 

[StonedCrumpet]

Close ups of a cola.....

 

[Bill284]

Close ups of a cola.....

No one is fed up, so don't even think about that.
I run this thread to help people.
We post cool purple pics but I trouble shoot for members here.
So you can post as many times a day with what ever questions you have.
If I remember correctly you are running autos?
Because that girl is acting like a photo that's revegging.
Throwing wonkie single leaves.
Autos can run 24/0 so that's not a light issue.
It's definitely an auto?




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Bill284

 

[StonedCrumpet]

Morning Bill,

They are autos that's right. I guess a photo could of made it through the net, though. One of the others went that way too, sadly I chopped away all the colas that were effected - leaving me with just 4 or 5 decent ones.

Should I just flush it? I'll still yield a small amount. My lights are on 20/4

 

[Old G]

Close ups of a cola.....

That’s wild looking SC, brother get a regular LED, I used a blurpee my first grow too. You can get a great lite pretty cheap. Those blurpee are hard to tell what’s going on. I’ve never seen what your plants doing, I’m sure Bill has , Bill tutored me for awhile, he still does lol , listen to him he’ll get you going

 

[Bill284]

Morning Bill,

They are autos that's right. I guess a photo could of made it through the net, though. One of the others went that way too, sadly I chopped away all the colas that were effected - leaving me with just 4 or 5 decent ones.

Should I just flush it? I'll still yield a small amount. My lights are on 20/4

My apologies if I'm slow to answer or miss a question, just remind me.
I'm just putting together a bunch of harvest and cure pics I'll post them soon.
As far as a flush goes, if you are doing a 3x the size of the pot flush with plain water, then YES.
Getting any debris out of the root zone before the final swell is never a bad idea.
Your right in the perfect window.
That's what I call a flush.
Or.
But some people refer to a flush as depriving nutrients when they need them most.
I don't recommend that !
I feed to runoff daily and seldom have issues.
So I feed right until I chop.
I think you mentioned your nutrients recommended one?
Giver!
The wonkie one, bad genetics salvage what you can.
@Herbies Seeds if you like autos, Fruit Punch is great.
Hope your having a nice Easter.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[StonedCrumpet]

It's fine bud, no complaints. You've got tk do what you've got to do....

That's exactly the flush I meant. Repeating until you get a clean run off. Just cleaning the soil so the plant uses up all the reserves of nutrients it has. It makes for better tasting and better curing bud apparently?

I'm going to go ahead and flush Miss Wonky today. She has a fair enough amount on her. Thanks for the tip on auto seed

I'm looking for quick plant to harvest turnover and easy maintainance really. Growing solely for personal use. So it has to taste good enough for me to be happy smoking it every day, you know

 

[Jon]

Morning folks

I hope everyone is dandy and the morning sunshine is beginning to glisten on those blooming colas of yours

Two weeks ago I posted about flushing and put up pics of trichs. As advised by Bill and a couple of others, here I am a fortnight later.

In my unprofessional opinion, I'd say these two are ready for flushing? I can see a few cloudy trichs and they are looking super juicy now. Bit longer? Or go for the flush?

Could probably do with a mixed review of opinions here, please. 16 eyes are better than two?

TIA as always

Have a great day growers

Be safe

Two cents and another perspective for you: if you water to 10-15% runoff every time you water, there is zero need or reason to flush, in coco or soil, ever.

 

[Jon]

No one is fed up, so don't even think about that.
I run this thread to help people.
We post cool purple pics but I trouble shoot for members here.
So you can post as many times a day with what ever questions you have.
If I remember correctly you are running autos?
Because that girl is acting like a photo that's revegging.
Throwing wonkie single leaves.
Autos can run 24/0 so that's not a light issue.
It's definitely an auto?




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

That’s my first question too. Sure is what it looks like. I know this well as I have the Mimosa I revegged. Looked 100% exactly like that. But you can’t reveg an auto, and certainly nothing like this would result from changing the light from 24/0 to 20/4. That’s exactly how I grow autos too. I’m betting it’s a photo revegging. But then the question is, why would it be flowering if it’s a photo when he had the light cycle at 24/0? So that’s an argument for it NOT being a photo. In which case it would have to be an auto behaving strangely. I’ve never seen anything like this with an auto. Pretty crazy.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

That’s my first question too. Sure is what it looks like. I know this well as I have the Mimosa I revegged. Looked 100% exactly like that. But you can’t reveg an auto, and certainly nothing like this would result from changing the light from 24/0 to 20/4. That’s exactly how I grow autos too. I’m betting it’s a photo revegging. But then the question is, why would it be flowering if it’s a photo when he had the light cycle at 24/0? So that’s an argument for it NOT being a photo. In which case it would have to be an auto behaving strangely. I’ve never seen anything like this with an auto. Pretty crazy.

