Nick Hardy & Co Graduation: Coco Co2 High EC: Grown in Thailand: Perpetual

Day #10 Veg - some were 10 days from tap root and some 5 days. So 20 days and 15 Days

One Island isn’t going to make it. Outdoor grow at best.

Topping tomorrow I think.

Pretty happy. No gas for two days because another reg cross threaded. They’re so soft. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Nick & Co


That’s incredible growth it’s like you’re feeding them steroids! Great work + Co. CL🍀
 
Getting time to flip. :cheesygrinsmiley:
Ha other grow is still rolling. Need another week out of them down there at least, to allow for some maintenance of the flower room between grows. But in ten days we’ll be flipping I think.

@CaptainLucky - 30% over max recommended nute levels and lights at 30% closer than normal when that was possible (before it went full jungle!) but that’s all only possible because of the gas. And please don’t even think of it for your grow! Not safe in that setup at all.
 
Ha other grow is still rolling. Need another week out of them down there at least, to allow for some maintenance of the flower room between grows. But in ten days we’ll be flipping I think.

@CaptainLucky - 30% over max recommended nute levels and lights at 30% closer than normal when that was possible (before it went full jungle!) but that’s all only possible because of the gas. And please don’t even think of it for your grow! Not safe in that setup at all.
I appreciate you looking 👀 out for me but it never was a consideration. Prolly cost a fortune anyway. CL🍀
 
Not much to report. Bigger. Lights up. Have gas but another reg has a different problem. Need a new brand. Going to look at welding type stuff rather than aquarium type stuff next time. After tomorrow when I have one coming but cannibalise what I have and a new one to get two working ones. They’re $50 a pop too so ai am really bored of this now.

Plants are bigger. Not topped. Clawy McClawface remains so. But steadfastly alive. Just ugly and a weird colour. She’s an Island. There’s another Island that is really weird. Skinny as. Might turn out interesting though. Bit of tipping on just a few. Lights and strong nutes and no gas. Lifted the lights and will just have to wait a day or so.

Nick & Co


 
Just because I watched while & Co watered a few hours later than I took the earlier photos from the side. These Mars Hydro FCE4800’s are perfect for our veg. Maybe the FCE6500’s a shade better. But perfect really bar the cable management - which is excellent on the FC6500 (E denotes the Prosumer rather than to Commercial grade) they’re also cheaper, but still great value.

Anyway hopefully they are back on the gas tomorrow. I have not one but 3 new Co2 Regs coming in the next week or so. I bought two cheaper ruggedised Chinese Co2/Argon welding regs. These Japanese ones designed for aquariums are a bit soft, steel going on to brass whereas the new ones are brass to brass so I think the likelyhood of the connector cross threading will be reduced.

Anyway - the girls looking great from above.

Nick & Co

 
Just as I am mixing and pressing the blue button to water the other grow the most bangingest most perfect nutes ever for my final stretch ladies the delivery guy calls to deliver a new Co2 reg for these girls. Timing perfect. We had 20L for them of the old mix. Blast 8 hours of gas, up the nutes and lower the lights and top on Saturday.

Brand new reg cross threaded first time.

Do you know how careful I was? Like really very f-k careful.

Co2 cylinders are brass. Don’t buy a Co2 reg that isn’t also brass. I beg you. The most solid sound bit of advice I can give in this forum.

Anyway they're in veg and we’re running longer upstairs so really not that bothered. “Brass to brass and never any different lad” that’s advice my Grandad Wilf gave me or the old boy fixed the lawnmowers when I was driving farm tractors years back. Brass to Brass. Bugger!

Anyway girls are great. The Strawberry honestly what a pleasure. Indy prefers a bit a special. The Island is just stupid but yeah. Crazy sativa. Dumb is as dumb does.

Look good. Again & Co wants a touch more before topping. The gesture she used when she said “maybe tomorrow” indicated it definitely isn’t tomorrow! 🤣 Its her call.

Blues Brothers playing in the German restaurant that bakes me gluten free bread with my Mighty + Two grows going well. Cross threaded Co2 regs. Meh. Whatever I have a solution and hopefully I save someone else the pain

“Brass to brass”

Nick & Co


 
Just as I am mixing and pressing the blue button to water the other grow the most bangingest most perfect nutes ever for my final stretch ladies the delivery guy calls to deliver a new Co2 reg for these girls. Timing perfect. We had 20L for them of the old mix. Blast 8 hours of gas, up the nutes and lower the lights and top on Saturday.

Brand new reg cross threaded first time.

Do you know how careful I was? Like really very f-k careful.

Co2 cylinders are brass. Don’t buy a Co2 reg that isn’t also brass. I beg you. The most solid sound bit of advice I can give in this forum.

Anyway they're in veg and we’re running longer upstairs so really not that bothered. “Brass to brass and never any different lad” that’s advice my Grandad Wilf gave me or the old boy fixed the lawnmowers when I was driving farm tractors years back. Brass to Brass. Bugger!

