Opioid Tapering With Cannabis: A Regimen

Omg super sue ur a life saver :yahoo:glad u got this thread up and running :bravo::cheer:when I have more time this weekend I'll catch up with the rest of this journal but the first page already has a ton of info thanx so much for doing this it will really help me with currently working on getting off of my opioids I've been able 2 drop my oxycodone doses by half on my own but I'm hitting the stage I can't handle the pain without getting some kind of help but I'm not trying to start drinking to block the pain so I figured since I'm already growing i mite as well jus get the right strain and then do whatever i gotta do with it to make something to help with the pain. So if u have any strains tht come to mind please let me know. But yea wishing u the best and :thanks:so much for starting this thread and :Namaste:
 
Blazinjones said:
Omg super sue ur a life saver :yahoo:glad u got this thread up and running :bravo::cheer:when I have more time this weekend I'll catch up with the rest of this journal but the first page already has a ton of info thanx so much for doing this it will really help me with currently working on getting off of my opioids I've been able 2 drop my oxycodone doses by half on my own but I'm hitting the stage I can't handle the pain without getting some kind of help but I'm not trying to start drinking to block the pain so I figured since I'm already growing i mite as well jus get the right strain and then do whatever i gotta do with it to make something to help with the pain. So if u have any strains tht come to mind please let me know. But yea wishing u the best and :thanks:so much for starting this thread and :Namaste:
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Jones..... :hugs: It was instinct that led me to you today. :battingeyelashes: Look for something in a balanced ratio and purple, if you can find that combo. I’ll sniff around and see what I can find.
 
SweetSue said:
Jones..... :hugs: It was instinct that led me to you today. :battingeyelashes: Look for something in a balanced ratio and purple, if you can find that combo. I’ll sniff around and see what I can find.
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Sweet thanx sue well I'm running an auto right now it's a c4 auto from fast buds and it's already showing purple pink and red in its pistals so maybe check tht one out and let me know what u think but yea thank u so much namaste
 
Awesome, SweetSue. Based on the initial articles, this is exactly what I've been looking for! I've yet to read the remaining thread but am looking forward to hearing some inspiring stories or meet some important people.

My Experience:

I too have a strong emotional connection to this issue. It is the driving force behind this labor of love....having lost 3 cousins and their mother(my mom's twin) to overdose over the years, as well my immediate family all addicts of something, to seeing heroin kill the remains of the great city of Detroit and it's surrounding areas, and of course we lost my aunt this holiday season to pills, not sure if intentional she was in an accident and was on high doses on opiates. My family, most unintentional and all from pills. Sure some mixed with alcohol or other pills but the problem remains.

I am infinitely blessed to have family and friends who are now supportive of my decision to use cannabis to taper from opiates and hopefully replace them for pain management in the future.

I'll admit having 6 years active in a 12 step program(AA) that i'm not following a strict medical regimen and because of the Dr alignment problem, coupled with my addictive personality and the stigma in these group environments against medical marijuana this has proven a huge battle of self-will...if you know of these things most times it's a losing battle without some other aspects of recovery, which will play a big part in my success here. Which will determine if I am able to help others. While I believe all ingredients are needed to succeed, I think my personal belief in something larger than myself is this very cause.

I also have heard of a movement known as 'High-Sober?' I believe it to be called, which sounds interesting. Folks who medicate with cannabis but are also self-declared addicts and work a recovery program. Hopefully this has taken hold and we can continue this movement as well. While i don't agree with everything from these programs, they do add something for some people that otherwise is missing and for me turned a 6 time loser and prison recidivist into a professional with a college education, property and tax paying...10 years in prison for drug related non-violent, and this November 18th I will have 10 years free. knock on wood:)
 
'BYE BYE NIGHT SWEATS'
well this isn't specifically cannabis-related, it is natural and SweetSue has asked that I post the recipe here so hopefully it will help some people as it's helped me!

Can thank my wife Aurora for this.

Now we use little roll on balls with coconut carrier oil. Fractured.
10ml bottles.
Add the following :

20 drops Clary sage
10 drops lavender
5 drops frankincense
5 drops peppermint

now what you do is you apply this to your wrists, neck, feet and spine. I apply on the bottom of my feet directly on the skin even though I wear socks all the time.

Since I've been tapering I normally go through three to five sweats per night.

since using this oil it's dropped it down to zero to sometimes two on a very stressful day.

The most important thing however is that it lessens the severity and the duration tremendously.

I used it as a preventative at 6 p.m. around and if I forget I'll use it at the first sweat on set.

Having been doing this for almost a decade now I know my body well and this works excellent.
 
