New Moon Over Guawi: A High Brix Journey

Killerbudz said:
Ya, I figured out really early to not try to compete with duggs, he's just on another level . Been using the kit what 10 years now?
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I wrote this somewhere before and probably much better worded but I'll try again

User levels

BEGINNER = anyone can do it and get GREAT RESULTS
EXPERIENCED = Same as above but now you understand whats going AWESOME RESULTS
EXPERT = Full understanding and user Experience (15 + Grows) MANY MANY FRIENDS RESULTS
MASTER = Doc "Make America Green Again"

I still fall in the Beginner category
Beginner = 1 to 3 Grows
 
dajerm119 said:
Ya know what crazy, and I have no idea how the hell he does it... Duggs gives NO GI until in flower. And thats after a TP drench and a RO watering with his "splash" of tea. Duggs makes the kit look like childs play... ffs makes me pretty jealous.
But you've figured out what works best for you, and you're working it!
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Its all about finding how it fits into your style

Don't think there is a wrong way just need to find what works best in your own situation.
I need it to work in a 2 x 4 x 7 tent so thats how it HAS to WORK and I have to find a way
to work around the limitations. Duggs has other limitations but has figured out how to make
it work for him. The kit is the simplest way and once its working all you have to do is FIND WAYS
to keep yourself involved :)

BTW I did do my first run with very little TP and had a bad results, who would of thought something
named TRANSPLANT was to be used for something other than Transplanting :oops:
But I can see it the other way around like Duggs does, since the Roots are really the big thing in veg.
and he is filling large size pots with roots I suspect having them primed and ready to go at Flower makes sense.
Conclusion is the TP is the best choice and more important than the GI but in my situation keeping
everything even SO FAR has been working :)
 
It's really hard for me to tempter my expectations for myself, but I've become a little better at it with age. I normally expect excellence but with growing there are some things you just can't control like genetics or outages.
 
Killerbudz said:
It's really hard for me to tempter my expectations for myself, but I've become a little better at it with age. I normally expect excellence but with growing there are some things you just can't control like genetics or outages.
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I see we are both of the same Mind-set. :high-five:

Thats my expectation as well, I can do it better than ANYONE ELSE. I will always listen
and learn from others but when it comes time to put it to action its all on Me and I
strive for Perfection and if I can ever find it I then start to refine how I got there and
make it look easy ;)

Of course this is not always the result, but thats the PATH

Your Future Is Not Mine
Daisy Hamel-Buffa


I'll never go down your road
I find my way on my own
I'll never follow your path
I'll make mine and I won't look back

I'll never go down your road
I find my way on my own
I'm never gonna fall in line
Your future is not mine

Your future is not mine
 
I will preface this post by saying that I am in no way taking anything away from Duggans grow skills. Now while Duggan is a very skilled and experienced grower , which works in his favor, I think one of the keys to his success lies in how he does not get plants root bound in 1s and then transplants into BIG pots. With Doc's approach he maxes out roots while in the ones and he has mastered it. I see growers struggle all the time with keeping plants healthy while striving to achieve this. Between Doc's dialed in environment, CO2 supplement, and being very good at what he does, he has an edge over most home growers. These things allow him to push his plants harder and faster than most everyone else. I see no one else get the same roots as him with 4 weeks of veg. I also do not see anyone have things as dialed in as him either. So people struggle to keep their plants healthy whilst trying to get Doc style root balls in ones. I rarely ever get roots like that and when I do get plants that root bound I always have purple stems, I have just learned to accept what I cannot make better yet and have figured out how I can work around it.

Now Duggs he grows his plants in 1s for a month under T8s and then under his big lights until they get used to it and before they are root bound he puts them in massive pots. He does not need to worry about filling the 1s with roots the way Doc does because he knows he is going to veg for a few weeks in the final pots. Doc transplants and flips at the same time and in order for that to work well he needs to pack his 1 with roots before the transplant! Doc needs to use drenches to keep the soil and in turn the plants happy, where as Duggan lets the soil do all the heavy lifting for him. Because of Duggans approach he seems to struggle a lot less than other. I am sure he could do very well in smaller pots, but by using all the soil that he does he gives himself a buffer that allows him to grow massive, healthy plants, with minimal issues.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
I will preface this post by saying that I am in no way taking anything away from Duggans grow skills. Now while Duggan is a very skilled and experienced grower , which works in his favor, I think one of the keys to his success lies in how he does not get plants root bound in 1s and then transplants into BIG pots. With Doc's approach he maxes out roots while in the ones and he has mastered it. I see growers struggle all the time with keeping plants healthy while striving to achieve this. Between Doc's dialed in environment, CO2 supplement, and being very good at what he does, he has an edge over most home growers. These things allow him to push his plants harder and faster than most everyone else. I see no one else get the same roots as him with 4 weeks of veg. I also do not see anyone have things as dialed in as him either. So people struggle to keep their plants healthy whilst trying to get Doc style root balls in ones. I rarely ever get roots like that and when I do get plants that root bound I always have purple stems, I have just learned to accept what I cannot make better yet and have figured out how I can work around it.

