Pete Detroit's First Grow, Indoor, Dirt, Multi Strain: Round Two

Pete Detroit · Aug 15, 2022

12 Hours later...
Checked the girls this morning, as expected, Juicy and Zilla(2) had rolled up to the light, were ready for next tie to the rim, as we bend them around. Zilla(2) is clearly in the lead, many pre-flowers on many nodes, all of which 'should' be competing for Top Bud....Zilla(1) not far behind, and LOTTA nodes. Juicy seems to be taking just a bit longer, which is fine, gives her time to fill out a bit more. Goldy had shrugged off one of her hooks, so went for the rim after all to separate her tops

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Pete Detroit
Aug 15, 2022
purple juice

Juicy

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Pete Detroit
Aug 15, 2022
gold leaf

Goldy

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Zilla(2) clearly showing pre-flowers

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Zilla(1) Also pre-flowering

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Family Portrait

Pete Detroit · Aug 18, 2022

Sigh,,, Purple Juice is GONE, checked on 'em yesterday, and she was SUPER green, and wilty. I assumed fert burn, and drenched the eff out of the bucket (filled it 2x) but apparently too little, too late - I think she's a total loss. And today, it appears the 'extra' light (to make up the difference from the 1/2 dead Mars Hydro lamp) was too close and burned part of Zilla(1) >Grr< not a good day for the ladies. As for the lamp - they sent me a replacement 'driver" to swap out, but they are NOT modular, and disconnecting the defective one rendered the connecting hardware useless. SO, had to expose the wires, peel back insulation / sheathing, splice everything together. Have yet to complete the job, will fuss with it in the AM. Point being, do NOT accept a replacement power supply if you have an issue, unless the ones you have ARE modular.

GratefulBud · Aug 19, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
Sigh,,, Purple Juice is GONE, checked on 'em yesterday, and she was SUPER green, and wilty. I assumed fert burn, and drenched the eff out of the bucket (filled it 2x) but apparently too little, too late - I think she's a total loss. And today, it appears the 'extra' light (to make up the difference from the 1/2 dead Mars Hydro lamp) was too close and burned part of Zilla(1) >Grr< not a good day for the ladies. As for the lamp - they sent me a replacement 'driver" to swap out, but they are NOT modular, and disconnecting the defective one rendered the connecting hardware useless. SO, had to expose the wires, peel back insulation / sheathing, splice everything together. Have yet to complete the job, will fuss with it in the AM. Point being, do NOT accept a replacement power supply if you have an issue, unless the ones you have ARE modular.

Don’t write her off just yet. I’ve seen plants look absolutely horrible and bounce back.

Pete Detroit · Aug 19, 2022

Thanks, Bud. Well see. Got the light back to fully functional, so there's THAT going for me..
Also 50 posts!! I get to vote on plant / nugg of he month!!

GratefulBud · Aug 19, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
Thanks, Bud. Well see. Got the light back to fully functional, so there's THAT going for me..
Also 50 posts!! I get to vote on plant / nugg of he month!!

Is the other one a goner?

Pete Detroit · Aug 20, 2022

GratefulBud said:
Is the other one a goner?

Looks like, NO signs of life today, but pretty much 24 hours w/o light didn't help.
Fully expect both Zilllas to survive, tho they're also looking VERY green... might have hit them w/ teh bloom ferts a week early (and too early for poor Juicy...)
Will get pix, tomorrow.

GratefulBud · Aug 20, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
Looks like, NO signs of life today, but pretty much 24 hours w/o light didn't help.
Fully expect both Zilllas to survive, tho they're also looking VERY green... might have hit them w/ teh bloom ferts a week early (and too early for poor Juicy...)
Will get pix, tomorrow.

Sounds like nute burn. I'd go with just water for a few days. Not too much if you have already flushed. Be patient. They may surprise you. Many times I've thought I killed them for sure but after a few days they bounce back.

Pete Detroit · Aug 20, 2022

So, main light back on line, running 20/4 at 50%. Cleaned the scorched leaf off Zilla(1), Topped Goldie again (all 4 stalks, she gonna be a MONSTER.

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Pete Detroit
Aug 20, 2022
purple juice

She's Dead, Jim... Poor little Juicy. Haven't "Harvested" her yet, but I don't think she's...

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Pete Detroit
Aug 20, 2022
gold leaf

Goldie, looking fat and sassy. topped all 4 nodes today.

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Pete Detroit
Aug 20, 2022

Zilla(1) aka Icarus, got too close to the supplemental lamp, got a bit singed

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Pete Detroit
Aug 20, 2022

Zilla(1) trimmed off the scorched leaves, hopefully she'll recover

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Pete Detroit
Aug 20, 2022

Zilla(2), cruising right along!