Topical thc oils with lavender essential oils will help with the restless legs and arms. I apply directly as well as to bottom of my feet and back of neck

:thumb:

Here's to taking your life back phenoman
 
TheMadDabber said:
Topical thc oils with lavender essential oils will help with the restless legs and arms. I apply directly as well as to bottom of my feet and back of neck

:thumb:

Here's to taking your life back phenoman
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Thanks MadDabber! I definitely am intrigued by the topicals and that little tip will come in very handy this year!
 
Been subbed in this thread for awhile now, Figured I would finally throw my full opiate story out there. I used to be totally ashamed of it all but have since realized how helpful it can be for others who are struggling to see hope.

My initial injury happened on active duty with a severe compression fracture in my L-5 vertebrae. This led to spinal fusion #1... Screws were misplaced during surgery; leading to fusion #2 a year later. This process repeated a total of 5 times. There always seemed to be another reason to cut me open. Now I'm fused from L-3 to S1.
Whew...
This was the real end to my career. The Navy kept me in, but moved me from law enforcement to be a "career counselor"... At a desk with no real responsibilities. I think this was my demise when it came to opiates.
New gig was at a SEAL team where the doctors weren't really monitored on what they were writing for meds. These 2 years were spent heavily doped up and getting every/any injection or nerve burn known to man. 94 total procedures in that pain clinic. Actually did the spinal cord stimulator implant too. Ugh!
All of this led to my retirement.
I already had significant PTSD but now depression wiped me out too. An ugly side effect of years on opiates mixed with a successful career ended early.
When I retired my scripts were:
100mg Morphine (ER) 4X daily
10mg Oxymorphone (IR) 6X daily
5mg Valium 4X daily
350mg Soma 3X daily
Effexor 1X daily
Mirtazipine 1X daily
Ambien as needed
I was a fucking zombie... Which actually led to me getting thrown in jail for a month over a DWI from driving while on my pills.
That was the last prescription pill I took. I started using cannabis and could not believe the result.
Over the last 18 months I have learned how to grow my own, correct strains for each reason I need it. And have found a great balance.
Now... Working again, family is no longer shattered... Shit, even coach 8 y/o girls softball.
Life is finally good again.

:yummy:
 
Preston9mm said:
Been subbed in this thread for awhile now, Figured I would finally throw my full opiate story out there. I used to be totally ashamed of it all but have since realized how helpful it can be for others who are struggling to see hope.

My initial injury happened on active duty with a severe compression fracture in my L-5 vertebrae. This led to spinal fusion #1... Screws were misplaced during surgery; leading to fusion #2 a year later. This process repeated a total of 5 times. There always seemed to be another reason to cut me open. Now I'm fused from L-3 to S1.
Whew...
This was the real end to my career. The Navy kept me in, but moved me from law enforcement to be a "career counselor"... At a desk with no real responsibilities. I think this was my demise when it came to opiates.
New gig was at a SEAL team where the doctors weren't really monitored on what they were writing for meds. These 2 years were spent heavily doped up and getting every/any injection or nerve burn known to man. 94 total procedures in that pain clinic. Actually did the spinal cord stimulator implant too. Ugh!
All of this led to my retirement.
I already had significant PTSD but now depression wiped me out too. An ugly side effect of years on opiates mixed with a successful career ended early.
When I retired my scripts were:
100mg Morphine (ER) 4X daily
10mg Oxymorphone (IR) 6X daily
5mg Valium 4X daily
350mg Soma 3X daily
Effexor 1X daily
Mirtazipine 1X daily
Ambien as needed
I was a fucking zombie... Which actually led to me getting thrown in jail for a month over a DWI from driving while on my pills.
That was the last prescription pill I took. I started using cannabis and could not believe the result.
Over the last 18 months I have learned how to grow my own, correct strains for each reason I need it. And have found a great balance.
Now... Working again, family is no longer shattered... Shit, even coach 8 y/o girls softball.
Life is finally good again.

:yummy:
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Gave me chills Preston. Thank you for sharing. Sharing gives hope to others. Go coach! :high-five:

May I ask, what specifics can you share about your personal pain management regimen? It's one thing to share that you found freedom and quite another to detail how you stay away from the opiates when you're having a bad day.

In your case I know the choice isn't there, by your deliberate choice. But sharing specifics on your regimen will help us find patterns that we can use when we help others who'll pass through these virtual doors.
 
SweetSue said:
Gave me chills Preston. Thank you for sharing. Sharing gives hope to others. Go coach! :high-five:

May I ask, what specifics can you share about your personal pain management regimen? It's one thing to share that you found freedom and quite another to detail how you stay away from the opiates when you're having a bad day.

