OG's Hi Brix Organic: LEDs, Perpetual Harvest

Ok so my "rescue drench"ed three big pots are almost dried out.
Some questions:
How do you guys decide when it is time to water next in bloom? Top 2" of soil dry? Or some other way? You don't want to let them wilt like in veg right?
Since they got rescue drench last time, they get 1/4 transplant this time right? So how do I go about that? Flush first then pour the 1/4 trans on top? Like maybe pour 5 gallons of plain RO water letting the run off drain out, then pouring the 1/4 trans on right after that?
When you say 1/4 trans you mean 1/4 strength trans with 1/4 strength Tea right?

Thanks!
 
Hey OG! I'm in #10's and water/feed every 3 days in bloom. I think lots of people do it that way. I do not give 1/4 trans but it's my understanding that you water as normal and cut the trans by 1/4 I.e if you normally give 10ml, then only give 2.5 and I don't think you add tea. Sorry my answer is not definitive but I'm pretty sure it's correct, maybe just wait for someone to confirm.

Edit to add that Cat is mostly trans so you may want to give em straight RO.....?

Rock on!

:theband:
 
I answered over in Doc's IN THE LAB thread.

I'm with Weenmeoff, I water every 3 days in bloom.

I use transplant in flower before the cationic drenches at the same strength as the GE in early flower, 5ml per 7gallons of soil.

When I did 10 gallons I fed at the same rate, mostly because I was to lazy too check whether it was a 10gal or 7gal pot each time.

More details in the other answer :) ==> In the Lab with Doc Bud
 
Here's how they look 3 days after the rescue drench. I cut some of the brown leaves off but a lot of them don't really have stems to cut...
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Am I seeing hash tips, OG?

So in a day or two, they'll get just water with a 1/4 dose of Trans. No foliars.

The new growth seems good - decent color and posture. They should get better. The one looks pretty far gone, but it might yield some good produce from the stress. :cheesygrinsmiley:

We'll see what things look like in another week.

:Namaste:
 
OttawaGreen said:
Oh then yes, slightly too much light.
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Aha. I had a hunch.

Contrary to popular opinion, there is such a thing as too much light. :cheesygrinsmiley: I discovered this myself with 1000+ watts of blurples in a 4x4. The problem comes when the rest of the environment has a weak link or the plants have some small issue, and then all that light just amplifies everything. The plant runs past itself, can't keep things running smoothly. I also learned that when you have really strong light, you have to keep the humidity way up, too.

I was startled by the improvement from lowering the intensity.

Something to consider.

:Namaste:

And yes, I'd put off the Brix foliar for another week unless they start to look happy again. Maybe a 1/2 strength DeStress in a few days if you get an itchy trigger finger. :cheesygrinsmiley:


[Edit] Forgot to answer the dry soil question. Yes, in bloom it's better to keep the soil from drying out completely. But the cycle becomes pretty obvious in the first few weeks, so you lift a pot or two for heft, decide whether it should be today or tomorrow. Catch them before they show the signs that way. Sometimes you have to give the top some water if the room gets dry or the plants are really surging.
 
Graytail said:
I use 4 bags of store-bought generic black tea and one bag of Constant Comment in about a quart of boiling water. :cheesygrinsmiley: Then I dilute it with enough water to fill a beer pitcher to keep in the fridge. (I'm bad - I sweeten with aspertame).

But if you mean what do we feed to our plants, it's just called "Tea" - part of Doc Bud's HiBrix Blend - a living soil, organic method.
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OttawaGreen said:
I wonder if my ozone generator is making plants unhappy...
I keep it only making as much as needed to kill the smell not to smell like ozone, but maybe they don't like it.
Will have to do some testing .
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Ozone should accelerate growth in the day time and potentially retard respiration in the night time.
 
:hmmm:

My first thought was "hell no!". :laugh: But ... :hmmmm:

It's just that they're sooo crispy. But I put myself in your position, and remembered when some of mine looked like that ...

You're what, a few weeks away from chop? So not a lot of time left. We aren't interested in new leaf growth ... we want calyxes with enough sugar leaf to support them. The soil has been getting too much nutrition, so the plant has been feeding directly, bypassing the critters, and their population has fallen off. More plant food won't help the critters - you have to shift the root exudates back to feeding them. (I'm typing as I think it through so you can see my train of thought). We can alter the exudates with foliars and drenches. If we spray with Brix, the exudates shift to a mix that would be appropriate for a surging healthy plant - more feed from the biota, support-based. If we spray with DeStress, the exudates shift to support repair and metabolism. :hmmm:

That plants are obviously having trouble with nitrogen uptake ... so how do we get the biota to provide the right nitrogen for the roots? If we drench with GE at this stage, it won't help the biota hook up but with only a few weeks left, do we care? You may not have time to get the roots and biota back on speaking terms.

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Ok, here's what I would be tempted to do. Commit to bringing them in on GE - screw the biota and just feed the plants. But I doubt that will make the plants look any better - it'll just bring 'em home. :straightface: Give them a foliar now of half strength DeStress just to keep things in tune until the GE/Tea drench. Skip Brix. After that GE, do a Brix foliar.

Shift the focus to calyxes - building them and frosting them up. Cat drench might be something to think about, since the leaves are well toasted already. ... :hmmm: ... That would shift everything to calyx growth ... They'd get even worse looking, but we're growing trichs now, not leaves ...

But this is free-wheeling advice. Please don't blame me if you follow it and it turns out to be disappointing. :Namaste:
 
Those got their cat drench a while back.

Bad news, the Girl Scout cookIes is a hermie! 8-(
Killed it and killed the clone of it too. It's seeded up pretty
Good as I didn't notice the pollen sacks right away. The critical kush next to it has a little seeds too but not bad.




Here are pics from last night of the other two (critical kush and cbd ).
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