PP Bagseed Outdoor Grow Journal - 2018

Awesome, well thats my minimum requirement, 20grams per plant and il be happy.

And everything went smoothly on your first flower and first harvest? You just followed the advice and info that's on this site?

Is there a link you can refer me to for harvesting in that manner? Sounds more manageable doing small amounts at a time.
 
Looking at today's pics, il be able to tell sex soon isn't it? The bigger healthy plants getting some good growth.
 
you will be able to tell soon... and 20gms per plant should be easy enough. Indoors I average around 120gm per plant; outdoors you should be able to beat me by a lot.
would it be possible for me add some light to it outside if it's around 11 or 12 hours of darkness
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yes, it is possible, but you need a good amount of light to pull this off, something way brighter than the moon.

One thing you have to learn from growing outdoors is patience :D They'll flower when they're ready & don't try to rush things.
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Great advice Jimmy!
 
Wow 120g a plant?! How big are those pants and how many times did top or FIM? And how big pots?

OK so that sounds really promising. Emilya, what did you make of the recent pics, things turning for the better?

I was thinking of having a floodlight on them for 30mins in the evening and then another 30 mins or so later, will that work?
 
Potplant said:
Awesome, well thats my minimum requirement, 20grams per plant and il be happy.

And everything went smoothly on your first flower and first harvest? You just followed the advice and info that's on this site?

Is there a link you can refer me to for harvesting in that manner? Sounds more manageable doing small amounts at a time.
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I won't say everything went smoothly, I had bud worms & aphids. Picking apart buds, lady bugs & the weather helped.

Most grows on this site are indoors, at least 90% grow indoors. What works for an indoor grow might not work for outdoors & there's a different set of problems for each & advantages for each. That's why I've been following as many outdoor grow diaries as I could find.

I actually went with the recommendations of another grower close by for the nutrients & I found the right soil by Google. Also found a hydroponics store 5 mins away that has everything I could need :) I guess I was lucky

Harvesting, drying & curing is an art on it's own. I went for cloudy trichomes because I don't like couch lock. I simply checked each bud & when when it was where I wanted it, i snipped the branch & hung it up in a dark dry place. But you're nowhere near that point yet. Lol. You've got enough time to go through the posts on drying & curing here.
 
Ok cool, so by then I should get a magnifying glass? To see the colour of the trichomes.

Yeah I can't wait to get to that stage so I can make sure I read up on here on what to do before I do anything!
 
Potplant said:
Wow 120g a plant?! How big are those pants and how many times did top or FIM? And how big pots?

OK so that sounds really promising. Emilya, what did you make of the recent pics, things turning for the better?

I was thinking of having a floodlight on them for 30mins in the evening and then another 30 mins or so later, will that work?
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4 oz per plant is my average under 1200w of light, but I have seen some plants go to 150 gms or more. I move to flower when my plants are 2' tall and they end up becoming around 4' tall. I top multiple times shooting for a total of 12-18 buds at the top of the plant. I grow in a 4x4 tent so my space is limited, so i typically grow 6 plants at a time in 7 gallon smartpots. My soil at the moment has been recycled at least 10-15 times, and is still just as active as it was when I first built it several years ago.

I do see improvement in your plants, but you still have a ways to go before I would even bet on them all surviving. So many things went wrong this time and you will be lucky to get 20 gms out of some of them... but this first grow is when you needed to learn, and figure out what not to do. Your next grow is going to go much better.

Regarding the floodlight... remember the inverse square rule... the further your light is away from the plants the more ineffective it will be. It is going to take a good amount of light to fool the plants... it can be done... but it might take more than a single floodlight. Don't try to be fancy with the light... just extend the day a bit at either or both ends.
 
Wow that's impressive for 4x4 tent! Now that's the soil I want, super soil. In time I will get there, for now I need to spend some cash to have a better yield.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but nevertheless il be happy if they there's at least 4 females and they make it to the harvest part.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, just to add light like before sundown just to make it less than 12hours of darkness.
 
These are pics I took now, 24 hours later:

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thanks to the spraying I think a few of them are going to make it but it still isn't looking real good. Get that calmag in there as soon as you can... when will it be ready?
 
Yeah holding thumbs!