Pete Detroit · Aug 22, 2022

Six weeks old, Zilla(1) shows the value of being Topped (or, more like, accidentally Fimmed) w/ 11(?) bus sites. as opposed to (2)'s 7 or 8 (7 showing in the pic. However, the bud sites are smaller less developed (getting scorched didn't help any, including direct damage to at least two buds). Bottom line, not likely to try that again on an auto, not unless it has a period of 90 days or better (these two spec out at 70-75 days). But hey, it's good to know. DEFINATELY liking the result of LST on (2) with 7 strong bud sites showing, it seems pretty amazing! At 43 days into a projected 70, seems hard to believe only 4 more weeks or so to go! (2) also got a bit of a trim, pulled a couple of the fan leaves that were hiding the lower growth...
Goldie, now, she's a freaking Rock STAR Main branches nearly to the top of her bucket, 6 of the 8 projected new tops out and well on the way! (The other two are showing, but not large enough to photo well) Another day or two, probably spread the secondary's, as well as pull the mains back a bit again. She's responding SO darned well to all this, you might even think I knew what the heck I was doing! I DO expect to top her at least twice more. Don't know if I'll be able to sufficiently control her w/ just LST, or we'll need to go full ScrOG. (I'm kinda betting scrog... )
Anyway, here's today's pix, as always feel free to leave questions / comments...

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Zilla(1) Trying to recover from the light scorching.

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Zilla(2) - Loaded with baby buds!

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Pete Detroit
Aug 22, 2022
gold leaf

Goldie, Living LARGE!!!

GratefulBud · Aug 22, 2022

Looking good Pete!

Pete Detroit · Aug 23, 2022

GratefulBud said:
Looking good Pete!

Well, other than lamp burn, and Fert burn death of Purple Juice, yeah
But it's a learning curve - that's why we're all here, eh?
:hookah:

GratefulBud · Aug 23, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
Well, other than lamp burn, and Fert burn death of Purple Juice, yeah
But it's a learning curve - that's why we're all here, eh?

I've grown the past 3 seasons and man I still manage to fuck things up! LOL!

Pete Detroit · Aug 28, 2022

Ok, here we are at 7 weeks. The two autos probably ready for another (LIGHT) dose of bloom ferts. Goldie is just loving all the light, a whole bucket full of tops. She'll probably be ready to get topped again later this week

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Pete Detroit
Aug 28, 2022
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Goldie, just about filling her bucket! Many tops EVERYWHERE!!!

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Zilla(1) Trummed off the two bud sites tha got lamp scorched and were doing nothing, still...

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Zilla(2) - plenty happy bud sites here, too! and further along than her twin. Probably no worth...

GratefulBud · Aug 28, 2022

Looking good!
Although if it were me I would raise Goldie up out of the bucket for better air flow, and more soil for her roots.

Pete Detroit · Aug 28, 2022

Valid points. She'll be above the rim shortly, anyway... But yeah, getting more dirt under the roots might be a good idea, have to see how hard it would be to tip her out...

GratefulBud · Aug 28, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
Valid points. She'll be above the rim shortly, anyway... But yeah, getting more dirt under the roots might be a good idea, have to see how hard it would be to tip her out...

Might be too late to do in flower?

Pete Detroit · Aug 28, 2022

The two autos are in early bloom, Planning to keep Goldie under 20/4 for another cycle of Autos. Yeah, more dirt is a GOOD idea, if only to keep her from getting top heavy...

GratefulBud · Aug 28, 2022

Pete Detroit said:
The two autos are in early bloom, Planning to keep Goldie under 20/4 for another cycle of Autos. Yeah, more dirt is a GOOD idea, if only to keep her from getting top heavy...

I've never grown autos - but from what I hear they do not take kindly to up-potting.

Pete Detroit · Aug 28, 2022

Yeah, they really seem to have a low tolerance for stress.. But these two seem happy enough in their 3.5g buckets. Think next time I'll plant 'em off center, with more room to get bendy w/ LST

Pete Detroit · Aug 31, 2022

gwoFlorOk - first, the bad news - after repotting into extra soil (from Juicy's abandoned bucket) added some GeoFlora Veg nutes, and off we go.. unfortunately, somewhere b/n the forced spreading from the "L"ST and the re-potting (root ball a disappointing loose lump, about the size of a cantaloupe, NOTHING like being root bound, yet) the GOmain stem was split nearly 1/2" down... Hey, it's ok, right? Stem splitting in a thing, right? Yeah, NO, NOT like that, and NOT in Veg.. Ok, so, grab some wire (more convenient than finding the e-tape) and bind it back up. Now, to monitor for a few days, make sure that both stalks are still getting good nutes / water.. Meanwhile (not pictured, as I didn't take a 'final' shot, pulled a few shoots away from the others, and topped effing EVERYONE!!
Why? Apparently I'm a psycho on the photoperiod who has another 3 mo to go before bloom (to recover) and worst case scenario I lop those two branches off to make effing big ass clones... we'll see...
Meanwhile, the Auto Gals bot another dose of bloom ferts this am, as well as having most fan leaves (well, the ones blocking lower budding) removed (seemed like the 'right' time to start lolly-popping them) and seem to be loving it, and the added light... Both with over 10 budding sites, we'll see how many develop to be 'real' buds vs. "Larf" (or "samples" )
GEAUX Zilla!!!!