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Doc, thanks for the reply...I've been reading your' posts about hempy & OC+....I haven't been able to come up with a layout for a hempy grow, but I'll give ut a try down the road I'm sure..

I'm just a 'hobby' guy, not a commercial grower, and everytime I turn around, I need this, or that, or my bulbs burned out, or I need another tent, yahda-yahda-yahda. The hydro-supply stores have been getting all my bucks....and GEEEEZZZEEE most of the nuits they have are expensive....so the OS+ looked good...

Got a bottle, and will be giving it a go

Thanks
 
I think Doc is right, or close to, because I have noticed issues with my ladies and they are cold, and the OC+ just kinda...stopped...so that was a trip. Not scientific enough to justify a consideration of validity, in my scenario.


But yeah, what I am saying is things are going to get super cold super cold. Not sure yet what ambient air temps will be, but I will get back to you all on that.

We put too much emphasis on heat, but with LED's...things change...heat is different in this situation.

-Go
 
THIS IS THE 3RD TIME I HAVE HEARD THIS, AND SINCE ITS COLD AS HELL I AM SKIPPING OC+ ON THIS CURRENT GROW AND GOING WITH MY DM INSTEAD.

sorry i forgot the caps lock was one and am too lazy to retype it. but from what i have seen on my last grow and from what others are now saying OC+ is too sensitive to weather condition's. its just dumped out in my grow with the high temps and is shutting down not dumping in cold temps, thats just not going to work for me most of the year expect for maybe a few moths when temps and in the mid 70's.

I have no idea how the DM will work in cold temps? but i will take my chances and not gamble my plants in this cold with OC+. i know the DM dose better in hotter temps then the OC+. Now when the OC+ is in the mid 70's it kicks ass as far as potency from what ive seen, but DM was made to still work in hot temps and cold temps and well as medium temps from what they claim, is it true? IDK but their claim for hotter temps is true because i seen that 1st hand.

but from the 3 claims ive heard from OC+ not working in cold temps i think ill let it sit out on this next grow and wait for the time of year its in the 70's witch is hardly never for me.lol. but ill be back to her sometime.
 
IrishBoy said:
THIS IS THE 3RD TIME I HAVE HEARD THIS, AND SINCE ITS COLD AS HELL I AM SKIPPING OC+ ON THIS CURRENT GROW AND GOING WITH MY DM INSTEAD.

sorry i forgot the caps lock was one and am too lazy to retype it. but from what i have seen on my last grow and from what others are now saying OC+ is too sensitive to weather condition's. its just dumped out in my grow with the high temps and is shutting down not dumping in cold temps, thats just not going to work for me most of the year expect for maybe a few moths when temps and in the mid 70's.

I have no idea how the DM will work in cold temps? but i will take my chances and not gamble my plants in this cold with OC+. i know the DM dose better in hotter temps then the OC+. Now when the OC+ is in the mid 70's it kicks ass as far as potency from what ive seen, but DM was made to still work in hot temps and cold temps and well as medium temps from what they claim, is it true? IDK but their claim for hotter temps is true because i seen that 1st hand.

but from the 3 claims ive heard from OC+ not working in cold temps i think ill let it sit out on this next grow and wait for the time of year its in the 70's witch is hardly never for me.lol. but ill be back to her sometime.
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here's another way to look at what you said above:

OC+, like any other high quality fertilizer, must be used properly. IF high heat or cold is expected, use a product formulated for the conditions you will be growing in. There are other OC products that meet these criteria.

However, as indoor growers, we should strive to control our environment. I don't worry about these things...in fact I embrace them. I can slow the release of ferts by controlling the temps. That's a wonderful thing.
 
I agree Doc. If temps being to low are an issue, maybe going back to and hid light for these periods is not a bad thing. Just like hot weather makes leds more cost effective because of lower heat emissions, hid in winter might be a better option for eliminating the need for heaters or heating pads etc. Thus offsetting the cost of running and hid somewhat. We are the masters of our little environments as you stated.
 
DocBud said:
here's another way to look at what you said above:

OC+, like any other high quality fertilizer, must be used properly. IF high heat or cold is expected, use a product formulated for the conditions you will be growing in. There are other OC products that meet these criteria.

