My Low Budget Medical Grow

[KingJohnC]

Congratulations on your harvest!

 

[closetorganic]

Thankyou KingJohnC
Yesterday I finally got some perlite and this time it was Mother Earth coarse #3.This is the first time Ive used chunky stuff so mixing it up I was liking the ratio of 2 parts of my cooking mix to 1 part perlite.This mix was only started 10 days so far but should be better I feel and when the seedlings are ready for another transplant the leftover mix should be done.I transplanted the seedlings to that ratio and 4 herer clones too all 16 days from dry seed or from being cut. On 3 of 3rd gen herer clones I put 1 TBSP of P Guano in planting hole mixing lite then dusting holes with Myco's. These 3 will be flowered in about a week to 10 days from this planting or until I feel 28g is realistic. The other one I will clone off,its the odd pot size of the 4 and closer in picture

the Blue Mystic" are labeled in same pot sizes for quality comparison and are now lower under the T5 that I replaced bulb on.Its was after discount and tax 10.77. They had 6 hours of dark last night and I will set up a new timer back to GLR hours today.

I cleaned the veg side out also
I will be planting some berry bomb clones and my herer self seed project today too,With in the last week I just killed 3 big plants and 4 clones for numbers well space too but mostly the limit. They for sure woulda went in the ground outside somewhere just the wrong time of year I had extras. Right now I have 4 strains going The berry bombs should be last run on them and I would eventually like to stay with just 2 in my little grow.
Thanks for checking out my grow everyone

 

[closetorganic]

I did water them all in with just enough from a gallon of aerated tap water mixture with measured nutrients of 5ml grow,bioweed,bioroot,biomarine,diamond black each and no cal mag because I wish I didnt put 1 cup of LIme in this soil mix,Its the first mixture on the GO BOX minus cal mag. No more food for a bit to see how things go

 

[closetorganic]

I want to show that my plants are seeming OK from transplant and nutrients watered in and have slightly increased node spaces now from the extra distance to light but not bad at all.I never hooked up timer and have been going manually at no more than 17 hours or less than 15 lights on.and some pictures starting with the reg seed Nirvana Blue Mytics at
18 days above mix and 5 days after the transplant....21 from dry seed

Barneys Farm fem Grape Ape same at 18 days above mix and 5 days after the transplant....21 from dry seed

the herer clones are starting to show some happiness to the planting pointing up a bit and I also have not gotten the other clones planted yet Hopefully tonight I can

NOw a couple have some lower leaf spotting I first thought mites which I need to get my butt moving on the prevention,hopefully tonight too, but I think its not that and more like needing a nutrient.I think the planting should fix this in time and I for sure need to get some neem oil on them and the babies too and keep a routine going.Here is my best picture sorry to say on this issue.I also thought light burn from water.

Here is some flower shots of 3rd gen herers at 65 days flower

I did give them ph'd aerated tap today and will probably cut at 69 days for grow management/day of week and know I will be happy with em but probably shy of 28g goal each Im guessing
The other 2nd gen herer is yellowing along and thinning herself of leaf I have been picking off.I will still get a decent harvest not 3 and think 3 like those other 2 herers in 1 gal pots with less soil and less water and nutrients needed could out perform this one in a 5 gal pot. It did have handicap of overgrown ,stress out and heavy pruned care in veg how about didnt quite establish before flipping too but I am getting to like these smaller ones Ive been doingand have better space for

I like how the supercropping worked here,I may have had to hold it down awhile,now this branch having 4 topper nugs and good ones along the stem in between

 

[b.real]

nice chunky buds. I hope that's not mite damage. if you want to oxygenate the soil a bit water with a mix of water and hydrogen peroxide next time.

 

[closetorganic]

Thanks b.real those chunky buds could go longer on the girls coming down soon I think but I have to keep things in order.The difference in the mix I made for them compared to the larger pot I think is why they are greener and could go loonger than the usual 70 days , maybe too much Nitrogen or they just got it too late into flower. I hope that batch I started to cook helps me out better with issue like that.NOw I want to start another batch to "be prepared " for future rounds.

The mite damage I have plucked and can still see on leaves I have left mostly on the closer one and low down . I dont see it on the bigger plant and hope they havent been visiting/laying eggs on anyone on the veg side currently.They did feast on the droopy herer forcing a toss and area clean up.

 

[KingJohnC]

Sierra Natural Sciences makes 2 products to kill spider mites and thrips SNS-217C Concentrate and SNS-209 Systemic Insect Control. I add 3-5 drops of Ivory Liquid Soap per gallon as a surfactant to help the spray stick to leaves and stems better. I would spray every 3 days for 2 weeks to kill adults and larvae as they hatch.


https://sierranaturalscience.com natural pesticides sns-217c

https://sierranaturalscience.com natural pesticides sns-209

 

[closetorganic]

Thankyou KingJohnC for that,I have been wanting to use sponsor stuff and a hydro store I use has the SNS spray I would like to alternate with my neem oil,but that is for watering in I think you linked to which would work even longer possibly for me by reusing my mix.I did spray my plants in veg last night with a warm water and neem oil mix and sprayed the soil surface and inside pot rims showing.After that I finally planted my last 3 berry bomb clones and last 3rd gen herer clone left in old mix with only earth worm castings added.They didnt get sprayed last night but I will Sunday night for their first and the 3 day deal for the others like you said for 2 weeks.I have used simple dish soap before but didnt have that kind this time and will try that again

The self seed project with that 3rd gen jack herer will start flower when she roots up in that same green pot,it was the one I thought I could flux train in the begining but looking at it now I will trim that shoot off and the leaf too.

