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[Weaselcracker]

....a blog exposes them to a broader audience.

How is the blog audience a greater one? Isn't it the same as a journal but even more tucked away? Because a blog is more accessible than a 100 page journal and when people look at your profile they might just check your blog first? And because a blog has more nuggets of good info less cluttered by chitchat and stuff?

 

[SweetSue]

You got it. Concentrated data. Meat and potatoes stuff.

 

[Tead]

We glimpsed it coming and everyone freaked out and dove frantically in all directions, dropping joints, coffees, and tools as we landed in the mud trying to dodge the deadly bales, which of course were as light as a feather.

Spewing coffee as I read it. Awesome! Isn't it just great to have such stories under one's belt?
My construction screw ups are not nearly as fun. Perhaps one will come along... but I can't imagine topping the foam story.

 

[Robert Celt]

Morning Weasel

Popping in to catch up and say Hi

Reading your story about construction, I had to laugh. I worked construction all my life as well, and though I didn't smoke, I remember lots of things we did before the industry went "safety crazy" that we'd be hung for now LOL

 

[Mello136]

G'morning WC!

 

[Kriaze]

OK I guess somebody has to bite the bullet and offer a little of 'quack' medicine here to help you out Weaselcracker. I'll understand if everyone has a good laugh and points at me but I swear by this information that I stumbled across awhile ago and whether it works or not (it should as it's been studied by the reputable British journal of Pharmacology) it definitely does the trick for me.

As I may have mentioned in the past I do suffer from bouts of anxiety at times, it can be outside where I think people are giving me funny looks, inside sat watching TV or even sometimes when I'm at my keyboard with fingers hovering over the keys to continue my ramblings before hitting the most used key on my keyboard, the 'delete' key. The anxiety was diagnosed as a part of my PTSD and it's hard to admit suffering from it when I consider myself a manly man, a Raging Viking even when I'm in the mood, although I do like to consider myself as a sensitive intelligent human being at other times too.

Now for me it doesn't matter whether a smoke is Sativa or Indica as like many people, I never really knew the difference myself until fairly recently, all I know is that sometimes when I smoke a weed it can induce my state of anxiety and then it's usually a case of hospital treatment due to the seriousness of it (my heart actually beats irregularly when it happens) but nowadays I rarely suffer from it. I had a bout a couple of weeks back but I wasn't smoking at the time, realistically it never happens if I'm smoking anymore and it's all down to wait for it...Black Pepper lol.

Silly as it sounds there has been some research done on the effects of terpines in plants and fruits and their interactions with tetrahydrocannabinol and it has been found that the terpines in Black Pepper, alpha-pinene and caryophyllene which has been researched by the medical industry for use against bronchitis, multiple sclerosis, anxiety and depression amongst other things interacts with the terpines of the MJ plant and counteracts the effects of anxiety and paranoia.

Some people chew it before smoking and some people prefer just a few sniffs of it during smoking for almost immediate relief, I am one of the latter and I find that it not only helps, but that I don't even have anything for it to help. A few sniffs of this and I can smoke all night happily and with the nice mellow mood that I truly enjoy. Yes I know, it sounds relatively stupid and much like snake oil, but then again what people were saying about MJ and it's medicinal benefits were pretty much along the same lines until quite recently don't you think?

So in answer to your question as to which Indica would be a great smoke without the anxiety I will have to opt for ANY. Don't be afraid to try something new and if it doesn't work for you then apologies for having unintentionally misguided you, but it will cost nothing except maybe a sneeze or two if you get too close

Personally I now know which strains are which, yet I still smoke any that is on hand, just so long as I have some black peppercorns and a grinder nearby (I have Black Pepper all around my house now, even as I sit here typing something out that may sound so strange and stupid to some and which I would never have considered writing while in an anxious condition). Of course you could take it all with a pinch of salt (pun intended sorry) but to be sure there is no harm in trying. The Mycene terpine in mangoes apparently does the same trick but needs to be ingested an hour before smoking, pepper is much cheaper and once I tried it a few times while the anxiety was actually kicking in I found that this is my way to go. If it works then maybe you could consider letting any of your patients know about this little lifesaver, it may need more research but for me it was well worth trying.

