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You may not be getting much dumping because you top-dressed the CRF into the buckets, and the top 2-3" of the perlite stays a lot drier than farther down.

It may well be that your flushes are giving them what they need, not taking it away.

It's pretty damn hard to overwater a hempy. Why not try smaller flushes more often and see how it goes?

If your temps are high though, it would cause evaporation in the perlite to increase leaving the medium to dry to create an environment for osmosis like SS mentioned. Either way more water = better results so the heck with it.

good points!! i will have to try this and water every day and not only every 2 days. i do have SunShine #4 mix in the buckets, so it dose stay moist. but i see what ur saying since i only toped dressed them they not staying as cool or moist as they would mixed into the medium.. makes sense to me..
 
If your temps are high though, it would cause evaporation in the perlite to increase leaving the medium to dry to create an environment for osmosis like SS mentioned. Either way more water = better results so the heck with it.


yup, especially in the top 2-3" of the media.

These CRF's were designed for soil.

They can be used with soilless media very successfully, but you have to make some adjustments, *especially* if you top-dress with them.

I only top-dressed half of my total dose, and my plants still responded positively to more frequent watering.
 
Since my girls are young I wasn't worried about hurting the roots yet on the edge of the containers so I dug deep to put the OC in and it was dry half way down the bucket. This was after I had watered them 5 hrs earlier. I guess this will give you an idea of how fast the top 1/2 dries out. It was at least 4 to 5 inches down not 2 to 3.
 
I think the moral of this thread is that CRF's rock. They rock really hard!

But, if you've got high temps, you might think about Dynamite. I don't know how they compare at normal temps....but I and a few others can say that OC+ definitely gets the job done....really well!

Honestly, I can't think of a good reason for someone to shell out the hundreds of bucks for the mainstream cannabis nutrient lines. These CRF's work every bit as good or better.
 
Since my girls are young I wasn't worried about hurting the roots yet on the edge of the containers so I dug deep to put the OC in and it was dry half way down the bucket. This was after I had watered them 5 hrs earlier. I guess this will give you an idea of how fast the top 1/2 dries out. It was at least 4 to 5 inches down not 2 to 3.


yup, I was being conservative. If you use chunky perlite, it's definitely more like 4-5" of dry zone.
 
I think the moral of this thread is that CRF's rock. They rock really hard!

But, if you've got high temps, you might think about Dynamite. I don't know how they compare at normal temps....but I and a few others can say that OC+ definitely gets the job done....really well!

Honestly, I can't think of a good reason for someone to shell out the hundreds of bucks for the mainstream cannabis nutrient lines. These CRF's work every bit as good or better.

:amen: i think they all work good.. maybe one works better then the other in high temps? but they are should work great in normal temps and just as good or better then the pricey nutes at the hydro store.. save money and time growing with CRF.. it would be really cool to see how they match up in normal temps. But at-least i have an idea on what i should maybe use in the summer time with my crazy high temps.. but who knows things can always change so we will have to wait until its harvest time. Either way CRF's kick ass and save allot of money and time.
 
One question I still have is: Should I supplement with nutes during flowering at all. I have the whole Botanicare line of nutes suggested by Pit Viper sitting in the garage now. Would using Sweet or liquid karma during bloom help any or just leave in the bottle for a rainy day.
 
One question I still have is: Should I supplement with nutes during flowering at all. I have the whole Botanicare line of nutes suggested by Pit Viper sitting in the garage now. Would using Sweet or liquid karma during bloom help any or just leave in the bottle for a rainy day.

i can tell you u dont need to.. but i chose to use some carbs in flowering still and some green fuse. i know these things help with resin so i add them.. but its not needed. i just feel plants do great with carbs in flowering.
 
Dynamite (by Florikan) was sold to a company called Black Gold
That's why they are discontinuing them at Home Depot for like $3.00
Stock up guys.
My NL's are in a mix of 50/50 OC+/Dynamite and doing fantastic.
 
You know, I noticed the same thing with my plants. When I would do a mini-flush, they would always look better after.

What I'm wondering if that's because the flush washed some of the CRF nutes out, or put more into the medium.

I'm leaning towards the second explanation. In soilless media, it especially makes sense.

I did not do the type of watering cycles with my Sunset Kush plants that I would with soil. I don't think it's a good thing to let the combo of CRF and soilless media dry out too much before watering. Osmosis will not happen without adequate moisture. Think about the difference in water retention between soil and perlite.

