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[AKgramma]

I grow the sativa for the smokers in the family, but I don't like the high when I ingest it. So I am waiting on some Bubbelicious seeds (Indica) from Nirvana, which I ordered based on it's odor, sweetness, short life cycle, and pain relief for myself. I will, however keep growing the sativa, because I know what to expect from it, and my family likes it. Plus, each generation of clones has given me better, more vigorous plants.

I have not been successful in revegging after harvesting. The branches and roots have just dried out, in spite of being returned to the veg tent and being treated just like the other ladies in waiting. I need to know your secret to revegging. I tried 3 times without success, even when I left some baby branches on them.

What problems do you encounter when smoking Indica?

 

[Weaselcracker]

I don't have any secrets for revegging. I first heard someone mention Pigeons doing it when he was revegging his Hog, and that's how I met him. I think the only tip I remember from him that served me well, was to be careful with the watering. It's worth letting the harvest plant get quite dry before harvesting, because if it's soaked down, from flushing or whatever, and you try to do a reveg, you've suddenly got a smallish plant with very little real foliage which is not going to transpire much water, and is going to probably rot. Treat it like a small plant and baby it with the watering. I can't claim to have much knowledge though. The revegs I did were easy. I just put them in veg and left them there and they did their thing.
A couple plants I did remove from the pots, cut the rootball back a bunch and repot into fresh mix. This was so they'd have fresh medium and not be so rootbound. I suppose it could help them reveg too, since by the time the plants are flushed and harvested the soil/medium is bound to be a bit depleted and compacted.
The first Mama Thai pheno I grew was the biggest and best, and the whole time it was flowering, I intended to reveg it. Then at harvest time I just plain forgot and went and chopped it down by reflex. Oops!

It seems like when I smoke indica I struggle with paranoia. Like my third eye opens with awful clarity and I'm looking at my life with a deep uneasiness feeling that 'something is wrong'.
On top of that it makes me very confused, and I spend a lot of time losing and forgetting things, searching for them, and then in the middle of searching - realizing that I can't even remember what the hell it is that I am searching for! This should be funny but it usually isn't!


A classic scenario is this; I smoke a bunch, and a couple minutes later think "Wow that's good I think I'll smoke some more!" Then I go to pick up my pipe ... "Hmmm where did I put my pipe?"
Then anxiety starts to kick in, and paranoia strikes. "Oh god where did I leave my pipe?!!" So I start looking for it, more and more frantically. Then I come to a point where I suddenly realize that I can't remember what the fuck I am looking for! I just know that if someone comes along to visit I'm going to be in no fit shape to be seen, and I should flee!! Immediately!!
Then I suddenly remember that my pipe is probably sitting somewhere incriminating and I must find it before I can properly flee, so I start chasing my tail again.
Eventually I find the pipe somewhere stupid and smoke more and do it all over again. Etc etc.
Oh yeah, then I get really hungry and eat too much. But I do sometimes have nice guitar jams when I settle down a bit.
I hope those days are well behind me now. except for the guitar playing part.

I get a bit longwinded sometimes...


The revelations and thoughts that come to me from the high can be good but I find that I have trouble remembering/realizing them the next day anyway. I feel like it takes me to the same place every time and I go through the same cycles each time only to forget after, lol.
It's just my personality I suppose- i shouldn't take it seriously, but I find the forgetfulness and confusion and paranoia very hard on the self esteem and I beat myself up over it. I like to be able to think clearly. Despite some things I do like about the indica high, I often end up feeling depressed and shitty after, which is hardly a good thing.
Sativa has the opposite effect for me. I feel happy and like I can function and think. If I'm slightly impaired it's in a good way and not crippling. I can also smoke as much as I want and not have my brain totally short out.
Like I said, maybe I'll find a good indica strain for sleep and pain. I wouldn't mind a heavily narcotic smoke at bedtime, if it made me feel happy and content.

 

[AKgramma]

Ingesting MJ during the day is not something I would do, as I need to be alert. But dried and put into capsules and taken an hour before bed would give me a good night's sleep. I will let you know, after I get my capsules, and when I have the BBL leaves dried and encapsulated, which strain of the two works best for me and why. I have lots of dried OG Kush (S) to try first. I believe in whole-plant medicine and don't get the highs with uncarbolated leaves plus shake that smokers do for buds.

I'm terrible at baking edibles, and even worse at oil extraction, so have chosen to try the capsule method. For now, I drink the alcohol and MJ brew/tincture right from the jar with a soda pop chaser. NASTY TASTE! LOL! No getting high, but I trust the cannabinoids are very healthful. And it DOES have a sedative effect on my arthritis.

