Osmocote Plus Plant Food: Discuss Its Use With Cannabis Here!
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It's heaven using tap.
Gives me more time to stare at my plants
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Gives me more time to stare at my plants
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That'll be nice just using tap
With your water being nearly RO out of the tap....TA below 70, etc.
You don't need to pH this water! Mix up your soil and OC+ and add water and molasses, etc.
You're truly blessed to have nice water like that.
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Agreed. My tap is 8.2 and PPM of over 400.
wow, that's some thick water Munki.
How's it taste?
How's it taste?
I have five LR2's going outside in soil.
I thought they were doing fine until I top-dressed them with some Dynamite/purple a couple of days ago.
WOW!
This is good soil too, so it wasn't like they weren't in a good environment.
Their growth just took off, and they look really good.
I burned them some because I sprayed them with Dr. Doom too late in the day when the sun was up, and I guess it makes plants sensitive to light, so they got burned pretty good about a week ago, but since I added the DM, they are recovering fast and looking great.
Just started blooming too. I have one confirmed male, and possibly four girls, so it's going to be a seed run, but I'm only going to pollinate the best female plant.
You know, I'm just about sold 100% on CRF's for general growing. I honesty do not think I could do much better with multiple, more expensive products.
I don't think the difference in labor is worth it.
I'm not sure I have the guts to use them in coco hempies for my next grow, since coco is a new medium to me, but I am so tempted.
I'm going to see what I can find on using CRF's in coco.
DM Purple FTW!
I thought they were doing fine until I top-dressed them with some Dynamite/purple a couple of days ago.
WOW!
This is good soil too, so it wasn't like they weren't in a good environment.
Their growth just took off, and they look really good.
I burned them some because I sprayed them with Dr. Doom too late in the day when the sun was up, and I guess it makes plants sensitive to light, so they got burned pretty good about a week ago, but since I added the DM, they are recovering fast and looking great.
Just started blooming too. I have one confirmed male, and possibly four girls, so it's going to be a seed run, but I'm only going to pollinate the best female plant.
You know, I'm just about sold 100% on CRF's for general growing. I honesty do not think I could do much better with multiple, more expensive products.
I don't think the difference in labor is worth it.
I'm not sure I have the guts to use them in coco hempies for my next grow, since coco is a new medium to me, but I am so tempted.
I'm going to see what I can find on using CRF's in coco.
DM Purple FTW!
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Its alright. I run it through a Brita filter to drink. Most of the dissolved solids are calcium based. The chloramines aren't so great.
Glad you are having good experiences with the CRF. No doubt that it is great for soils.
HorseBadoritz
Well-Known Member
I have five LR2's going outside in soil.
I thought they were doing fine until I top-dressed them with some Dynamite/purple a couple of days ago.
WOW!
This is good soil too, so it wasn't like they weren't in a good environment.
Their growth just took off, and they look really good.
I burned them some because I sprayed them with Dr. Doom too late in the day when the sun was up, and I guess it makes plants sensitive to light, so they got burned pretty good about a week ago, but since I added the DM, they are recovering fast and looking great.
Just started blooming too. I have one confirmed male, and possibly four girls, so it's going to be a seed run, but I'm only going to pollinate the best female plant.
You know, I'm just about sold 100% on CRF's for general growing. I honesty do not think I could do much better with multiple, more expensive products.
I don't think the difference in labor is worth it.
I'm not sure I have the guts to use them in coco hempies for my next grow, since coco is a new medium to me, but I am so tempted.
I'm going to see what I can find on using CRF's in coco.
DM Purple FTW!
I'm probably too stupid to know better, but I just picked up a couple of coco blocks. I was planning on a CRF coco hempy... then I read this!
Hope it doesn't turn out to be guinea pig bedding
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I have five LR2's going outside in soil.
I thought they were doing fine until I top-dressed them with some Dynamite/purple a couple of days ago.
WOW!
This is good soil too, so it wasn't like they weren't in a good environment.
