OttawaGreen
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Nice job!
That mataro looks cool.
Nice job!
That mataro looks cool.
Pigeons420 Flies the Coop & Goes Perpetual in 2015
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Thank you G! Nice to see you poppin in!
Thank you G! Nice to see you poppin in!
Bearswhowalk
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
looking good
looking good
re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Sorry Pigeons, I just found this. Let me get the post for you.
Originally posted by donpaul.p
"Hi all,
some info on the reveg.
you need to harvest the plant and leave a couple of buds on the plant, only needs to be small popcorn buds, i have also found that putting the plant back under 12-12 until its go over its shock keeps it alive as i noticed some growers kept having plants die, then after 7 days of 12-12 you need to flip it back to veg then keep it in veg until you flip it back to flower,
this is usually what happens
after harvest you can put it back under 18-6 or 24-0
week 1 of veg schedule you will see no difference, the plant and buds will look the same
week 2 of veg schedule you will see some weird single bladed leaves that look nothing like mj, some are curly and very strange looking
week 3 onwards normal veg leaves start to appear and the plant is now back in veg, the plant is now monster cropped and grows like crazy and you end up with a huge bush,
how ever revegging a plant with no buds on it after harvest is still possible but you dont end up with a monster cropped plant you end up with a regular plant, for the massive growth and crazy growth you need to reveg a couple of bud sites, then you end up with a huge bush and yields will be easily double what you harvested first time round if you harvest at around the same size,
now i have experimented with revegges and theirs some pics in my journal that i posted a couple of weeks ago,
i tried to reveg a plant after harvest and all i left on the plant was 1 medium sized fan leaf, no buds or side shoots at all on the plant it was just 1 leaf, pics in my journal, this plant reveg with no problems and im currently growing it now, after harvest all it was was a stem with a fan leaf coming off it, no other growth could be seen and it reveg with no problems,
reveg experiment 2 was a complete harvest with no fan leaves on it but you could see very tiny green growth at the nodes, again this reveg with no problems,
reveg expermint 3, this again was just the main stem and near the top of the stem i left a tiny bud, no fan leaves, no side branches or anything else, this again reveg with no problems and its currently growing, only downside is i have a stem of 1.ft with nothing at all on it and at the top it has a side shoot with about 15 branches coming off it,
so its possible to reveg anything within reason,
after harvest i go strait back to veg schedule but i noticed a few growers having problems with plants dying so i tried something different, i harvested the plant and left a couple of small buds on it and instead of stressing it out strait away by going back to veg i put it back under 12-12 for about 7 to 10 days while my other plant finished then it got flipped to veg, this seemed to allow it time to recover after harvest.
now my theory on why it ends up monster cropped and why you end up with 5 to 10 times the amount of branches compared to the first time round is down to the root mass, when you harvest the plant and remove all the buds and side branches you are left with a plant with a huge root mass, now as the roots are still living they are still taking in the nutrients it needs to grow the plant, but as the plant has very little growth on it compared to the root mass then this is sort of like giving the plant steroids as its getting a lot more than it can actually use so it then gives you the crazy branch growth and you end up with a huge bush,
the last reveg i did i ended up cutting off around 40 to 60 side shoots as they was not getting light and the plant was a tangled mess, i cut off at least 2 carrier bags full of leaves, but the harvest was easily double what it was the first time round, you harvest the plant then it takes 3 weeks to get back into full veg, once your at this stage the plant is monster cropped and you have a crazy plant with crazy branch growth, i always do 1 or 2 reveg per grow and always have done, the yield is more than worth it compared with first time round,
so you harvest a 2.5ft plant and get 3 to 4oz off it then harvest it and reveg it and then put it in flower at the same size it was first time roudn then the monster cropped harvest will easily be 5 to 8oz depending on how you grow it, outdoors you would get huge yields but indooes a monster cropped plant gets huge and can easily take over the grow space if you dont train it."
Sorry for missing this. Hope you enjoy the read.
Sorry Pigeons, I just found this. Let me get the post for you.
