Powdery mildew?
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Can't see any signs of Powdery Mildew.
But it does look like Spider Mites. Best to investigate. If the spots continue to increase then start a management program to keep them under control.
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seaofgreen18
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The tiny spots on the leaves 
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Ok thanks for info first timer so still learning I picked up lost coast plant therapy and have done a spray. I did notice a few bugs undersides of leaves but not to many let’s see how it goes
As seaofgreen18 mentions, all those tiny, tiny dots near the end of the fingers on the leaves. Most of the time the Spider Mites will be so small they cannot be seen unless a microscope is used. Usually the first time some growers realize they have a mite problem is when they notice the webbing. At that point, if they are on the plant long enough some of them will grow large enough to be seen when they are crawling on one of the webs they build.
Spider Mites will look similar to those if they have grown large enough. I have the feeling that what you found were on the underside of the leaves eating the mites which are a lot smaller. Followed one lead after another and am now thinking that those might be "Predator Mites" which have the same body shape.
The best spray routine is to go over the entire plant spraying both the underside and the top of every leaf from the top of the plant to the bottom. Follow the most rigid spray schedule that Lost Coast Plant Therapy recommends. You will know that you are getting rid of them when new leaves do not show the small spots for at least two weeks.
Spider Mites can be mature enough to start laying eggs within 5 to 6 days after they hatch. That gives an idea of how fast they can infest a plant. And those eggs that they lay can start hatching in 3 days. I have a perpetual grow going since 2017 and have been battling them like they were the "bugs" in Paul Verhoeven's version of the movie "Starship Troopers" and in my case neither side is winning the war.
As seaofgreen18 mentions, all those tiny, tiny dots near the end of the fingers on the leaves. Most of the time the Spider Mites will be so small they cannot be seen unless a microscope is used. Usually the first time some growers realize they have a mite problem is when they notice the webbing. At that point, if they are on the plant long enough some of them will grow large enough to be seen when they are crawling on one of the webs they build.
Spider Mites will look similar to those if they have grown large enough. I have the feeling that what you found were on the underside of the leaves eating the mites which are a lot smaller. Followed one lead after another and am now thinking that those might be "Predator Mites" which have the same body shape.
The best spray routine is to go over the entire plant spraying both the underside and the top of every leaf from the top of the plant to the bottom. Follow the most rigid spray schedule that Lost Coast Plant Therapy recommends. You will know that you are getting rid of them when new leaves do not show the small spots for at least two weeks.
Spider Mites can be mature enough to start laying eggs within 5 to 6 days after they hatch. That gives an idea of how fast they can infest a plant. And those eggs that they lay can start hatching in 3 days. I have a perpetual grow going since 2017 and have been battling them like they were the "bugs" in Paul Verhoeven's version of the movie "Starship Troopers" and in my case neither side is winning the war
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second @SmokingWings observation. the mites you see with the naked eye are predatory. they eat the ones you can't see. the ones you don't see cause the damage. normally there is enough predation outdoor that you won't need much to intervene. however, if you have a bad infestation or the plant is isolated, you may need to take action.
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Oh ok
I didn’t know this thanks. How often should/could I spray lost coast if needed ? I mixed 30 ml for a gallon for my sprayer. Hope thats adequate enough- Thread starter
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you are semi isolated on the balcony and could probably benefit from neem and other treatments as a result.
As everyone above has said. I'd also get them into bigger pots soon. Happier plants are less susceptible to pests, or at least attract the beneficial types
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Plus there are no other plants of any kind real close by to attract the predator insects.
Many growers would say to not do it now that they are in flower. But, transplanting into larger containers before flowering starts is something to think about for the next time.
It is not the number of inches that is important (except maybe to your courtesan if one is involved.)
It is the actual volume of soil in the pots that is important. Those look like the typical pots used for summer flowers since they have a narrow base and a sharp taper to the top as opposed to commercial pots for use by landscapers and commercial growers.
I have a couple of buckets with marks on them to indicate a gallon, gallon and a half, and two gallons and so on. I will use those to measure the soil going into a pot and put a tag somewhere to remind me of how much soil was used.
Cannot rely on what the maker puts on the bottom of pots. They are often what seems to be their code for size but not for actual volume. And now I am coming across pots similar looking to yours that are being marked as "patio pots" and also do not have an actual volume that matches what is on the bottom.
pretty standard size is 5 gallon. those aren't bad. smaller pots can trigger an auto early and stunt it but those are a fair size already.
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Not root bound yet I don’t see anything coming out bottom either I figure it will do this time around. There in preflower I don’t want to transplant now
If your spraying for bugs and talking Predator Mites the two doesn't mix .you can do one or the other ..
What are using to get rid of the insects.
Have you gotten rid of every bug on your plants ?
Spider mites if out of control will flat destroy crop .
Its war and the insects came from someplace.
Once you go into flowering, you are now limited to only a few products that can be sprayed on the plant that the toxins do not show up in the bud/flower.
What are using to get rid of the insects.
Have you gotten rid of every bug on your plants ?
Spider mites if out of control will flat destroy crop .
Its war and the insects came from someplace.
Once you go into flowering, you are now limited to only a few products that can be sprayed on the plant that the toxins do not show up in the bud/flower.
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