Their growth just took off, and they look really good.
I burned them some because I sprayed them with Dr. Doom too late in the day when the sun was up, and I guess it makes plants sensitive to light, so they got burned pretty good about a week ago, but since I added the DM, they are recovering fast and looking great.
Just started blooming too. I have one confirmed male, and possibly four girls, so it's going to be a seed run, but I'm only going to pollinate the best female plant.
You know, I'm just about sold 100% on CRF's for general growing. I honesty do not think I could do much better with multiple, more expensive products.
I don't think the difference in labor is worth it.
I'm not sure I have the guts to use them in coco hempies for my next grow, since coco is a new medium to me, but I am so tempted.
I'm going to see what I can find on using CRF's in coco.
DM Purple FTW!
ya the DM rocks.. both the red and purple bottle are doing great.. its really a coin toss on witch ones doing better for me, but of course i would pick the purple bottle because it has a better profile.. Glade its working out for you also..
From what I've been reading, Coco tends to bind with/absorb/lock up Calcium and magnesium.
You're supposed to saturate the medium with minerals prior to beginning a grow, or something like that. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've not done much study in the area.
Anyhow, if that's the case, why not add a bit of gypsum, epsom salt and micro's to the coco, water it down a bit, and let it get saturated with all the Ca, Mg, B, Cu, Mn, Mb, Fe, Zn and all the other doodads that our babies love?
Seems a no brainer to me. My pre-plant and weekly micro mixes would do the job nicely, I think.
You're supposed to saturate the medium with minerals prior to beginning a grow, or something like that. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've not done much study in the area.
Anyhow, if that's the case, why not add a bit of gypsum, epsom salt and micro's to the coco, water it down a bit, and let it get saturated with all the Ca, Mg, B, Cu, Mn, Mb, Fe, Zn and all the other doodads that our babies love?
Seems a no brainer to me. My pre-plant and weekly micro mixes would do the job nicely, I think.
What I did with the first brick of coco was to run gallons and gallons of my 145ppm tap water through it, both to rinse out any residual salt, and thinking that the cal/mag in my tap water would fulfill the above requirement you mention.
I'm not sure that the cal/mag in tap water is as readily absorbed as say the calcium/magnesium in a product like Botanicare Cal-Mag, but that was my thinking.
I can see the possibility of the coco drawing the cal/mag nute package out of the prills faster than intended, but that could be remedied easily if it happens.
My hesitation is that coco is almost like something active. It reacts to things in ways I'm not familiar with, so combining it with a CRF, where my ability to make corrections is taken away, is scary because of my inexperience with the medium.
Pre-treating it sounds like a very good idea as regards preventing problems down the line, but it's a lot new variables in one grow, and my next grow isn't just an informal personal grow, so I don't want to screw the pooch, so to speak.
I'm very tempted to do the coco/hempy/CRF though, and part of the reason is that I'm going for max yields in this grow, and from how the OC+ has performed on my current grow, I don't think I can do a significantly better job on yield without using a CRF.
That's how much I'm liking them.
I'm not sure that the cal/mag in tap water is as readily absorbed as say the calcium/magnesium in a product like Botanicare Cal-Mag, but that was my thinking.
I can see the possibility of the coco drawing the cal/mag nute package out of the prills faster than intended, but that could be remedied easily if it happens.
My hesitation is that coco is almost like something active. It reacts to things in ways I'm not familiar with, so combining it with a CRF, where my ability to make corrections is taken away, is scary because of my inexperience with the medium.
Pre-treating it sounds like a very good idea as regards preventing problems down the line, but it's a lot new variables in one grow, and my next grow isn't just an informal personal grow, so I don't want to screw the pooch, so to speak.
I'm very tempted to do the coco/hempy/CRF though, and part of the reason is that I'm going for max yields in this grow, and from how the OC+ has performed on my current grow, I don't think I can do a significantly better job on yield without using a CRF.
That's how much I'm liking them.
