Osmocote Plus Plant Food: Discuss Its Use With Cannabis Here!

HorseBadortiz said:
If anyone is still on the fence, Lowe's has OC+ on sale for 13 bucks a jug.
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Yup. That and a bag of Ironite and you're good to grow 150 plants or so.....for just about 20 bucks.
 
DocBud said:
This website is all about learning. One of the first things that must happen if we are to learn is that we must abandon the idea that we already know "everything." No one here thinks that....but most of us, myself definitely included, have fallen prey to the cannabis nutrient hype and the mysterious, secret methods used by "pro growers" who grow pot that is so much better....

Bullshit! (actually, using that would be a huge improvement over the chemical CRAP that is bottled and sold to gullible stoners in hydro shops)

If you want to grow fantastic weed, it's really not hard:

1.) create an environment that you can control, come hell or high water. That means it's never too hot or too cold, humid or dry, but always just right.

2.)adequate lighting

3.)a quality medium

4.)inexpensive, complete plant food

it's the complete part that isn't offered by the rip-off cannabis nute companies, unless you think buying 9 bottles of crap is complete. I call it a blatant insult to my intelligence.

OC+ is a complete plant food. So is dynagrow, Peter's, jack's classic and others. In soil and certain soiless mixes, Dynamite is becomes complete.

Don't buy things based on anecdote: "My friend grew great buds and he used______."

Learn to read a label. Understand that micronutes are crtical. Use a plant food that has 'em, or at least buy some micro's and add them to your incomplete plant food.

If you do this, you'll grow fantastic marijuana. But if you can't control your environment don't expect Big Mike to rock your grow with 499.99 dollars worth of Can-0-sewer and Bud Factor X. Your plants will most likely suck.

Simple. Easy. Spend your money of environmental controls. Save the extra 20 bucks for CRF's and an iron supplement.

Many of us have pictures to prove it.
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this must be the post of the year!! well said my friend:bravo::welldone::welldone:
HorseBadortiz said:
If anyone is still on the fence, Lowe's has OC+ on sale for 13 bucks a jug.
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get it! works great if ur conditions are in the good range. ie.70-80F* its a well balance plant food. if ur conditions are not good then maybe look into Dynamite, so far the DM red and Mater Magic are treating me good for being 50% coco and not adding any cal to it. we will see with flowering though? IMO either one you cant go wrong with. they both grow good buds
 
hey guys, im trying out the oc+ for the first time in one of my girls. just wondering if someone might be able to help my questions.

when using oc+ is it better to let ur soil dry up before watering again? or is it best to keep your soil a lil moist at all times. to me i would think to keep it moist just cuz ur using like pellets and it realeases fert when watered?

Is it bad to let the pellets dry up, will it decrease their life exp?

also i am seeing that my liquid nute girl dries up alot faster, a whole lot faster thn my OC+ girl. both in soil. Is it the OC+? or probably just strain differnece?

thanks guys
 
I agree with you that it's better to keep things a little on the moist side with CRF's, but that's more important in soilless media that retain less water than in soil.

I wouldn't change my watering regimen in soil for CRF's as they work very well in soil if you run your normal wet/dry cycles.

If you keep your soil too moist, you will decrease oxygen to the roots, so that's not good.

If they're different strains, I'd think the difference in how they're drinking is strain-related.

Liquid nutes vs CRF's shouldn't affect water uptake.
 
same watering as usual. water when the container gets light, and make sure you have some runoff.

CRF's come dry as a bone from the manufacture. So I cant see how drying up the OC would hurt it at all. (drying up the roots completely is never good)
 
Anyone seen this happen from using OC+? (Not my pic, but looks like an issue I'm having with a plant, no other nutes)
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VapedOutJoe said:
Anyone seen this happen from using OC+? (Not my pic, but looks like an issue I'm having with a plant, no other nutes)
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u talking about the new leaves in flowering? From what ive seen over the years that happens when you use allot of Nitrogen in flowering. or when temps are real high. every time ive use high N in flowering ive got allot of new growth instead of all going to buds. others might say different but this is what ive seen over the years when using high N ferts. once ive went to low N in flowering it didnt happen anymore.

if it keeps making foliage like that in late flowering the inside buds will be allot of leaf.
 