I appreciate being able to brainstorm with you, since we both grow Sativas, and you have more experience with various strains, and get feedback from patients. Reading your Journal has given me more confidence in my own perpetual grow.

 

[lexort420]

Hey weasel you might wanna try growing C99. Ive always been told its a sativa high but grows like a indica and flower about as long as a indica. Just a thought, its on my try in future list lol

 

[Tead]

I spend a lot of time losing and forgetting things, searching for them, and then in the middle of searching - realizing that I can't even remember what the hell it is that I am searching for! This should be funny but it usually isn't!

My sweetie and I just purchased a fixer-upper a while back, and I'm doing a good portion of the work myself. I've been burning for many decades and don't let these sorts of work issue interrupt my smoking schedule.
I have THIS EXACT problem. Can you imagine how it plays out in a large house under construction? I can't even begin to tell you how much time I waste just looking for tools.
It's becoming quite frustrating. I need a bowl....

 

[chenzi]

Hey Wease, Have you tried Purple Trainwreck ?
It's pretty much my staple these days, great for pain and still able to function, great for getting a good night's sleep, and a 60 dayer
No paranoia, well, not for me, but probly not a wake and bake.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Hey weasel you might wanna try growing C99. Ive always been told its a sativa high but grows like a indica and flower about as long as a indica. Just a thought, its on my try in future list lol

I'll quiz JoJo about that one Lex. Thank you.

 

[lexort420]

No problem and o ya jojo would know duh! Lol

 

[Weaselcracker]

My sweetie and I just purchased a fixer-upper a while back, and I'm doing a good portion of the work myself. I've been burning for many decades and don't let these sorts of work issue interrupt my smoking schedule.
I have THIS EXACT problem. Can you imagine how it plays out in a large house under construction? I can't even begin to tell you how much time I waste just looking for tools.
It's becoming quite frustrating. I need a bowl....

I don't have to work hard to imagine that, Tead! A lot of my employment comes from building, less so now but that was my main trade for a while. One huge house in particular- the guy we were building it for is a close friend and he is about the most functional mega-chronic smoker I know. The crew (us) was pretty chronic too. I worked on that place for years. In hindsight we all agreed that at least $100,000 extra was spent because we smoked waaay too much. Every morning we'd be passing around three or four fatties as dawn cracked on the building site and we still hadn't even downed our morning coffees yet. Those crack of dawn smokes would hit us hard and we'd be glassy eyed and confused, all be trying hard to act like we had it together, when we couldn't even see. It could be stressful...
I remember one morning the whole crowd was standing in the regular early morning smoking spot in the driveway, smoking and talking with coffees in hand. There was a 12' high stack of bundles of rigid foam insulation behind us and it chose that moment to topple. We glimpsed it coming and everyone freaked out and dove frantically in all directions, dropping joints, coffees, and tools as we landed in the mud trying to dodge the deadly bales, which of course were as light as a feather.
Lots of mistakes were made. Some of them pretty epic. We had fun though and it has turned out to be an amazing house.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Hey Wease, Have you tried Purple Trainwreck ?
It's pretty much my staple these days, great for pain and still able to function, great for getting a good night's sleep, and a 60 dayer
No paranoia, well, not for me, but probly not a wake and bake.

Hey chenzi. Thanks for stopping by and for the tip! I'll check that out too, and snoop around your journal a little

 

[chenzi]

Hey chenzi. Thanks for stopping by and for the tip! I'll check that out too, and snoop around your journal a little

You talkin bout building sites and weed is too funny man
My background is construction also, I remember building some horse stables for an old neighbor who Rolled continuously whilst we were working, he tried to offer us one just before we put the roof on, sorry man, I don't wanna fall off !!!!
Please do pop by my journal sir, I would be honoured to have you're presence

 

[DankWolf907]

Heya WC!
Seen your name pop up more then enough times, always with something good to say..
Not sure what took me so long to venture this way, but im here now!
...if you dont mind

 

[SweetSue]

Weaselcracker.... ..... Good grief, I laugh so hard reading through the previous couple days that I feel renewed when I get to the end. And you weren't going to do a journal.

Love the new avatar look. I imagine that indicates a truce is still in effect?

I share your desire to avoid indica strains. Having smoked sativas now I realize that what we were smoking off the street was heavily indica, and accounts for much of my frustration in getting high for most of my adult life. Mostly, I have no desire to wind down and fall asleep or to have the munchies.

The realization that I could indulge all I wanted and I wouldn't empty the pantry or pass out on the couch was transformational. I suppose I'll try one for bedtime somewhere along the line, but to be honest, late nights are my most productive time and the sativas feed that. They tell me sleep is a good thing, though, so maybe......