Given the amount of photo genetics in the current autos I'm wondering if it is possible to reveg them now?
Especially with a jump from 12/12 to 20/4.

 

[StonedCrumpet]

That’s my first question too. Sure is what it looks like. I know this well as I have the Mimosa I revegged. Looked 100% exactly like that. But you can’t reveg an auto, and certainly nothing like this would result from changing the light from 24/0 to 20/4. That’s exactly how I grow autos too. I’m betting it’s a photo revegging. But then the question is, why would it be flowering if it’s a photo when he had the light cycle at 24/0? So that’s an argument for it NOT being a photo. In which case it would have to be an auto behaving strangely. I’ve never seen anything like this with an auto. Pretty crazy.

I had light cycle @ 12/12 prior to changing to 20/4

Be safe

 

[StonedCrumpet]

I had light cycle @ 12/12 prior to changing to 20/4

Be safe

This is a first grow and a huge learning curve for me. I wasn't aware that autos can run under any light schedule. I think I took a bit of information in early on about being able to manipulate plants with light schedule etc I think I've over educated myself with so much different info and got it all confused

 

[Jon]

Given the amount of photo genetics in the current autos I'm wondering if it is possible to reveg them now?
Especially with a jump from 12/12 to 20/4.

Oh, I got that wrong I guess. He went 12/12 to 20/4? Okay. Sorry. To your question: that’s a really good question. I would say there’s a body of evidence to the contrary. One example, I have grown autos at 12/12, 24/0, 20/4, 18/6, and also all those with a comedown a little when flowering begins (24/0 to 20/4 kind of thing). I’ve bashed them around with three or four different light sources and environmental conditions in the same grow. I’ve done everything I could possibly do to hermie an auto. That CAN be done, I can say from experience. But revegging one? Hmm…if that was possible it would seem a lot of auto truths go out the window and the auto seed sellers are gonna have to branch out, lol. I mean, if you can reveg an auto, then light cycle DOES matter. It also raises another question: is it now possible to take an auto cutting and root it and produce the same auto you took it from? My understanding is that doing that is a waste of time. Never tried it. But the point is just that if one thing then possibly another or more.

If you check the genetic makeup of an auto, the percentage of Ruderalis is usually in the 10-20% range. The other 90-80% is photo genes. I’ve often wondered about this. What if the Ruderalis was only 5%? Or 30%? I’d love to know how this works. But as you note about the advances in genetics, I wonder if the percentage of Ruderalis in the particular auto might be a factor in whether or not you could reveg?

It’s super interesting for sure.

 

[Bill284]

This is a first grow and a huge learning curve for me. I wasn't aware that autos can run under any light schedule. I think I took a bit of information in early on about being able to manipulate plants with light schedule etc I think I've over educated myself with so much different info and got it all confused

Keep it simple at first.
Log everything, literally everything.
Only make one change at a time and log the effects.
Your doing well.

 

[Jon]

Oh, I got that wrong I guess. He went 12/12 to 20/4? Okay. Sorry. To your question: that’s a really good question. I would say there’s a body of evidence to the contrary. One example, I have grown autos at 12/12, 24/0, 20/4, 18/6, and also all those with a comedown a little when flowering begins (24/0 to 20/4 kind of thing). I’ve bashed them around with three or four different light sources and environmental conditions in the same grow. I’ve done everything I could possibly do to hermie an auto. That CAN be done, I can say from experience. But revegging one? Hmm…if that was possible it would seem a lot of auto truths go out the window and the auto seed sellers are gonna have to branch out, lol. I mean, if you can reveg an auto, then light cycle DOES matter. It also raises another question: is it now possible to take an auto cutting and root it and produce the same auto you took it from? My understanding is that doing that is a waste of time. Never tried it. But the point is just that if one thing then possibly another or more.