That is what it's looking like to me, also. I'd been watering every three days. I keep a skewer in each bucket, I pull it, and if it's damp, I'd wait. I think that contributed to a nitrogen (among other things) difficiency. Watering some every day now has seemed to help.

That's why I'm really excited about running coco hempies.

Hempy has a coco grow journaled over at the i c site. It is nothing short of amazing, to me any way! It's where I'm going next grow.




A company called Florikan, but I read a rumor somewhere that they're selling the Dynamite branch of products to someone else who will continue them, probably under the same Dynamite label.

Peters also makes a TRF that looks promising... micro nutes, but no calcium?!?

:peace:
 
I think Promix/peat-based mix, and oc+ = ideal!

I know all you hydro guys may disagree, and even you hempy dudes, but IMO, the easiest and best way to do things in soil! hehe

Thanks for the discussion guys! Doc summed it up good.

--go
 
I think Promix/peat-based mix, and oc+ = ideal!

I know all you hydro guys may disagree, and even you hempy dudes, but IMO, the easiest and best way to do things in soil! hehe

Thanks for the discussion guys! Doc summed it up good.

--go

I'm all in soil now....it's not as easy as hempy, but it has it's advantages....namely taste.

I think I'll grow one or two hempys....I sure do love the method!
 
i can tell you u dont need to.. but i chose to use some carbs in flowering still and some green fuse. i know these things help with resin so i add them.. but its not needed. i just feel plants do great with carbs in flowering.

Irish, when during the growth stage do you use Green Fuse, how often do you apply it and in what quantities? As for the carbs, what do you use to supplement these? Thanks
 
Irish, when during the growth stage do you use Green Fuse, how often do you apply it and in what quantities? As for the carbs, what do you use to supplement these? Thanks

i dont use GF during the growth stage. they make produces for veg and for roots ive never used them though.. i only use their bloom one. i feed it at least every other feeding at 3/4tsp per gal.

as for carbs ive sed allot of different one but as of now i am using Gro-Tek Carbo-Max.. i like it allot its a dry powder, i like this because i know i am not paying top dollar for water down molasses. i can do 100 gallons for $9.00.. we will have to see how it goes at the end of my grow? still early in flowering.
 
Irish? What kind of coco are you going to use? Explain this whole coco thing if you would.

I have seen some stuff in called a coco-block or something like that, where you just add water to this square compacted thing, and you get this sweet coco stuff, can that be used as well?

Always curious about new mediums...some people say soil is difficult, but I can't even imagine attempting hydro! Funny how that works..

I am interested in this coco stuff though, as it is easy to come by around here, especially in those blocks.

OC+ Rocks...I Was trying to look into dynamite, but couldn't find any locally. Bummer.

Love this thread!!!

-Go
 
this stuff looks like it rocks so...just got some OC+.
My water TA is 65 , PH is 7.3, and ppm is 52. Sound ok for straight tap not PH'd?
I'll be using 70% FFOF to 30% perilite and OC+ with Pure Organic Blackstrap Molasses.

I'm looking to Just Add Water....... Thats it, no more mixing & having to PH all the time.
Thanks for the info :tokin:
 
Irish? What kind of coco are you going to use? Explain this whole coco thing if you would.

I have seen some stuff in called a coco-block or something like that, where you just add water to this square compacted thing, and you get this sweet coco stuff, can that be used as well?

Always curious about new mediums...some people say soil is difficult, but I can't even imagine attempting hydro! Funny how that works..

I am interested in this coco stuff though, as it is easy to come by around here, especially in those blocks.

OC+ Rocks...I Was trying to look into dynamite, but couldn't find any locally. Bummer.

Love this thread!!!

-Go

i think the coco my friend caries is called Royal Gold or something? but Cana coco is good stuff. never used the blocks or known anyone.. i know u add water and it grows like 10x's its size.. this will be my 1st time using coco, do know a whole lot. i do know its uses allot of Cal/mag..
 
this stuff looks like it rocks so...just got some OC+.
My water TA is 65 , PH is 7.3, and ppm is 52. Sound ok for straight tap not PH'd?
I'll be using 70% FFOF to 30% perilite and OC+ with Pure Organic Blackstrap Molasses.

I'm looking to Just Add Water....... Thats it, no more mixing & having to PH all the time.
Thanks for the info :tokin:


Is your tap water really 52ppm? That's really pure tap water. Your other numbers are very close to my tap water, but my ppm is 145.

Straight tap water has worked great for me with OC+ in my current grow. I had been mixing it 50/50 with R/O, but switched back to straight tap water when I started getting a mild mag deficiency.
 
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