I'm probably too stupid to know better, but I just picked up a couple of coco blocks. I was planning on a CRF coco hempy... then I read this!
Hope it doesn't turn out to be guinea pig bedding
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If it was just a personal grow, I wouldn't think twice, but it's a more formal comparison grow, so that makes me hesitate to try things new to me.
Be nice to have at least one grow with that combo under my belt first.
It's not the coco or the CRF's I'm concerned about, it's the combination, and how they might interact.
I need to do more reading on it.
I'll see what I can dig up
Well, from the standpoint of doing comparison grows, using a CRF is extremely attractive also because fertilization would be *very* uniform throughout the grow for all the plants.
Load the same measured dose into each container, water them all equally, and bob's yer uncle.
It removes, or at least greatly lessens that variable very nicely.
Load the same measured dose into each container, water them all equally, and bob's yer uncle.
It removes, or at least greatly lessens that variable very nicely.
i would have to agree. keep things more even and equal IMO. it also keep the grower more out of the scene and just lets the conditions/setup show how each plant dose.
SnowBender
New Member
I have a few in roots 707 coco w/ red DM. So far so good! But they definitely need to be augmented with calmag, imo.
I was already thinking that next time I was going to add some of "DocBuds magic mix" to the containers.
I was already thinking that next time I was going to add some of "DocBuds magic mix" to the containers.
hers a thing to look at.. ive been doing tons of reading on this and it makes things tricky.. most nutes and additives have a certain order they have to be mixed in. sometimes when something is not mixed into the correct order it throes off ur nutes mix. like H2O2 always needs to be mixed 1st, or silica always needs to be mixed 1st before base nutes. ive ready lots of things that say PH needs to be adjust 1st before adding anything, it get very complex.. if you nute mix has any cloudiness when something added you messed up and threw things out of whack. sometimes we cant see it but it still effects our plants.. this is why on most 2 part or 3 part nutes there a certain order things need to be mixed at.. but with so many additives no one could now how things are blending together? thats why its best sometimes to stick with one company's products because they usaly test their own products together.
So by using CRF's you can rest a sure things are going to blend just fine, and you will be putting ur plants in good hands for a side x side.
HorseBadoritz
Well-Known Member
I'm probably too stupid to know better, but I just picked up a couple of coco blocks. I was planning on a CRF coco hempy... then I read this!
Hope it doesn't turn out to be guinea pig bedding
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Your reading comment made me do a little more digging. After a bit of reflection, I think it's the hempy and coco that I'm most wanting to see... CRFs would be nice, but I'm not exactly convinced they are the best thing for indoor pot.
Hempy uses canna nutes with some pretty impressive results. They also make a buffered coco, and they make a buffering solution for coco. Looks like I can get canna a & B for coco, buffering solution and some cal/mag (just in case) for around 60 bucks.
Every time I try to reinvent the wheel, I've found I end up back really doing the inventor's original idea a couple of times, then tweaking, or having a wheel with some corners
I've never dealt with expensive nutes before, so I haven't really been ripped off, so maybe I need to give them some sacrificial bucks so I can get an attitude
Dang, reading is dangerous
You're an offshore fisherman, if I remember right... you catch a grouper, cook it that very same night, nobody, no matter what their station, could have a fresher fish. Nobody. That's what I figger I want out of my pot... 60 bucks???...
Grower Z
New Member
Coir Hempy works well. I've run with a hydroton res and am 6 weeks into bloom with a 60/40 coir/perlite hempy buckets with OC+. I've never run perlite only or perlite/vermiculite hempy buckets, so can't comment on a yield comparison.
One way you can gain a healthy attitude against expensive bottles of pre-mixed fertilizer bottles is to use the less expensive options. i.e. CRF and/or WSF.
Don't let them suck you in with fancy marketing!!
One way you can gain a healthy attitude against expensive bottles of pre-mixed fertilizer bottles is to use the less expensive options. i.e. CRF and/or WSF.
Don't let them suck you in with fancy marketing!!