I made it on the 12th,so i guess they will be only ready begining of Feb. Should I be using the magnesium foliar spray? I stopped that a few days ago and just spraying them with neutral water just to mist them and the area around for the humidity.
 
forget misting them for humidity.... you could be burning them with the magnifying glasses of water droplets if you are doing that in full sun. Ask yourself who comes around to mist plants growing in the wild. They don't need or want this. But yes, by all means... those that are crinkling up and dying are not doing it because they are dry... they are doing it because they are sucking the much needed nutrient out of those leaves.
Spray with the epsom salts every day for a while, at sunset.
 
Yeah I was worried about that so I did it when the plants were in the shade. Just a few times. Ok perfect, I'm gonna make a new batch now. Then will go and spray them in a few minutes.
 
Ok so this was the longest time I didn't water my plants, and was like 2 days and I could feel the difference between am empty pot and a full pot. The sick plant was the heaviest because yday I noticed that the soil still wasn't draining adequately. So I wrote her off and opened up the soil to make it more breathable and she has some nice roots, I think new ones but they couldnt go all the way down so I took out as much muck as I could and out the best soil I could find as I didn't get the good soil yet. Made it more breathable but I don't feel or believe it's ideal. However I have to make do for now. Anyway, after I saw the pots were almost dry for most of them especially number 1( I now numbered the pots so it's easier for me to remember lol) and I could see a few hours later that she started drooping, I got so excited, I finally get what they mean when they say you will notice the droop and know it's time to water. The others weren't as dry so watered her properly and the others just got enough for a little run off.

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There you go... now you are getting it. Look how happy they are with this treatment, reaching up to the sun!
 
Yes man, I'm so chuffed. I got a good feeling about plant 1 and 2. They getting a some nice growth. As you can see i topped a few and the others I really FIMmed but by mistake lol. Was wondering if those "squashed" tips will grow and they are, just look odd lol.

And it was the healthiest plant that drank the most, so as you said, the plants drink it doesn't just go through or evaporate.
 
I went back to check the plants now and 4 of them where drooping a bit, is it cos they need water or sleeping?? I did feel that I didn't water them adequately cos I gave them a collective amount of about 3 liters and they in 7 little pots so I didn't want to over do it. So I gave them another 3 or 4 litter but only the ones with drooping leaves. I wanted to know, the runoff water from each plant rolls downhill and it touches the other pots as they all next to each other in a line, is this bad? After I watered them and waited a while I went back and rinsed the runoff water away with normal tap water. The next time I water them, do I try and water them one where else or put a container underneath so the run off water doesn't go near the other pots?

I also loosened the top soil of all the pots yday as it looked too compact so I loosened it and made sure I didn't touch roots and I didn't go near to the stem. After that I noticed that the drainage is way better. Is that something that I shouldn't do in future?
 
plants do droop as they sleep... and for you to go in after seeing that giving them extra water, knowing what you now know about the importance of letting them dry all the way to the bottom, you should have known better. If you had picked up the container and felt water weight, you should have known not to make human assumptions about a slight droop. You really got to stop messing with these plants every day, loosening soil and making assumptions about them. It is possible to kill them with kindness. These are weeds... they respond to adversity, not kindness. You still have not grasped that fact. How are you going to get them to grow effective roots when you keep treating them like they need to be coddled? As far as your last question, no, you should not go in and mess with the soil as they are growing. You should however have a soil that is able to drain easily... as we discussed before, with about 20% perlite in it. Roots Organic 101... the best soil made for cannabis IMHO. Second best, Fox Farms Ocean Forest. The lack of professionally made soil... that is the biggest problem here... that and magnesium and an over enthusiastic gardener who cant seem to let them dry out.

a last thought. If you had effective roots in those containers, your plants would be thriving at this point and you would be hard pressed to keep them watered. Your complaints to us would be that they dry out too often, and that every night, sometimes twice a day you were forced to water them because they would start to wilt. The hot african sun would allow those plants to suck those containers dry in record time, and we would be advising you to get more soil under them, to increase your buffer time between waterings. You do not yet have this problem. You keep drowning your roots, forcing them to atrophy.

And... (i know, another last thought) those bugs you are dealing with in the roots.... they love all that water and never drying out. If you could actually dry out the middle and bottom of those containers where they are living, you could kill them. You got to be cruel to be kind when it comes to a weed.
 
its not so much how much water you give them at a time... its how often you do it that makes the most difference. Most people do not overwater by giving too much quantity of water, they do it by watering too often.
 
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