Anyway girls are great. The Strawberry honestly what a pleasure. Indy prefers a bit a special. The Island is just stupid but yeah. Crazy sativa. Dumb is as dumb does.

Look good. Again & Co wants a touch more before topping. The gesture she used when she said “maybe tomorrow” indicated it definitely isn’t tomorrow! 🤣 Its her call.

Blues Brothers playing in the German restaurant that bakes me gluten free bread with my Mighty + Two grows going well. Cross threaded Co2 regs. Meh. Whatever I have a solution and hopefully I save someone else the pain

“Brass to brass”

Nick & Co


Love the Blues Brothers.
Don't know about this gluten free bread though. :rofl:
Grandad was a smart man.;)
Listen to & Co no rush on the topping. :thumb:
You young bucks no patience, hehe.
Watch your brass.
Garden looks great.
Take care my friend. :high-five:





#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
 
Day #14 - Didn’t even bother mentioning topping to & Co. She is very much of the @Bill284 let it grow long 🤣

Reg issues not being solved any time soon. So turned all the extraction off and blasted them with 1500ppm. That should lesve them with like a pre bed treat. The extraction off it will dissipate really slowly, the Rh and temp will touch up. EDIT - but you should have made me for this anyway but I touched the lights up to 85% or so as well at 10”

We’re out playing some pool. I’m in some annual multi week singles tournament starting next week. Probably should try playing with my cue again some time but strictly house ones tonight. Think I’ve played 3 racks in a month. When we’re home I’ll bang the extractor fan back on. The equivalent of an Irish coffee for the girls in veg on St Patricks day 🤣

They look lush and emerald,

Nick & Co (To be sure)

 
Day #14 - Didn’t even bother mentioning topping to & Co. She is very much of the @Bill284 let it grow long 🤣

Reg issues not being solved any time soon. So turned all the extraction off and blasted them with 1500ppm. That should lesve them with like a pre bed treat. The extraction off it will dissipate really slowly, the Rh and temp will touch up. EDIT - but you should have made me for this anyway but I touched the lights up to 85% or so as well at 10”

We’re out playing some pool. I’m in some annual multi week singles tournament starting next week. Probably should try playing with my cue again some time but strictly house ones tonight. Think I’ve played 3 racks in a month. When we’re home I’ll bang the extractor fan back on. The equivalent of an Irish coffee for the girls in veg on St Patricks day 🤣

They look lush and emerald,

Nick & Co (To be sure)

Just out of curiosity are those lights level or is my vertigo back? :rofl:




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
 
Just out of curiosity are those lights level or is my vertigo back? :rofl:




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284 😎
A fair comment and you’re not the first to mention it!

What's with the wonky light?
The Mars FCE’s are perfect for veg but the way the cables aren’t stowed means they are fundamentally unbalanced. All the weight is unbalanced on one side. Wavy cables. The FC’s don’t have this issue. A pleasure. When & Co is watering I’ll generally take photos and even just opening the tent door messing with the air pressure will swing the lights. Really a bit tough to hang even. So we water, knock them about in the process, snap a pic or two then reset them and tiptoe back as we seal the tent back up with the gentlest fingers. Hopefully…
 
Day #15 Veg. Its been a busy few days with a school last day for our eldest daughter yesterday. I find out Goldie the Drum and Bass and James Bond Baddie opened rhe basketball court 8 years ago (its a rwally poor local Thai School) and now fhis evening I’m going to my friend and Pool Team Mate’s pre funeral dunno go look at the coffin. Tomorrow I have to stream it for his family and then after they burn the body (open fire Buddhist Cremation) I’ll put some nice type stuff of the temple in Off Topic.

But then we have to go home because the whole class of 2023 for my stepdaughter, including the teachers and partners are coming to our house for a BBQ 🤣

Like 30-40 people & Co has invited from the school. And the BBQ or (Braai, Carmen!) goes on the street outside the carport/garage where there are two grow tents including the one this grow is in. 🤣

I’m going to have to schedule openings - “One look at the plants every hour babe don’t stress the plants, only the head twacher and good friends parents can go upstairs and look.” Its like a Sunday weed open house. Very funny.

Funeral stuff - meh. 81, lived an unreal good life. Very quick. On his terms 100%. That I should be so lucky. Not sad - please no one even say “sorry for…” because we kill plants. There is a natural cycle. He went out happy.

Not sure though he had plants in veg as good as these though. 😁

I blasted them with some leaky Co2 while I mixed a tank of nutes and while I did I turned off the extractor. The smell while I took the photos was incredible. Like a rich vegetable green coffee aroma. A hot wave of it. Amazing.

They look well. Topping ain’t happening tomorrow with funerals and BBQ’s and that’s totally ok when the phenos are all so standard mostly I reckon. We need to potentially slow for some straggler Sativas upstairs anyway.