Apologies for the long post Weaselcracker, but I like to help out and as I've used it myself for awhile now I feel no shame in letting you know. Sending best wishes and hoping that you are well in mind, body and spirit. Much love brother

 

[Mello136]

I have to say that I get these bouts of anxiety exactly how you describe it. Sometimes when I smoke certain weed it happens to me. Recently I smoke Girl Scout Cookies and became so anxious I had to tell company to leave, because I thought they were behaving strangely and were making me uncomfortable. I've never talked to a doc about it and never mentioned it to family or friends. I have to admit I've been trying to ignore it. You made me realize that I shouldn't do that and that something really is wrong with my nervous system or what have you.

 

[Kriaze]

I have to say that I get these bouts of anxiety exactly how you describe it. Sometimes when I smoke certain weed it happens to me. Recently I smoke Girl Scout Cookies and became so anxious I had to tell company to leave, because I thought they were behaving strangely and were making me uncomfortable. I've never talked to a doc about it and never mentioned it to family or friends. I have to admit I've been trying to ignore it. You made me realize that I shouldn't do that and that something really is wrong with my nervous system or what have you.

Hello Mello, sorry to hear that you suffer the same issues that I have experienced too, we aren't alone in suffering but don't feel ashamed to talk to your doctor about it or indeed your friends and family. If it's happening only when smoking cannabis then there's nothing wrong with at least trying the Black Pepper or Mango solution during those periods. If it is happening outside of smoking times then it could be due to an underlying problem, and without meaning to sound like I know what I'm talking about (I don't know much) I would definitely suggest that you talk to a doctor. There should be no social stigma when it comes to these things, they are real and if people cannot empathise with or try to understand that then they are not worthy of your attention. There is a great group for PTSD sufferers on this site which I have been tempted to join myself, but as it is mainly American Veterans I feel like I would be an outsider or intruding, if you are from over the pond it may well be a great place to find yourself on one of these particular days/nights. Failing that I am always open to discussion be it on my thread or in pm, apologies to Weaselcracker for my hijacking of his thread whilst he is probably sleeping. Maybe I should nudge that squirrel and have it throw a few nuts at him to wake him up

Please never feel alone in this though, there are many people suffering the same symptoms all who will understand. I wish you all the best and I'm pushing some good karma your way. All the best Mello

 

[Mello136]

He's still battling his squirrel issues?

Thanks for the words of confidence Kriaze! It happens outside of smoking as well but when I smoke I notice it and feel it heightened, and its only certain strains. Like Sour D won't, Sour D just unlocks my brain somehow. I feel however that the strains that do provoke the feelings help me deal with it more appropriately as for when I'm not stoned and I get an attack, I don't know what to do with myself.

 

[Kriaze]

The squirrel is alive and kicking Mello, I'm pretty sure it heard me and lobbed a few nuts at old Weaselcracker's head as we spoke lol. Personally I find that smoking now helps me a lot, much more than any of the medication that the doctors were trying me on. I was walking around like a zombie and if that's the case then I'd rather feel alive with the odd bout of anxiety. Hopefully though with all the new research that is going on things will become a lot clearer in regards to both anxiety and the medicinal effects of terpines. My offer stands, if ever you feel in need of someone to talk to I have broad shoulders waiting to share the weight of your fears. I hope that you can control the bouts and if that means smoking some weed to do so then by all means light up anytime. All the best

 

[Mello136]

Biggest issue I have with talking with the doc is them damn meds they put you on. I'm good. No zombified dad around my kids. Might as well be a deadbeat dad. I'll be damned some pills are going to ruin my relationship with myself and my family. Search for this thread "Utterly Disrespectful" I believe I was having a bit of an anxious moment there but only time will tell.

