Peyton & Pals Perpetual Playground

I bet if u find the assessment on those lakes they have a deeper center. All lakes that contain game fish and that freeze over in winter have to be 10m deep. If not the lake don't stratify, and would in turn kill the fish. Or the smaller 6 foot lakes lead into or from a bigger lake. Then that's not a lake that's a chain lake.

What he's creating would be an enclosed system so nothing can swim down or up streams because there won't be any. For one reason environmental laws don't allow it.
To establish an enclosed system with 10m depth it could possabably take 2-5 years before stock would sustain themselves by reproducing, he would just have to keep stocking it for the first 2-5 years till things took off.

But I believe this is the least of your issues building such a system. Lining an area an acre long to hold water, would cost probably 25,000$. Just in EPDM rubber, on the very low end estimate there. Flooding a hole won't hold water unless there is either a stream running into it,(enviro laws rescricts that) or having underground water system half as deep as the lake. Even more expensive to create if there isn't any natural ones in the area that fit the criteria. Its why lakes form naturally. Man made ones require a lot of engineering and planing. Or big ass rubber liners.

Definitely doable. I helped build a small lake years ago, was probably 4x the size your talking about. And it was a 1.3 million dollar project. I was in charge of making sure certain conditions were met to do what the customer wanted. Had to call in engineers, plumbers, geoligests, and then the 4 man construction crew. Was finished and filled in 5 months.

Definitely a retired fellas thing to work on. And look into constructing.
 
Well when he hears that he'll probably just opt to buy an already established property. I know he don't have that kinda money and doesn't want to invest that. Thanks though, at least he won't have to go through the heartbreak of stocking and paying. He just wants to relax and fish lol
 
If he does choose to go that route, I can design a suitable system and size to do what he wants. No charge. Ill do it in spare time. (My company charges 2-10k per desighn) might not be a small lake, but will allow him to fish and won't break the bank creating it, Under 5k. The size you said is just on an industrial level. He could build something in the 100k gallon range that he could fish in. Size you were talking about I'm guessing is in the millions of gallons.
But at the same time it wouldn't be the same as lake fishing lol the 100k gallon.
 
I've come to realize something about sponsors... They don't look at u unless your a customer, and when they sponsor its a discount, not free lights. Or your a well known grower.
I've tried at probably 50 companies, from seed companies to led light makers. Worth a shot though
 
Stumped said:
If he does choose to go that route, I can design a suitable system and size to do what he wants. No charge. Ill do it in spare time. (My company charges 2-10k per desighn) might not be a small lake, but will allow him to fish and won't break the bank creating it, Under 5k. The size you said is just on an industrial level. He could build something in the 100k gallon range that he could fish in. Size you were talking about I'm guessing is in the millions of gallons.
But at the same time it wouldn't be the same as lake fishing lol the 100k gallon.
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He wants something that's big enough that he can't cast across the whole thing from one spot. All the lakes and ponds I've seen here have never had a liner at bottom. We have homes with basements, but I think our water table is pretty close to the surface. Probably about 25 feet down and you can hit a well to get water. I'll talk to him this weekend and see how much he would want to invest in a project like this. I know he wants to sell the house they're in and move somewhere with 5+ acres. He ran heavy equipment his whole life in steel mill, so he would rent and dig the thing himself.
 
I hope he gets more acreage cause I would hide a few plants in the property. He would find them pretty quick cause he grew back in the day, but he wouldn't mind as long as nobody else knew
 
PeytonManning said:
He wants something that's big enough that he can't cast across the whole thing from one spot. All the lakes and ponds I've seen here have never had a liner at bottom. We have homes with basements, but I think our water table is pretty close to the surface. Probably about 25 feet down and you can hit a well to get water. I'll talk to him this weekend and see how much he would want to invest in a project like this. I know he wants to sell the house they're in and move somewhere with 5+ acres. He ran heavy equipment his whole life in steel mill, so he would rent and dig the thing himself.
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Make sure he gets a place with a year round creek, to fill it and keep the water rotating and refreshed. That was my plan when the bottom fell out a few years ago. Wanted to sell my house and get twenty acres and have or make a pond/lake. My house was worth over $400k then and now about $275k. But still dream of my own lake. My son does heavy equipment and can rent or borrow what he needed to do the job, but things altered my plans. The best laid plans... usually get fucked in some way, eh?
An old friend has a few ponds and grows catfish commercially. Sure is funny when he scoops dog food out of a trashcan and throws it in. Thousands of catfish sucking at the surface. I don't know much about it but he has three all linked together with a short creek. First one gets water from the natural creek and the third one returns water to the creek.

WJ
 
Girls are doing well today. Looks like some growth too. I took out the 48x3 reflector LED and lit the Mars II up. I haven't put the 4" fan and filter in yet. I have to build a sort of stand for it. Wife works today and I can't get to the Depot to get some PCV pipe and joints. Saw one in Governmentchz's grow box. I need a different style. But his is nice to a pvc nut like myself.
Any way, the tent got to 96 degrees and I have it back down to 84 with two fans. Freaked me out too. Fed again today after giving a quart to each one. Vast is getting bigger than Fast it appears. We'll see how it goes.

WJ
 
Good stuff wildjim. I know how it goes when you try to plan things out. I've tried with my grows and haven't had a plan fit in place yet. Surprised one is growing faster than the other. Hopefully it's not much difference, unless the other makes up for it in flower or yield.
 
Governmentchz did a grow with two of the same seeds and they grew completely different. So I guess buying the same "hybrid" seeds can change toward any parental gene. I have never heard of anything about dominant genes in any blog. When I grow Big Boy tomatoes I can't grow them from my own seeds, they're F2. Don't know what parent will be dominant and show it. I don't understand genetics, mind you, but I know my sons are mostly like their mother, so I do understand that anything could grow differently even given the same environmentals. I wonder if that might happen with Colloidal Silver and if it might be a good thing to try with a real stabilized strain. With the least genetic parentage. What do you think?

WJ
 
Jim my vast didn't look the same either one literally looked like a cabbage the fan leaves were huge compared to the other one I thought I had been robbed for a while it didn't look like a normal fan leave but both smoke pretty much the same at the end. So don't get worried if you get a little later in veg and you have one that has huge fan leaves it's gonna be ok :):)
 
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