Nick & Co


 
&Co makes great calls on timing so all I can say is they look terrific! Oh, but is there a slight Mg deficiency in the foreground or is that just the lighting?
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Sorry to hear about your mate :rip: but out quick at 81 after a good life isn't a bad way to go. And good on ya for streaming the funeral for those who can't make it. When my dad died in the WTF days of Covid (May 2020) I recorded the tiny funeral we had for him (my fam and my cousin only) and I posted it on YouTube for my sister in NY. No one was flying back then.

As you were, rack 'em up! 🎱
 
As you were, rack 'em up! 🎱
That’s super nice Shed. Thanks.

For deficiency yep think so. They have a stronger mix ready for them. Its the Co2 thing. We did it last grow too I think. You give them a bit and in veg they go a bit mad. We’re on the max of the chart already for veg. But for a brass regulator but don’t think its even shipped yet. 5 days at least. Because winding the nutes down doesn’t seem to help once they’re on the needle. I’d just prefer it was more structured delivery.

BBQ for my daughter's Class of ‘23 and her teachers next up on this Super Sunday! The food is pretty cool looking!

Nick & Co
 
So yeah. Day #16 Veg. All good. Some deficiency I think. They just got the nutes I made yesterday and rhen an hour later I blasted gas, popped the Rh up by switching off the inline and turned the lights up. To about 90% at 10 inches. I’ll put the fan back on and turn the lights down a bit in a couple pf hours. Like a hot massage for them before bed. Its Sunday night and they deserve it. They’ve grown quite a bit since Day #9!

Nick & Co



 
So & Co just watered her girls. They have had 4 blasts of the gas manually today. I’ve kind of got it working. I turn the extractor off and let it get to about 800ppm slowly when I max it. It shoots up to 1500 even after I switch off the supply.

Brass Co2 Regs are on the Chinese side of the border still so 3 days minimum I reckon.

Anyway I’m writing while I type this, Jeez, AMG is good smoke.

I am writing this while I wait for that sweet Co2 candy before bed naturally dissipates before I open a door to take day #17 photos. They’re big lasses mostly. & Co, the demon barber was sharpening her scissors with a laser like gaze as she watered them. Tomorrow they are for the cut, no doubt.

I’m writing this before I take the photos but yeah they are a good flock at this stage.

OK so went down 15 minutes after seeing them at 1200ppm and thinking 1400 would be nice. They were still at 1400 but falling fairly quickly.the tent is obviously not airtight but is light tight and there is no air extraction on so maybe slight positive pressure from the swing fan being on. The plants are absorbing it I think. We were at a tank a week at one point in flower. With out the fan driving the air intake to circulate ppm drops to 250ppm which is really bad. The BBQ we had on the street yesterday boosted it to 600+ naturally. Was awesome. I should have had a fan!

& Co - “We BBQ everyday!”

Still 950 this is perfect. May give them one more like this in 90 minutes. Personalised Co2 delivery, hand crafted, throughout the day. The lengths we go to 😂 oh. I should probably check EC and PPM haven’t done that today. Or for a while with these guys.

EC 2.5 PPM 1250 PH If you have to ask then… well yeah 5.8 Day #17 Veg

Two GIF Memes occur to me there. Both James Bond ones. I’ll put them in Off Topic. Hehe.

Right let them get to 550ppm and then switched on the @Mars Hydro 6” with the dimmer. On about 3/10 setting the 1.2x 2.4m tent was at negative pressure, sides sucked in and the Co2 level was falling slowly. It will stop at background of the carport 450 or so. Lewve the fan off goes to 250. Plants devour that last 200.

Getting a feel for the gas. Really understanding what’s going on. Brass regs. Brass regs. Another one for off topic.

Also - the lights are to the wall of the tent on the right side of tent and taller. The ones on the left are in some cases getting less light as they overhang. We’re having a little rearrange with topping. Its like 5cm but really noticable. .

Right at the end of this meandering post I wrote (and typed) whilst doing the work I have photos. New angle.

Clawy McClawface is now top left. The weird pheno is sort of middle top right. They are pretty uniform but for the two closest to the fan which I mention for @Weffalo because we were talking about it - but remember there is Co2 blasting out that fan. I think from the current flower grow I might need a new distribution system. Serious I don’t think they like so much up close.

I have just dosed them a second time this post has been so long in the writing. Photos below.

Nick & Co (and the sound of blades being sharpened)




 
Revisited them when I gave them more gas. (I was going to turn the fan back on but gas at 850 still and well those temps and humidity with how close the lights are and the EC, I wouldn’t respect my self in the morning I didn’t blast them with gas again and stick a movie on for an hour. They are a lovely looking bunch. Here from the usual angles. Can see the canopy gradient and the short ones at the front by the gas from here. We’ll adjust for that tomorrow.

And beg an exchange return from @Mars Hydro - swap you one FC6500 and two FCE4800’s for 3 FC1000’s ? Interested?! Its the ultimate setup. 2x FC6500 for veg and 3x FC1000 which are brand new for flower. 🤣

Anyway, some crazy numbers in there, probably time to connect the AC pipe.

EDIT - Gave them one more gassing

Nick & Co (with cheeky dreams)



 
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