VapedOut & Irish
I am starting 11th week of flowering today NL hempy/crf.
She was looking a little bleak a few weeks ago so I top dressed with 2 scoops of OC+ and now she is still growing and fox tailing like crazy. Every bud has thin 1 inch of new growth. Temps were high side most of the grow. Per Docs recommendation I am trying to keep the temps on the lower side to finish her off. Since its in the teens outside now, the temps in the grow room have been lower anyway.
Gave her a good look under the scope yesterday and she is finally turning amber, like maybe 10% or so. One more week i hope , if not gonna pick her on the 20 or 21st. 20th is full lunar eclipse if that makes a diff.:yahoo:
 
sounds like the heat is messing with you and the Hempy. i had my last plants take forever to flower i couldn't get them to. i think it was high temps and Hempy. as far as the leaves on ur buds its from the high N specially in the high temps the OC+ will dump out more the hotter the temps. The more Nitrogen the plant will out energy into foliage and i am sure she also dose the same to keep her cool in the heat.
 
Setting Sun said:
Here's a nice tidbit:

https://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/repositoryfiles/ca3205p12-62519.pdf
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That's pretty interesting. Am I reading it right? The best yield comes from center placement and watering 2x/wk with supplements. Inflation! :)

I used Mrs Horse's dibbler in perlite hempys when the OC+ seemed to be running low. Didn't seem to effect the plants in a bad way, kind of arthroscopic surgery.

The supplements 2x/wk, though... anybody know what's most productive, counter-productive, or just no 'count w/ OC+?
 
HorseBadortiz said:
That's pretty interesting. Am I reading it right? The best yield comes from center placement and watering 2x/wk with supplements. Inflation! :)

I used Mrs Horse's dibbler in perlite hempys when the OC+ seemed to be running low. Didn't seem to effect the plants in a bad way, kind of arthroscopic surgery.

The supplements 2x/wk, though... anybody know what's most productive, counter-productive, or just no 'count w/ OC+?
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I've got a couple observations:

OC+ seems to produce really beautiful plants all by itself. However, I think that's relative...compared to the plants that ripoff nutes produce they are nice....but maybe not so much compared to what a true pro would get?

I supplemented OC+ with organic soil, snowstorm, micro nutes, compost tea, molasses two feedings of 15/15/15.

I think if we look to OC+ to be a base nute, in quality organic soil, and then judiciously use a few supplements along the way, we'll get a product that is far better than we can imagine.

This stuff is superior to the CRAP that is marketed to us.....I have no doubt that a really talented grower could use OC+ and additives to produce a really special crop.
 
K, guys, I've got some plants going with the OC+, and so far, they look the best this newbie has grown, I like the simplicity (I finally got a meter, so my PHs are better in tune)...now Im using Happy Frog soil, $20.00 a bag, with some perlite...

Now when you Google Miracle Grow/Cannibus, every site says its not the best to use. NOW, as anyone tried OC+ with MG???
 
Probably not a good combination, as MG soil already comes with a time-release fertilizer, so results could be somewhat unpredictable.

But the reason to avoid using MG, if possible, is because there are better choices in potting soils, and choice of media is not where you want to try to save some money.

MG may work OK with OC+, but I'd try to find some online grows using that combo before I committed to it.
 
lbezphil2005 said:
Ended up getting dm red, purple and mater magic from a website who is not a sponsor here. Really cheap tho, anybody want the info pm me. Glad I didn't mix anything too rich when I transplanted, now I can top feed some red along with the OC+. And that epsome biotone? Wow, when I transplanted this time around I should have taken pics, the stuff is awesome! Never, never had roots like this, in a 1 gal pot 2 weeks and almost rootbound! Well, maybe not rootbound, but I have never had roots like that at this stage, had to make room to ease them into their new home!! on my arjans strawberry haze the roots were over 12" long, the magus genetics motivation was 5" in diameter and the ball was over 6", tail was around 14", super lemon hazes were the same, lots of lateral branching!
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did you mix the biotone into all the soil ? irishboy had issues when he just put it in the hole (that sounds bad LOL)
 
DocBud said:
I've got a couple observations:

OC+ seems to produce really beautiful plants all by itself. However, I think that's relative...compared to the plants that ripoff nutes produce they are nice....but maybe not so much compared to what a true pro would get?

I supplemented OC+ with organic soil, snowstorm, micro nutes, compost tea, molasses two feedings of 15/15/15.

I think if we look to OC+ to be a base nute, in quality organic soil, and then judiciously use a few supplements along the way, we'll get a product that is far better than we can imagine.

This stuff is superior to the CRAP that is marketed to us.....I have no doubt that a really talented grower could use OC+ and additives to produce a really special crop.
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OC+ needs to start putting half naked chicks on the containers then the dummys will start buying it and not the over priced witches brew :)
 
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