 

[Kriaze]

On my way to check that thread out Mello and I agree wholeheartedly on the medication the doctors give out. I lasted less than a week on mine and refused to partake of any more. I'm off to check out your thread

 

[Weaselcracker]

This is such an awesome conversation to wake up to. I always grab my phone and check 420 when my alarm goes off. It's the only way I know to wake up and get my bloodshot eyes unglued, as I stare at the screen trying to make out the words and things slowly and painfully come into focus and after a few minutes I'm awake. I Hate waking up, but I'm interested enough in what's going on in my subscriptions that I can get my eyes pried open and let the light from the screen shine into my confused brain.
This subject is dear to my heart, though thats probably a strange way of putting it. A fair chunk of my life was lived in a sort of mental hell, and very time I've gotten anywhere near any sort of doctor/psychologist/healer type, they've told me I have PTSD. They're always so excited to catch this interesting specimen for further study but I have a well developed flight response and at this age figure I can manage one way or another by myself. Especially since I know they want to strap me down and pour antidepressants down my throat. No need to fear writing about struggles on this journal, it's basically what this journal is about.
Actually- you guys can write whatever the hell you want! Please. Seems like that's what I do.

 

[Mello136]

You see, that is exactly what I mean. The best thing for me to calm my nerves and get grounded is sitting in my garden amazed at what I have begun! Thanks WC, your the best! Also, I am sorry for highjacking your thread even though you say it's ok, it is still bad form.

 

[Kriaze]

Hey hey Weaselcracker, good morning to you sir and thank you for the having this thread that allows us to chat and meet other like souls. I refused the medications on offer and now they want me to undergo some high intensity CBD which will apparently have no medication on offer, I will give it a try as I'm game for trying anything, but also likewise I have lived this way for so long that I'm not sure I want to be a 'new' person. As for the Black Pepper it may or may not work for all, even if it is a placebo it does work for me. Although believe it or not I am quite scientifically minded and I can understand how it would work in theory. But as I said it really does work for me

I've just searched for 'Utterly Disrespectful' and the search engine in it's own usual helpful way has brought me 1-8 of 12 posts, with no way of bringing up the other posts that are supposedly there and neither of those that are have been posted originally by Mello, or am I missing something, is it in fact contained inside those 8 posts available? The Sherlock Holmes in me says that I should investigate, it's probably all elementary my dear Dr Watson.

Here's to a great day ahead for you all and also thanks Weaselcracker for being so open in regards of your PTSD. It makes people like myself feel much better knowing that we are not alone, although I would wish a cure upon us all if it were possible. I believe that after 28 years of using it that MJ is the best relief I can get, even more so now that I understand I don't have to suffer anxiety attacks while smoking

All the best to you, and again thanks for making such an open minded thread...better watch out though you may get a few whacko's in here <saunters off whistling>

 

[Weaselcracker]

it is still bad form.

No it's not

 

[Mello136]

Wackos!!!!

 

[Mello136]

Sorry Kriaze, the mods must of changed the name to my thread to "Smoke in the face" and didn't let me know.

 

[Kriaze]

Sorry Kriaze, the mods must of changed the name to my thread to "Smoke in the face" and didn't let me know.

Hey thanks Mello, I actually got into reading a great book through looking at the other search results so it seems that fate must have happened upon me so that I could see that particular thread. I'll be off to search for your new titled thread now and I feel better knowing that even Sherlock Holmes would have struggled to find that one

 

[Weaselcracker]

I googled the black pepper thing Kriaze, and came up with so many interesting looking articles but this definitely proves you're not crazy (about the pepper I mean). That's extremely interesting! When I get a safe space I'll try smoking some of those strains that I grow but haven't even dared to try yet.
I do appreciate the talk about the subject. I think that people are quite easily conditioned, as can be plainly seen by looking at around at the world.
I think that making it through a hellish experience or two is one thing.
Wondering/wandering around for years feeling suicidal and fucked up is another.
Getting through that but living with deeply ingrained and slightly fucked up attitudes is another.
But I also think that over time if we keep trying, strangely, our curses can become blessings in disguise.