 

[Weaselcracker]

Heya WC!
Seen your name pop up more then enough times, always with something good to say..
Not sure what took me so long to venture this way, but im here now!
...if you dont mind

Hi D. Wolf. Welcome! Cool. I've seen you around here and there as well.
Lots of room left here for friends. I don't know how this stuff works but I'm pretty sure the journal can handle quite a few more of us chattering away here before circuits overload at 420 headquarters and the admins get mad(der) at me and have to smack me (again).

 

[Weaselcracker]

I totally relate Sue. As I think I was saying on the landrace genetics thread, I shared with Bapple the experience of going most of my life not actually knowing the difference between indica and sativa, and what that meant to my life. When I first started smoking in early 80s in BC, it was almost all sativa from Thailand and Jamiaca. I didn't know that it was sativa, or what sativa was, but I was quite happy smoking it. Then indica herb started coming in more from California and north, then BC- and everything changed for me. Over the next 20 or 30 years (!) I had lots of bad experiences with pot, and eventually all but quit smoking the stuff and stuck with hash, which I found quite a bit more tolerable, when I could get it. Kind of funny how I 'kept trying' to smoke the stuff, in spite of the issues I had with it! Pretty heroic of me hey? (pat on the back).
We didn't seem to have fancy things like 'strains' with the street stuff. It was just 'pot' and it was always just 'really good shit, man', and we took what we could get without ever wondering much about the details.
It was only a couple years ago that it all came together for me and I had the EPIC REALIZATION of what had happened. I went for decades thinking that something had altered in my brain, rendering me unable to handle smoking herb. All along it was the herb itself that had changed.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Sue, if you're still around ?, or next time you are - I have a stupid question, since you're my go to girl for this sort of thing. Or maybe somebody else can answer it. It's about the 'blog' aspect of the site. I barely know/ don't know what it is about. I see that I can 'blog this post'. Does this just mean it gets copied and archived in my (nonexistent) blog?
Part of the reason I'm wondering at the moment is because I'm wondering if it would be a good place to archive the strain recommendations people have given to me, (which includes your Strawberry Blue of course). I don't see a good way of compiling and updating a list here, and thought maybe this blog thingamajig might work (?).

 

[lexort420]

Im curious about the blog thing too

 

[SweetSue]

Sue, if you're still around ? Or next time you are. I have a stupid question, since you're my go to girl for this sort of thing. Or maybe somebody else can answer it. It's about the 'blog' aspect of the site. I barely know/ don't know what it is about. I see that I can 'blog this post'. Does this just mean it gets copied and archived in my (nonexistent) blog?
Part of the reason I'm wondering at the moment is because I'm wondering if it would be a good place to archive the strain recommendations people have given to me, (which includes your Strawberry Blue of course). I don't see a good way of compiling and updating a list here, and thought maybe this blog thingamajig might work (?).

Once you blog something it creates a blog area under your name and linked through your profile. Essentially, it's like a filing cabinet. I haven't worked out the intricacies yet, but there are a couple things I have figured out.
- When you copy it, the title will be nothing more than a copy of the post listing. You want to change that to more specifically note what it was you were saving, i.e., "strain recommendations: vlad". Do you understand what I'm referring to here?

- At any time you can edit the blog, including the title, by clicking on the pencil icon. This allows you to compile that list you're talking about in one blog by copying and pasting onto the existing blogged list.

- I haven't mastered using tags yet, but I try to remember to tag it at least one way. One of the reasons you blog this stuff is to be able to find it. I'm old school - I scan and speed read. LOL! I can read much faster than I can type, and you see how much typing I can get done. The better you tag the easier it is for others to find and also use. If it was worth blogging it's worth making it easy to find, eh? Like I said, I'm still challenged here, and in a pinch I just dump and run.

It's a great way to save the stuff you keep digging up to share. I have a couple write-ups that get posted repeatedly, and this is where I store them. It's fun to wander through the data fields and see what others find important enough to blog. It's still relatively unexplored in my world. Future adventures waiting for me to find the time.

 

[SweetSue]

I forgot to mention, you can use the blog function to actually blog your own thoughts. Write it up, post it and blog it. Where posting on your journal reaches your subscribers and any visitors wandering through to enjoy your great wit from the shadows, saving those brilliant thoughts on a blog exposes them to a broader audience.

 

[Weaselcracker]

Thanks so much Sue!
This sounds like exactly what I need.
Is it strange that the site doesn't come with some sort of instructions? Or does it?
Or maybe it's just me who is clueless about how this stuff works and has to fumble around here and go by trial and error.
I'm not complaining. It's kind of fun. But I will be slapping myself if someone comes along and says 'What? You haven't seen the help/how-to section of the site?'