In your case I know the choice isn't there, by your deliberate choice. But sharing specifics on your regimen will help us find patterns that we can use when we help others who'll pass through these virtual doors.
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For sure!
So, I'm definitely an all day/every day cannabis user now. Hmm... But I was the same on pills right? (That's a normal response I get from anti-canna folks) Well, lets misspell that myth now. I CAN make it through a day without my buds, but could not EVER do that on opiates. The comparison is like apples & assault rifles. LoL Herb just doesn't destroy my world like pills did. That being said, here's my normal "daily regimen"
Wake n bake with a good strong sativa. I wake up in a ton of pain from sleeping on my back all night. Indica helps my pain more, but I gotta function and keep my motivation up. This helps the depression too.
Sativa strains can sometimes aggravate my anxiety, so I will dial back the high a bit with CBD oil under tongue. Level headed by 8 am for work.
I generally go all day at work without medicating at all.
Depending on my plans for the night, I will decide which strain I smoke when I get home from work. A sativa or hybrid if I got shit to do, or a dank indica if I'm whooped and just wanna chill TF out.
Bedtime is generally a fat dab of Blueberry wax to assist in sleep and restless leg syndrome.
It's a balancing act.
I generally smoke dried flower out of a 12" bong. One hit... Then move on with my day. Occasionally I'll get blazed, but mostly use herb clinically? I guess?
Most notably, I have just noticed an overall better QOL. Eating better, sleeping better, better attitude about life. When these things are in line, my pain & depression seem like more of an annoyance than a crippling disability.

In the end, none of my conditions are 100% under control but 100% of my conditions are better with cannabis than prescriptions.
 
Preston9mm said:
For sure!
So, I'm definitely an all day/every day cannabis user now. Hmm... But I was the same on pills right? (That's a normal response I get from anti-canna folks) Well, lets misspell that myth now. I CAN make it through a day without my buds, but could not EVER do that on opiates. The comparison is like apples & assault rifles. LoL Herb just doesn't destroy my world like pills did. That being said, here's my normal "daily regimen"
Wake n bake with a good strong sativa. I wake up in a ton of pain from sleeping on my back all night. Indica helps my pain more, but I gotta function and keep my motivation up. This helps the depression too.
Sativa strains can sometimes aggravate my anxiety, so I will dial back the high a bit with CBD oil under tongue. Level headed by 8 am for work.
I generally go all day at work without medicating at all.
Depending on my plans for the night, I will decide which strain I smoke when I get home from work. A sativa or hybrid if I got shit to do, or a dank indica if I'm whooped and just wanna chill TF out.
Bedtime is generally a fat dab of Blueberry wax to assist in sleep and restless leg syndrome.
It's a balancing act.
I generally smoke dried flower out of a 12" bong. One hit... Then move on with my day. Occasionally I'll get blazed, but mostly use herb clinically? I guess?
Most notably, I have just noticed an overall better QOL. Eating better, sleeping better, better attitude about life. When these things are in line, my pain & depression seem like more of an annoyance than a crippling disability.

In the end, none of my conditions are 100% under control but 100% of my conditions are better with cannabis than prescriptions.
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Thank you Preston. What I see missing is a good topical. MadDabber mentioned that one with lavender oil drops (I use Dave Groomer’s measurements of 20 drops of essential oil for every 2 cups of infused oil) will tamp down restless leg.

My first gift of a topical cream was to another member, also a SEAL retiree with inoperable osteo screws, and after his first application he got his first restful nap in two decades.

My advice is make yourself a topical and use it liberally and proactively.

And thank you again.

No capsules in that regimen? Capsules may allow you to microdose for the day and help you have less of those days when you just want to pull back and lose the pain.
 
Evening @SweetSue, I believe I met you quite recently in a lovely garden I was admiring but for the life of me can't remember as my year was going so well until last week.

And I met another gentleman who you are acquainted with @Preston9mm
And another fine gentleman said I should pop round and say hi @Guy Cavallero

Please allow me to catch up this evening as I've seen how fast your threads and journals explode with new topics and 420 friends....:thanks:
 
Smeegol said:
Evening @SweetSue, I believe I met you quite recently in a lovely garden I was admiring but for the life of me can't remember as my year was going so well until last week.

And I met another gentleman who you are acquainted with @Preston9mm
And another fine gentleman said I should pop round and say hi @Guy Cavallero

Please allow me to catch up this evening as I've seen how fast your threads and journals explode with new topics and 420 friends....:thanks:
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Evening Smeegol. Take your time. I'll be around. :hugs:
 
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