Now Duggs he grows his plants in 1s for a month under T8s and then under his big lights until they get used to it and before they are root bound he puts them in massive pots. He does not need to worry about filling the 1s with roots the way Doc does because he knows he is going to veg for a few weeks in the final pots. Doc transplants and flips at the same time and in order for that to work well he needs to pack his 1 with roots before the transplant! Doc needs to use drenches to keep the soil and in turn the plants happy, where as Duggan lets the soil do all the heavy lifting for him. Because of Duggans approach he seems to struggle a lot less than other. I am sure he could do very well in smaller pots, but by using all the soil that he does he gives himself a buffer that allows him to grow massive, healthy plants, with minimal issues.
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Well said. It seems to work well in a number of ways we all just need to find what works best for out situations.

Thinking I made a good decision to run ONE 85% Sativa along side a 100% Indica EXPECTING
the GDP to finish way ahead of the GUAWI which should open up the room for the extra Sativa growth
 
Looks like I'll be getting up at 4am to Dunk the GDP
GUAWI will be ready at 5am so not to bad
Both are on H2O with 1/4 TP and TEA Until Up-Pot

GDP is 1.5 days dry (daily watering should be very soon)
GUAWI is 2.5 days

Thinking I may be transplanting on different days but still close enough to make it work :)
probably even make things easier ;)
 
Looks like the GDP is using up 23 oz of liquid weight a day, nearly 3 cups.
She only holds 6 cups so officially under the 2 day mark (1.5 as of the last dunk)

Wont be long now to see the ROOTS :)

Still on Target for Sep 9th NEW MOON

Oh something special about SEP FULL MOON

Full Harvest Moon - September 25th, 2018

The term "Harvest Moon” refers to the Full Moon that occurs closest to the Autumnal Equinox. The Full Moon closes to this Equinox rises about 20 minutes later each night as apposed to the rest of the year when the moon rises around 50 minutes later each night. This was important to early farmers because they had more nights of bright moon light to gather crops.
 
EFFECT OF MAGNETIC TREATMENT ON IRRIGATION
WATER QUALITY, SOIL PROPERTIES AND GROWTH OF
SUNFLOWER CROP

Thesis submitted to the
University of Agricultural Sciences, Dharwad
In partial fulfillment of the requirements for the
Degree of
Master of Science (Agriculture)
In
Soil Science
By
ASHWINI H. GUDIGAR

REVIEW OF LITERATURE​
Magnetized water is water passed through a magnetic field. Many physico-chemical changes
are reported to take place in the water when treated magnetically, including changes in viscosity,
boiling point, magnetic susceptibility, electrical conductivity and surface tension. Magnetized water
is reported to increase crop yield, induce seed germination and benefit the health of livestock and it is
found to be effective for preventing and removing scale deposits in pipes and water containing
structures and also increase the levels of CO2 and H+ in soils comparable to the addition of fertilizers.

Magnetized water has been used as an effective means for soil desalinization. When applied to salty
soil, magnetic field breaks down the salt crystals and helps in faster leaching of salts. The literature
pertaining to the effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water quality, soil properties and crop is
reviewed in this chapter under the following headings

2.1 Effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water quality
2.2 Effect of magnetized water on soil properties
2.3 Effect of magnetized water on germination and growth
2.4 Effect of magnetized water on yield and quality parameters
2.5 Effect of magnetized water on physiological properties




ABSTRACT​
Experiments were conducted to study the effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water
quality, soil properties, leaching efficiency of salts and growth of sunflower crop during 2011- 2012
at College of Agriculture, UAS, Dharwad. Four separate experiments were conducted to achieve the
objectives. Irrigation waters with different salinity levels of i.e., 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 16 dS m-1 were
obtained by equilibrating natural saline soil with good water in the ratio of 1:3 and used in the studies
along with GW (0.6 dS m-1). For magnetic treatment, the waters were passed though the magnetic
device as required for each study.

The one-time magnetic treatment of irrigation water significantly decreased electrical
conductivity but the effect on pH was variable. With multiple magnetic treatments, the difference
between treated and untreated became increasingly narrow. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and
sodium adsorption ratio also followed the same trend. The magnetic treatment also had mollifying
effect on residual sodium carbonate of water. In general, the decrease was of higher magnitude at
lower level of water salinity. Intermittent irrigation with magnetized water significantly decreased soil
pH but increased soil salinity. Soil exchangeable calcium, sodium and exchangeable sodium
percentage decreased due to irrigation with magnetized water. Soil water soluble calcium, magnesium
and sodium decreased due to magnetized water irrigation. The magnetic treatment significantly
decreased the dispersible clay content over non-magnetized water use.