If you check the genetic makeup of an auto, the percentage of Ruderalis is usually in the 10-20% range. The other 90-80% is photo genes. I’ve often wondered about this. What if the Ruderalis was only 5%? Or 30%? I’d love to know how this works. But as you note about the advances in genetics, I wonder if the percentage of Ruderalis in the particular auto might be a factor in whether or not you could reveg?

It’s super interesting for sure.

Oh yeah, worthy of note here is that @Bill284 is my Sensei for a reason. This is how one opens up a journal. My friend has learned to take all the ego out of the equation and he does this 100x more to help people than to satisfy his ego. This is a rare quality and one Bill has in spades. It’s one reason I dig him so much. I’ve learned a lot about non-growing stuff from him on top of everything I know about growing in coco. Thanks for letting us play in your journal Bill!

 

[Jon]

I had light cycle @ 12/12 prior to changing to 20/4

Be safe

Yup, sorry. My bad. I already saw and attempted to say sorry I’m my post on Bills post. Didn’t mean to misrepresent your situation.

 

[Bill284]

Oh, I got that wrong I guess. He went 12/12 to 20/4? Okay. Sorry. To your question: that’s a really good question. I would say there’s a body of evidence to the contrary. One example, I have grown autos at 12/12, 24/0, 20/4, 18/6, and also all those with a comedown a little when flowering begins (24/0 to 20/4 kind of thing). I’ve bashed them around with three or four different light sources and environmental conditions in the same grow. I’ve done everything I could possibly do to hermie an auto. That CAN be done, I can say from experience. But revegging one? Hmm…if that was possible it would seem a lot of auto truths go out the window and the auto seed sellers are gonna have to branch out, lol. I mean, if you can reveg an auto, then light cycle DOES matter. It also raises another question: is it now possible to take an auto cutting and root it and produce the same auto you took it from? My understanding is that doing that is a waste of time. Never tried it. But the point is just that if one thing then possibly another or more.

If you check the genetic makeup of an auto, the percentage of Ruderalis is usually in the 10-20% range. The other 90-80% is photo genes. I’ve often wondered about this. What if the Ruderalis was only 5%? Or 30%? I’d love to know how this works. But as you note about the advances in genetics, I wonder if the percentage of Ruderalis in the particular auto might be a factor in whether or not you could reveg?

It’s super interesting for sure.

Hold onto your hat @Jon @Rexer did it this winter.
Cloned and made seeds from his auto.
Not sure on all details he only explained it 6 times.
We can get an update from shortly, he said he would be back from hibernation in the spring.
2-3 months tops, hehe




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Bill284

 

[Jon]

Hey @StonedCrumpet - this:

This is a first grow and a huge learning curve for me. I wasn't aware that autos can run under any light schedule. I think I took a bit of information in early on about being able to manipulate plants with light schedule etc I think I've over educated myself with so much different info and got it all confused

Is EXACTLY what happened to me with all the auto information before I did autos the first time. It’s crazy how much garbage is out there. I started in 3s because I read on a supposedly reputable source that more than a 3 is a waste cuz the roots would never fill it in time. What silliness. Now I grow autos in 7s and 10s and often get double digit ounces. It’s a big reason I am in the forum. The people here are an infinitely better source of info than the stupid internet. Lmao!

 

[Jon]

Hold onto your hat @Jon @Rexer did it this winter.
Cloned and made seeds from his auto.
Not sure on all details he only explained it 6 times.
We can get an update from shortly, he said he would be back from hibernation in the spring.
2-3 months tops, hehe




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Bill284

No I know - it can and has been done. I saw Rexers stuff too and yes, only 6x explaining and we’re supposed to remember? Lol

 

[StonedCrumpet]

My apologies if I'm slow to answer or miss a question, just remind me.
I'm just putting together a bunch of harvest and cure pics I'll post them soon.
As far as a flush goes, if you are doing a 3x the size of the pot flush with plain water, then YES.
Getting any debris out of the root zone before the final swell is never a bad idea.
Your right in the perfect window.
That's what I call a flush.
Or.
But some people refer to a flush as depriving nutrients when they need them most.
I don't recommend that !
I feed to runoff daily and seldom have issues.
So I feed right until I chop.
I think you mentioned your nutrients recommended one?
Giver!
The wonkie one, bad genetics salvage what you can.
@Herbies Seeds if you like autos, Fruit Punch is great.
Hope your having a nice Easter.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

Would you go straight for the chop, Bill. Salvage what I can?

In that case, I guess I'll take you up on your chopping and curing processes please wise friend

Be safe