I want to top these in the next 7 to 10 days but feel they are too stumpy as of now. Saw those leaves and got worried strate away lol probs overthinking stuff.
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Ok brilliant.
But I get confused easily so it looks like you have a dozen plants.
Going by the first pic she is hungry over watered and has the start of a iron deficiency at least, possibly more.
Let her dry right out dry dry dry in between watering.
And your mixing your nutrients full strength now? Ph 6.3?
The other two aren't bad but they are slightly over watered aswell.
If you can for your next run or your uppot use air pots or bags.
Way better for roots.
So dry
drydryok.Stay safe
Bill
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They should be read if you follow my instructions.
Go 3 feed/water cycles and see if they are sitting up pretty and growing well.
Don't top a saggy girl.
Stay safe
Bill
Ok brilliant.
But I get confused easily so it looks like you have a dozen plants.
Going by the first pic she is hungry over watered and has the start of a iron deficiency at least, possibly more.
Let her dry right out dry dry dry in between watering.
And your mixing your nutrients full strength now? Ph 6.3?
The other two aren't bad but they are slightly over watered aswell.
If you can for your next run or your uppot use air pots or bags.
Way better for roots.
So dry
Stay safe
Billok
Ok brilliant.
But I get confused easily so it looks like you have a dozen plants.
Going by the first pic she is hungry over watered and has the start of a iron deficiency at least, possibly more.
Let her dry right out dry dry dry in between watering.
And your mixing your nutrients full strength now? Ph 6.3?
The other two aren't bad but they are slightly over watered aswell.
If you can for your next run or your uppot use air pots or bags.
Way better for roots.
So dry
Stay safe
Lol only 3 m8 and to me the pots do feel really light after a couple of days and the soil cracking away from the edge seems dry. On the last feed/water i gave the same amount 2ml to 5 liter of water and gave a total of 300ml so like 100ml each with the spray bottle as we discussed beforehand so theyve only had 2 feeds in there life. I will try that in a couple of days then. The 2 bigger ones haven't had anything for 48 hours and the small 1 with twisted leaves i gave a spray earlier as I thought it was lighter than the others and was cracking at the sides again. Would be a good idea to up pot them atm the way they are?Ok brilliant.
But I get confused easily so it looks like you have a dozen plants.
Going by the first pic she is hungry over watered and has the start of a iron deficiency at least, possibly more.
Let her dry right out dry dry dry in between watering.
And your mixing your nutrients full strength now? Ph 6.3?
The other two aren't bad but they are slightly over watered aswell.
If you can for your next run or your uppot use air pots or bags.
Way better for roots.
So dry
Stay safe
Bill
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I'd wait till they are sitting up and growing well.
Get that pot full of roots first.
Stay safe
Bill
Wise words m8 I just have a voice in back of my mind sometimes saying if they dry out they die 
. So if I leave them they should pop back up? Then ill go with the feed/water next 3 rounds. Thanks again bill true scholar 
. So if I leave them they should pop back up? Then ill go with the feed/water next 3 rounds. Thanks again bill true scholar 
Savvage61
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well Bill I have a confession I went over My plant and found 3 bad leaves on the entire plant a little spot hjere and dis color there 684 Lush green cannabis leaves. and I came to the conclusion that I do Not need to freak out everytime I see a distressed leaf looking at house plants and outside plants I don't think it is uncommon to find a bad leaf on any plant I thin k I just needf to keep an eye on them and at the first sign of a real problem Flush. Thjey are due for their second flush on the FF schedule for thier next watering I will re access . so DEo I sounmd cocky or on track lol have a good weekend my friend 
Learning how to not freak over every little thing is part of the learning curve for all of us I think. I know I went through the same thing. And just as you have @Savvage61, I reached a point where I realized I didn’t have to freak so much. Well done. Climb that curve man!well Bill I have a confession I went over My plant and found 3 bad leaves on the entire plant a little spot hjere and dis color there 684 Lush green cannabis leaves. and I came to the conclusion that I do Not need to freak out everytime I see a distressed leaf looking at house plants and outside plants I don't think it is uncommon to find a bad leaf on any plant I thin k I just needf to keep an eye on them and at the first sign of a real problem Flush. Thjey are due for their second flush on the FF schedule for thier next watering I will re access . so DEo I sounmd cocky or on track lol have a good weekend my friend
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If you remove a leaf showing a deficiency you cause a couple problems.well Bill I have a confession I went over My plant and found 3 bad leaves on the entire plant a little spot hjere and dis color there 684 Lush green cannabis leaves. and I came to the conclusion that I do Not need to freak out everytime I see a distressed leaf looking at house plants and outside plants I don't think it is uncommon to find a bad leaf on any plant I thin k I just needf to keep an eye on them and at the first sign of a real problem Flush. Thjey are due for their second flush on the FF schedule for thier next watering I will re access . so DEo I sounmd cocky or on track lol have a good weekend my friend
First the nutrients she was taking from that leaf are gone now.