Originally posted by donpaul.p
"Hi all,
some info on the reveg.
you need to harvest the plant and leave a couple of buds on the plant, only needs to be small popcorn buds, i have also found that putting the plant back under 12-12 until its go over its shock keeps it alive as i noticed some growers kept having plants die, then after 7 days of 12-12 you need to flip it back to veg then keep it in veg until you flip it back to flower,
this is usually what happens
after harvest you can put it back under 18-6 or 24-0
week 1 of veg schedule you will see no difference, the plant and buds will look the same
week 2 of veg schedule you will see some weird single bladed leaves that look nothing like mj, some are curly and very strange looking
week 3 onwards normal veg leaves start to appear and the plant is now back in veg, the plant is now monster cropped and grows like crazy and you end up with a huge bush,
how ever revegging a plant with no buds on it after harvest is still possible but you dont end up with a monster cropped plant you end up with a regular plant, for the massive growth and crazy growth you need to reveg a couple of bud sites, then you end up with a huge bush and yields will be easily double what you harvested first time round if you harvest at around the same size,
now i have experimented with revegges and theirs some pics in my journal that i posted a couple of weeks ago,
i tried to reveg a plant after harvest and all i left on the plant was 1 medium sized fan leaf, no buds or side shoots at all on the plant it was just 1 leaf, pics in my journal, this plant reveg with no problems and im currently growing it now, after harvest all it was was a stem with a fan leaf coming off it, no other growth could be seen and it reveg with no problems,
reveg experiment 2 was a complete harvest with no fan leaves on it but you could see very tiny green growth at the nodes, again this reveg with no problems,
reveg expermint 3, this again was just the main stem and near the top of the stem i left a tiny bud, no fan leaves, no side branches or anything else, this again reveg with no problems and its currently growing, only downside is i have a stem of 1.ft with nothing at all on it and at the top it has a side shoot with about 15 branches coming off it,
so its possible to reveg anything within reason,
after harvest i go strait back to veg schedule but i noticed a few growers having problems with plants dying so i tried something different, i harvested the plant and left a couple of small buds on it and instead of stressing it out strait away by going back to veg i put it back under 12-12 for about 7 to 10 days while my other plant finished then it got flipped to veg, this seemed to allow it time to recover after harvest.
now my theory on why it ends up monster cropped and why you end up with 5 to 10 times the amount of branches compared to the first time round is down to the root mass, when you harvest the plant and remove all the buds and side branches you are left with a plant with a huge root mass, now as the roots are still living they are still taking in the nutrients it needs to grow the plant, but as the plant has very little growth on it compared to the root mass then this is sort of like giving the plant steroids as its getting a lot more than it can actually use so it then gives you the crazy branch growth and you end up with a huge bush,
the last reveg i did i ended up cutting off around 40 to 60 side shoots as they was not getting light and the plant was a tangled mess, i cut off at least 2 carrier bags full of leaves, but the harvest was easily double what it was the first time round, you harvest the plant then it takes 3 weeks to get back into full veg, once your at this stage the plant is monster cropped and you have a crazy plant with crazy branch growth, i always do 1 or 2 reveg per grow and always have done, the yield is more than worth it compared with first time round,
so you harvest a 2.5ft plant and get 3 to 4oz off it then harvest it and reveg it and then put it in flower at the same size it was first time roudn then the monster cropped harvest will easily be 5 to 8oz depending on how you grow it, outdoors you would get huge yields but indooes a monster cropped plant gets huge and can easily take over the grow space if you dont train it."
Sorry for missing this. Hope you enjoy the read.
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Rockin out, fairly naked, taking meds and preparing an update! I'm in heaven!
Rockin out, fairly naked, taking meds and preparing an update! I'm in heaven!
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
A lot happens in the morning here when I get up. Gotta check dry stage, gotta burp and check the garden. Here's anesthesia put into jars 2 days ago!
Edit:: 40 grams!!
A lot happens in the morning here when I get up. Gotta check dry stage, gotta burp and check the garden. Here's anesthesia put into jars 2 days ago!
Edit:: 40 grams!!
re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
See? And I'm not even home yet. Still another hour until I can leave to get a bus home. No fair Pigeons.
Enjoy.
Rockin out, fairly naked, taking meds and preparing an update! I'm in heaven!
See? And I'm not even home yet. Still another hour until I can leave to get a bus home. No fair Pigeons.
Enjoy.
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Oh Sue! We're dancing together
Oh Sue! We're dancing together
re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Whew! I was afraid there might be a selfie.
Whew! I was afraid there might be a selfie.
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
MONDAY UPDATE****
The time is just flying by isn't it? Week after week marvelous things are happening, in the grow room and out! I hope everyone feels as energized and motivated! Actually, that deserves a little dance, excuse me, ***Pigeons
dances***...
Now, I'm incredibly hot working in the grow room, however, lots got done this morning. I'm making the executive decision that Mataro Blue, coming in at 13in, is ready for flower. So, for the last 2 nights both her and Flower Bomb Kush are receiving 18/6 light schedule.