However, as indoor growers, we should strive to control our environment. I don't worry about these things...in fact I embrace them. I can slow the release of ferts by controlling the temps. That's a wonderful thing.
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I agree! but in my setup with leds where it runs cooler then HID heat is a issue in the winter. for me to run my 1500w heater in that rooms is pointless to me because thats allot of watts for me to heat a room with just 4 plants. if i had more plants then it would be a no brainier. So i am doing what u said and skiping the OC+ on this grow because it wont be used properly in my case.

i didnt know theirs other OC products that meet this criteria, could you post them for some of us could use this for these condition's? i know allot of people are coming up on cold temps so this would help many people. i just hope they have the Micros and not just a NPK and i dont have to add other things for the micro? if so then i will just use the DM and not have to add anything and save money.

Now if you have a dialed in room where u can choose ur condition's then i see OC+ being a very good thing! you can then now flush at the end of ur grow by stopping the release rate and have a good flush before harvest. but i would say 90-95% of the growers do have the funds or setup for these type of setups including me.

I am in no way saying anything bad about OC+ i am a big fan of it, but in my grow this time of the year i rather not take the chance from something a few members are saying their seeing it work in the cold temps. i rather try the DM in these cold temps and take my chance and also share with u guys my findings on how they work in these temps
 
molotov said:
I agree Doc. If temps being to low are an issue, maybe going back to and hid light for these periods is not a bad thing. Just like hot weather makes leds more cost effective because of lower heat emissions, hid in winter might be a better option for eliminating the need for heaters or heating pads etc. Thus offsetting the cost of running and hid somewhat. We are the masters of our little environments as you stated.
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i agree, the bad thing is i sold my 1000w Hid, so thats not a option for me to buy another setup. ill just go with the flow and see what happens? i pulled it off on my 600w led grow this time of the year so i am sure i can do it again. If anything i wont use any TRF and go back to GH or something. If neither TRF work in cold temps and use liquid ferts in the winter time
 
i agree, the bad thing is i sold my 1000w Hid, so thats not a option for me to buy another setup. ill just go with the flow and see what happens? i pulled it off on my 600w led grow this time of the year so i am sure i can do it again. If anything i wont use any TRF and go back to GH or something. If neither TRF work in cold temps and use liquid ferts in the winter time

This is the beauty of it Irish. So many options and choices. I'm sure you'll have it dialed in weather it feels like the Mohave desert or the south pole.
 
molotov said:
i agree, the bad thing is i sold my 1000w Hid, so thats not a option for me to buy another setup. ill just go with the flow and see what happens? i pulled it off on my 600w led grow this time of the year so i am sure i can do it again. If anything i wont use any TRF and go back to GH or something. If neither TRF work in cold temps and use liquid ferts in the winter time

This is the beauty of it Irish. So many options and choices. I'm sure you'll have it dialed in weather it feels like the Mohave desert or the south pole.
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thanks my friend. Shit after dealing with my last grow and those temps i feel i can take on any condition's. The cold dosent worry me, i always get my best yield in the cold, its the heat that worries me. i will not run a 1500w heater for 4 plants so i can use some TRF's, it would then be allot cheaper for me to just use GH nutes in the cold then to use a 1500w heater because some TRF dont work good in the cold. i know my leds will do it, as ive done it before, its the ferts that worry me. i will see how the DM dose and if it seem to not be effective then i will change to nutes ive used in the cold temps many times that i know for fact will work and deal with the labor and extra cost witch isnt nothing because i have full bottle of GH Flora series sitting right here.

Silica is my best friend in these condition's. look at my pics i just posted on my older 1080w grow and tell me those stalks arnt insulated .lol. talk about using a saw to cut ur trees is no joke.lol
 
OK...my temps are from high 60s at night to high 70s during the day (bedroom walk in closet)...and I did a combo with OC+ and Lowes Garden Club (purple bottle)...

I've got 12 little girls going, app 4 inches tall, so far they look the best this newbie has done

Guess Im allright with tempts?
 
Irish., excuse me? You mean my plants look good because of the DM, and not OC+?
...ya know I was following Setting Sun's LED Hempy grow
 
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