Leaching a saline soil with magnetized water removed more salts from the soil compared to leaching
with non-magnetized water. Soils leached with magnetized water had significantly higher leachate salinity
and lower soil salinity compared to leaching with non-magnetized water. The magnetic treatment significantly increased germination percentage, plant height and dry matter yield in sunflower over non-magnetized water use. The magnetic treatment increased the K/Na ratio and improved its salt-tolerance.
 
Gazoo said:
EFFECT OF MAGNETIC TREATMENT ON IRRIGATION
WATER QUALITY, SOIL PROPERTIES AND GROWTH OF
SUNFLOWER CROP​

Thesis submitted to the
University of Agricultural Sciences, Dharwad
In partial fulfillment of the requirements for the
Degree of
Master of Science (Agriculture)
In
Soil Science
By
ASHWINI H. GUDIGAR​

PDF LINK TO THESIS

REVIEW OF LITERATURE​
Magnetized water is water passed through a magnetic field. Many physico-chemical changes
are reported to take place in the water when treated magnetically, including changes in viscosity,
boiling point, magnetic susceptibility, electrical conductivity and surface tension. Magnetized water
is reported to increase crop yield, induce seed germination and benefit the health of livestock and it is
found to be effective for preventing and removing scale deposits in pipes and water containing
structures and also increase the levels of CO2 and H+ in soils comparable to the addition of fertilizers.

Magnetized water has been used as an effective means for soil desalinization. When applied to salty
soil, magnetic field breaks down the salt crystals and helps in faster leaching of salts. The literature
pertaining to the effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water quality, soil properties and crop is
reviewed in this chapter under the following headings

2.1 Effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water quality
2.2 Effect of magnetized water on soil properties
2.3 Effect of magnetized water on germination and growth
2.4 Effect of magnetized water on yield and quality parameters
2.5 Effect of magnetized water on physiological properties




ABSTRACT​
Experiments were conducted to study the effect of magnetic treatment on irrigation water
quality, soil properties, leaching efficiency of salts and growth of sunflower crop during 2011- 2012
at College of Agriculture, UAS, Dharwad. Four separate experiments were conducted to achieve the
objectives. Irrigation waters with different salinity levels of i.e., 2, 4, 6, 8, 12 and 16 dS m-1 were
obtained by equilibrating natural saline soil with good water in the ratio of 1:3 and used in the studies
along with GW (0.6 dS m-1). For magnetic treatment, the waters were passed though the magnetic
device as required for each study.

The one-time magnetic treatment of irrigation water significantly decreased electrical
conductivity but the effect on pH was variable. With multiple magnetic treatments, the difference
between treated and untreated became increasingly narrow. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and
sodium adsorption ratio also followed the same trend. The magnetic treatment also had mollifying
effect on residual sodium carbonate of water. In general, the decrease was of higher magnitude at
lower level of water salinity. Intermittent irrigation with magnetized water significantly decreased soil
pH but increased soil salinity. Soil exchangeable calcium, sodium and exchangeable sodium
percentage decreased due to irrigation with magnetized water. Soil water soluble calcium, magnesium
and sodium decreased due to magnetized water irrigation. The magnetic treatment significantly
decreased the dispersible clay content over non-magnetized water use.

Leaching a saline soil with magnetized water removed more salts from the soil compared to leaching
with non-magnetized water. Soils leached with magnetized water had significantly higher leachate salinity
and lower soil salinity compared to leaching with non-magnetized water. The magnetic treatment significantly increased germination percentage, plant height and dry matter yield in sunflower over non-magnetized water use. The magnetic treatment increased the K/Na ratio and improved its salt-tolerance.
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Sweet! How were they magnetizing the water, I wonder?
 
StoneyMemoirs said:
Sweet! How were they magnetizing the water, I wonder?
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They used Magnets wrapped around the water line with the magnets configured in
this way,

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BUT here is another style that is easy to make and according to another study that used these the best configuration
was 4 magnets used in a NNSS position ( N to N & S to S)

Link
ANOTHER STUDY


The tests were done using 6 various magnet orientations with Magnetized filtered city tap water.

Note:
"to magnetize the water, we used AQUATOMIC water treatment devices with the magnets arranged in varying North/South configurations."
 
How about this link to a 420MAG Thread

How To Create An Hawaiian Style Grow Environment

Think 11/13

"Try inducing a 11/13 or even a 10/14 light/dark Hawaiian style photoperiod and watch the dramatic difference displayed as your Maui Wowie plants begin flowering right away and fully finish in up to 9-11 weeks as opposed to Maui Wowie flowered at 12/12 that may even still be light and airy with prematurely developed buds at 11 weeks. "
 
Not so sure I light this conclusion, though....

"Significantly higher calcium, magnesium and sodium
contents were recorded in magnetic
untreated water under all salinity levels compared
to one time magnetic treated water. The
reduction in calcium, magnesium and sodium contents
was more conspicuous at the lower
level of salinity and with one time magnetized water"

Must keep reading....
 
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