Can you tell them apart?
There is some stretching going on. which is expected now that she is having access to all those stored sugars that are only used during the night. So, she will reach for the light over the next couple days. As she does her thing, I place her under the HPS for a few hours at a time to get her ready for 1000W of sunshine (HPS)
.
I'm excited. This means another 2 harvests around the corner! I can't believe how far I've come since I've joined this magazine. It's all evident in my journals (even the ones not in my signature) and I'm so thankful!
Since Mataro Blue is busy getting ready for a few weeks in the sun (HPS), I've decided to do some work on Flower Bomb Kush. So please let me show you what I've done.
LST and LOLLIPOPPING of FLOWER BOMB KUSH(week 12 veg)
Low Stress Training
She has gotten a bit congested over the last few weeks. She's been topped 4 times and she has leaves everywhere. So, I'm going to take this opportunity to open her up a bit. First I will just do some LST or some bending of her main stocks. This will cause the canopy to open up to the sides and allow light to penetrate and strengthen smaller branches and bud sites.
And this is what I was left with. Much more open. Now air can pass through with no problem and light can access the entire plant. No shadows.
Now the bottom of the plant is still congested and in need of some lollipopping to open her up and get some air underneath as well.
LOLLIPOPPING
In order to open up the bottom of the plant you need to get all the low hanging and small growth off the plant. If this plant was not trained this particular way I would not typically lollipop my plants. However, as this plant as been trained she has produced a lot of extra growth that I'm not particularly worried about or is to small to harvest. It's important to do all this training while the plant is still in Veg. This way it spends all its time repairing itself while its already working on veg and root growth, not bud growth.
I prefer to use tool as little as possible. If I can get away with washing my hands and using my fingers, I will. So, I just pinched off all the low hanging growth that was either to small to produce decent buds or were effecting air flow.
I finished with this. Nothing to crazy. If I find that there is some more that needs to go. I will just repeat the same method until it's done.
Now she goes pack into the cabinet to soak in the CFLs for a few hour by herself.
Now for the other 2 girls.
MATARO BLUE(week 8 veg)
Like I said above she is coming in at 13in and boy is she full! So bushy and such big leaves.
GREEN CRACK(week 6 flower)
Isn't she beautiful? I have no guesses on what to expect from her but she is doing outstanding. She loves this 1000W. Her buds are tight and thick already!
Well as always friends I appreciate your presence and wish you nothing but the thickest and frostiest of buds
MONDAY UPDATE****
The time is just flying by isn't it? Week after week marvelous things are happening, in the grow room and out! I hope everyone feels as energized and motivated! Actually, that deserves a little dance, excuse me, ***Pigeons
dances***...Now, I'm incredibly hot working in the grow room, however, lots got done this morning. I'm making the executive decision that Mataro Blue, coming in at 13in, is ready for flower. So, for the last 2 nights both her and Flower Bomb Kush are receiving 18/6 light schedule.
Can you tell them apart?
There is some stretching going on. which is expected now that she is having access to all those stored sugars that are only used during the night. So, she will reach for the light over the next couple days. As she does her thing, I place her under the HPS for a few hours at a time to get her ready for 1000W of sunshine (HPS)
. I'm excited. This means another 2 harvests around the corner! I can't believe how far I've come since I've joined this magazine. It's all evident in my journals (even the ones not in my signature) and I'm so thankful!
Since Mataro Blue is busy getting ready for a few weeks in the sun (HPS), I've decided to do some work on Flower Bomb Kush. So please let me show you what I've done.
LST and LOLLIPOPPING of FLOWER BOMB KUSH(week 12 veg)
Low Stress Training
She has gotten a bit congested over the last few weeks. She's been topped 4 times and she has leaves everywhere. So, I'm going to take this opportunity to open her up a bit. First I will just do some LST or some bending of her main stocks. This will cause the canopy to open up to the sides and allow light to penetrate and strengthen smaller branches and bud sites.
And this is what I was left with. Much more open. Now air can pass through with no problem and light can access the entire plant. No shadows.
Now the bottom of the plant is still congested and in need of some lollipopping to open her up and get some air underneath as well.
LOLLIPOPPING
In order to open up the bottom of the plant you need to get all the low hanging and small growth off the plant. If this plant was not trained this particular way I would not typically lollipop my plants. However, as this plant as been trained she has produced a lot of extra growth that I'm not particularly worried about or is to small to harvest. It's important to do all this training while the plant is still in Veg. This way it spends all its time repairing itself while its already working on veg and root growth, not bud growth.