What will she do ?
Take nutrients from the next leaf.
Causing the issue to travel.
Get it ?
Then the energy she was getting from the light shinning on her is gone.
So no energy.
And finally it's a notification from her.
If you remove it she can't show you how she is doing.
Is the issue getting better or worse well I don't know I took the leaf off.
So let them fall off naturally or wait until Harvest.
That's my methodology so to speak.
Hope your having a good one.
I'm sitting here with the window open for the first time this year.
Leaving it open all night I mean.
Crickets and birds beautiful.
Talk soon.
Oh yeah greenhouse pics tonight.
Stay safe
Bill
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Good morning Jon.
Hope your having a nice weekend my friend.
Zen out you old Dead Head, hehe.Hope you don't mind.
Yes though don't panic it's all fixable.
Howie is here beside me on the couch.
It's nice having a companion again.
How is Molly , she is so adorable.
Does she like other dogs.
Howie tries to play with the little poodle across from us.
She is old and grumpy though.
Barks at him.
But yes.
Freaking out doesn't help anyone.
Patience will go a long way.
I'll post some greenhouse pics tonight so you can see it in the morning.
Talk soon.
Stay safe
Bill
Awful seeing em like this aint it. Im rusty Been out of the game too long
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Hey took me a minute, sorry.
Don't let the leaves lay on the soil.
It will cause necrosis in that leaf.
The leaves are fluff and fat, with a slight curl, all signs of chronic over watering.
Reduced color and slow growth also signs of over watering.
Let the air in there before you water again.
Stay safe
Bill
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Leaves feel dry and I Think im guna raise the light couple inches later on like you said see if they like it. Thanks again bill
Is it finished?!!! Can’t wait for the pics!If you remove a leaf showing a deficiency you cause a couple problems.
First the nutrients she was taking from that leaf are gone now.
What will she do ?
Take nutrients from the next leaf.
Causing the issue to travel.
Get it ?
Then the energy she was getting from the light shinning on her is gone.
So no energy.
And finally it's a notification from her.
If you remove it she can't show you how she is doing.
Is the issue getting better or worse well I don't know I took the leaf off.
So let them fall off naturally or wait until Harvest.
That's my methodology so to speak.
Hope your having a good one.
I'm sitting here with the window open for the first time this year.
Leaving it open all night I mean.
Crickets and birds beautiful.
Talk soon.
Oh yeah greenhouse pics tonight.
Stay safe
Bill
Savvage61
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Bill you are a wise man I want to show you my 2 main plants I have 2 seedlings 2 weeks old they are next months problem as always your recommendation is welcome (ok begged for) the first I a gelato auto that had a Cal/mag issue and plucked away it had gotten through the entire plant I did a real flush and left the leaves alone the buds seem to be doing great other that it looks bad I did start adding cal-mag week 4 the bad leaves you see now have been damaged ever since new growth week 7 for both
this is my gorilla glue (below) no issues at all till this week this plant has not been flushed 3x only SH but was just doing awesome here are the trouble spots I have a couplequestion after you look at them
I have been following the Fox Farm schedule feeding every other watering Why am I getting defencices ? here is their menu
Big bloom
Grow Big
tiger bloom
open sesame next feeding beastly buds for 3 feeding after that cha-ching till Harvest
purpinator & cal/mag
I have in my journal a breakdown of what is in each one. it doesn't seem to have a lockout I just fed them last night should I watch them and if it doesn't improve by Sunday do a 3x flush or should I just flush 3x anyway?
I want pristine plants, so when I first notice my cal-mag def on the gelato I pulled leaves like a mad man is that what caused it to spread throughout the plant ? are autos more prone to issues? than photos
if this was you what would you do?
thx bud I wanted to leave you in peace and quiet this weekend I apologize they need to open a plant urgent med
Thank you My friend
**yellowing could be nitrogen do to the later weeks of flower which is mother natures way right? lol
this is my gorilla glue (below) no issues at all till this week this plant has not been flushed 3x only SH but was just doing awesome here are the trouble spots I have a couplequestion after you look at them
I have been following the Fox Farm schedule feeding every other watering Why am I getting defencices ? here is their menu
Big bloom
Grow Big
tiger bloom
open sesame next feeding beastly buds for 3 feeding after that cha-ching till Harvest
purpinator & cal/mag
I have in my journal a breakdown of what is in each one. it doesn't seem to have a lockout I just fed them last night should I watch them and if it doesn't improve by Sunday do a 3x flush or should I just flush 3x anyway?
I want pristine plants, so when I first notice my cal-mag def on the gelato I pulled leaves like a mad man is that what caused it to spread throughout the plant ? are autos more prone to issues? than photos
if this was you what would you do?
thx bud I wanted to leave you in peace and quiet this weekend I apologize they need to open a plant urgent med
Thank you My friend
**yellowing could be nitrogen do to the later weeks of flower which is mother natures way right? lol
Next purchase for the up pot for when the ladies are feeling better 
Them buds look nice good job man wat size pots do you have?Bill you are a wise man I want to show you my 2 main plants I have 2 seedlings 2 weeks old they are next months problem as always your recommendation is welcome (ok begged for) the first I a gelato auto that had a Cal/mag issue and plucked away it had gotten through the entire plant I did a real flush and left the leaves alone the buds seem to be doing great other that it looks bad I did start adding cal-mag week 4 the bad leaves you see now have been damaged ever since new growth week 7 for both
this is my gorilla glue (below) no issues at all till this week this plant has not been flushed 3x only SH but was just doing awesome here are the trouble spots I have a couplequestion after you look at them
I have been following the Fox Farm schedule feeding every other watering Why am I getting defencices ? here is their menu
Big bloom
Grow Big
tiger bloom
open sesame next feeding beastly buds for 3 feeding after that cha-ching till Harvest
purpinator & cal/mag
I have in my journal a breakdown of what is in each one. it doesn't seem to have a lockout I just fed them last night should I watch them and if it doesn't improve by Sunday do a 3x flush or should I just flush 3x anyway?
I want pristine plants, so when I first notice my cal-mag def on the gelato I pulled leaves like a mad man is that what caused it to spread throughout the plant ? are autos more prone to issues? than photos
if this was you what would you do?
thx bud I wanted to leave you in peace and quiet this weekend I apologize they need to open a plant urgent med
Thank you My friend
**yellowing could be nitrogen do to the later weeks of flower which is mother natures way right? lol
Hi Savvage!Bill you are a wise man I want to show you my 2 main plants I have 2 seedlings 2 weeks old they are next months problem as always your recommendation is welcome (ok begged for) the first I a gelato auto that had a Cal/mag issue and plucked away it had gotten through the entire plant I did a real flush and left the leaves alone the buds seem to be doing great other that it looks bad I did start adding cal-mag week 4 the bad leaves you see now have been damaged ever since new growth week 7 for both
this is my gorilla glue (below) no issues at all till this week this plant has not been flushed 3x only SH but was just doing awesome here are the trouble spots I have a couplequestion after you look at them
I have been following the Fox Farm schedule feeding every other watering Why am I getting defencices ? here is their menu
Big bloom
Grow Big
tiger bloom
open sesame next feeding beastly buds for 3 feeding after that cha-ching till Harvest
purpinator & cal/mag
I have in my journal a breakdown of what is in each one. it doesn't seem to have a lockout I just fed them last night should I watch them and if it doesn't improve by Sunday do a 3x flush or should I just flush 3x anyway?
I want pristine plants, so when I first notice my cal-mag def on the gelato I pulled leaves like a mad man is that what caused it to spread throughout the plant ? are autos more prone to issues? than photos
if this was you what would you do?
thx bud I wanted to leave you in peace and quiet this weekend I apologize they need to open a plant urgent med
Thank you My friend
**yellowing could be nitrogen do to the later weeks of flower which is mother natures way right? lol
Thought I'll post this as I'm currently also growing Gorilla Glue autos, from FastBuds and Barney's Farm and I'm struggling with same kind of issues. Exactly same tbh.
Firstly, yes indeed it is a Calcium and Magnesium shortage symptoms. Just like mine.
And apparently it has something to do with Phosphorus. And I've been doing alot research on Gorilla Glue and the parent strains.
Did you know GG#4 was originally accidentally bred from a hermie plant? Gorilla Glue tends to be that strain which likes heavy feed, but the strain seem to be a very sensitive to P. That would explain if "toxic" amounts of P may causes plant to start producing seeds. And Phosphorus builds up very easily in medium causing massive lockouts (especially Calcium, Potassium & Magnesium, and other trace cations)
I've tried CalMag to just barely hit 70ppm Ca and 25ppm Mg. Worked my way up to and over the max recommended dose of CalMag. No improvement.
However what I've noticed if Phosphorus is kept at minimum (aka very small dose of Bloom ferts) the water and nutrient uptake gets better. And hard to say yet if the symptoms has fully stopped spreading. Definitely slowed down.
If you want to see my plants they can be found from sig link "Hempy journal" and you can compare mine to yours.
PS. May I guess the symptoms started about two-three weeks after the plant started to stretch/shifted into bloom?
PSS. You really want to get the good ratios for them because if theyre lacking Ca for long time that causes blossom end rot on flowering cannabis.
Edit: are you using several different Bloom nutrients + Purpinator which also has 3-4% P(?)
Ugh I bet your Phosphorus ppm is skyrocketing and accumulating in your medium.
TLDR; my #1 guess with the GG's is Phosphorus causing the lockouts and deficiences.
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