I prefer to use tool as little as possible. If I can get away with washing my hands and using my fingers, I will. So, I just pinched off all the low hanging growth that was either to small to produce decent buds or were effecting air flow.
I finished with this. Nothing to crazy. If I find that there is some more that needs to go. I will just repeat the same method until it's done.
Now she goes pack into the cabinet to soak in the CFLs for a few hour by herself.
Now for the other 2 girls.
MATARO BLUE(week 8 veg)
Like I said above she is coming in at 13in and boy is she full! So bushy and such big leaves.
GREEN CRACK(week 6 flower)
Isn't she beautiful? I have no guesses on what to expect from her but she is doing outstanding. She loves this 1000W. Her buds are tight and thick already!
Well as always friends I appreciate your presence and wish you nothing but the thickest and frostiest of buds
re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Another excellent update. They all look GREAT!
Another excellent update. They all look GREAT!
Bearswhowalk
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
anyone with experience doing cstarts from clippings pm me please
anyone with experience doing cstarts from clippings pm me please
HunterHunt
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Wow..... Just beautiful. Let me first say those two girls are sooooo bushy and beautiful! The nodes are so tight and you did a great job at lollipopping them. I dont believe in defoliating, but to remove those lower growths like that is a great idea. I will start doing mine a little more before flower. I have to really work on prepping my girls for flower instead of just throwing them in there. Thats my goal for future grows. Keep up the good work!!! That flower bomb kush is recovering nice! Keep those nutes low. Cant wait to see these flowering.
That green crack is looking so good as well. What size pot is she in? Shes going to explode under that 1000watt.
Wow..... Just beautiful. Let me first say those two girls are sooooo bushy and beautiful! The nodes are so tight and you did a great job at lollipopping them. I dont believe in defoliating, but to remove those lower growths like that is a great idea. I will start doing mine a little more before flower. I have to really work on prepping my girls for flower instead of just throwing them in there. Thats my goal for future grows. Keep up the good work!!! That flower bomb kush is recovering nice! Keep those nutes low. Cant wait to see these flowering.
That green crack is looking so good as well. What size pot is she in? Shes going to explode under that 1000watt.
Bearswhowalk
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
am waitting with held breath to see these babies go
am waitting with held breath to see these babies go
COgrower
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Looking good, I started the re-veg of the Golden Goat or as it's now known, Zombie Goat, as it comes back to life. I am just getting to stage 2 and seeing new funky growth and curling, but still nice and green. I left lots of lower buds as I want a huge bush. She will start spending the afternoons outside and by the end of the month will stay out there permanently in a bigger pot.
Looking good, I started the re-veg of the Golden Goat or as it's now known, Zombie Goat, as it comes back to life. I am just getting to stage 2 and seeing new funky growth and curling, but still nice and green. I left lots of lower buds as I want a huge bush. She will start spending the afternoons outside and by the end of the month will stay out there permanently in a bigger pot.
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
5 gallon
That green crack is looking so good as well. What size pot is she in? Shes going to explode under that 1000watt.
5 gallon
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
It's amazing the transformation the plant goes through during this stage! Takes a couple weeks but once she starts she keeps on going
It's amazing the transformation the plant goes through during this stage! Takes a couple weeks but once she starts she keeps on going
re: Pigeons420 Flies the Koupe & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Ok Pigeons. That was one dynamic and educational update. How proud am I? Yeah, that and more.
Ok Pigeons. That was one dynamic and educational update. How proud am I? Yeah, that and more.
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Coop & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Good morning!
Thanks Sue! That one took me a couple hours to finish.
Glad you appreciated it!
Lots of love!
Good morning!
Thanks Sue! That one took me a couple hours to finish.
Glad you appreciated it!
Lots of love!
HunterHunt
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re: Pigeons420 Flies the Coop & Goes Perpetual in 2015
Oh yea!!!! She has plenty of room to stretch out! I think you will be surprised at how much her buds swell under that 1000W!!
How close is the green c to the 1000 watt? And are you running your 400 as well? Whats the layout going to be once you put your new girls in the flower tent? Im excited to see them flower! =)
Oh yea!!!! She has plenty of room to stretch out! I think you will be surprised at how much her buds swell under that 1000W!!
How close is the green c to the 1000 watt? And are you running your 400 as well? Whats the layout going to be once you put your new girls in the flower tent? Im excited to see them flower! =)