 

[closetorganic]

I pulled out the 2 in flower for some pictures

and seen some bananas starting

and more from the spider mites I was trying not to pay attention too

I was gonna cut them in 3 days about but thats too much time for those mites so I just trimmed most of the leaves off andput them back.

I wont worry if there's mites or eggs when smoking probably but need to get this under control,Thank you for checking out my grow everyone

 

[closetorganic]

slowly but surely some growth 3 days between pics and today was the next watering from the transplant water in 4 days ago.I had a gallon of tap bubbling away a day then added a handful of ewc and bubbled 2 more days.It smelled fine from the sniff,I didnt check ph and hope it goes well. I dont want to overwater them so the lift test is done.Only problem is the mix is heavy to begin with and should be holding moisture well,but gives me uneasy feeling so they recieved light drinks looking like a cup each.The surface dries out maybe killing life so I should mist daily and go 5 days to next plain water I thinkI will get measure cups and keep it the same for similar pot sizes like a 2/3 cup for the Blue Mystics and 1 cup on the rest and try for plain water next,maybe on those plain waterings I will go the distilled way to not worry on adjusting ph.There is a place I can get water at 50 cents a gallon called crystal springs.I wonder what the ph of that is since its spring water right from ground from there for long time.We use to get it for drinking when I had a water dispenser but life happened moved a couple times and had our last child.TIme to fill acouple jugs and see what my tester shows.Its worth the drive to me over filling jugs at the grocery store I as grower usually suspect most I see doing it are growers too
Last thought is I should top my babies very soon,with them being pure indica and mostly indica does this sound good?I would like to have clones rooting first before I flip them anywhere from 4-6 weeks from now are my plans for like a july harvest that is assumeing I have females

 

[mcloadie]

I don't get out much, what is fluxing?

 

[closetorganic]

I don't get out much, what is fluxing?

Thanks for stopping by mcloadie I just enjoyed your words over at Bud Grant's and felt honored you stopped over here Sir
as far as Fluxing goes its a coined term for a style or training of a plant from one of 420's member Light Addict that he has grown some nice looking plants with.I have never tried it but when I had this clone root in the begining it looked to have 2 main branches starting low I thought I could go with that style.Then the smaller one just stalled growing, maybe having an issue of disease or mold so I cut it off.Maybe all the better because it would take longer veg with extra care and is probably too big for my grow set up anyways.I plan to run that particular 3rd gen clone from a fem Black Skull Jack Herer seed I had grown late into flower to be lucky for seeds.I have been seeing nanners pop late on clones just before 10 week flowering and hope if I grow one doing that for 3-4 weeks longer there should be a couple seeds Im hoping.
Here is a link to one of his journals for a way better show and tell of the Fluxing Technique
Light Addict's Fluxing Central - Featuring The Original Flux Journal
I have no problem useing that term and crediting him for it.
I swear I learned fimmimg through my own experience before ever reading or hearing about it which was cool to see it debuted in a mag and saying I know that!

 

[closetorganic]

I did mist a neem oil spray on the plants in veg,this spray mix had some ivory dish soap I had gotten for this. The look of the mixture was way better than my first so now Im planning the next spray 3/20 << 4/20 is getting close
Here are pics from last night I couldnt upload for some reason.I did top the 2 blue mystics and the grape ape a few days ago too

this is BM 2

and this was after spraying and after pictures - lights out,this morning they were looking better

 

[mcloadie]

Thanks for stopping by mcloadie I just enjoyed your words over at Bud Grant's and felt honored you stopped over here Sir
as far as Fluxing goes its a coined term for a style or training of a plant from one of 420's member Light Addict that he has grown some nice looking plants with.I have never tried it but when I had this clone root in the begining it looked to have 2 main branches starting low I thought I could go with that style.Then the smaller one just stalled growing, maybe having an issue of disease or mold so I cut it off.Maybe all the better because it would take longer veg with extra care and is probably too big for my grow set up anyways.I plan to run that particular 3rd gen clone from a fem Black Skull Jack Herer seed I had grown late into flower to be lucky for seeds.I have been seeing nanners pop late on clones just before 10 week flowering and hope if I grow one doing that for 3-4 weeks longer there should be a couple seeds Im hoping.
Here is a link to one of his journals for a way better show and tell of the Fluxing Technique
Light Addict's Fluxing Central - Featuring The Original Flux Journal
I have no problem useing that term and crediting him for it.
I swear I learned fimmimg through my own experience before ever reading or hearing about it which was cool to see it debuted in a mag and saying I know that!

Thanks sir, I will take a look at this "fluxing". Don't feel alone, I used a gallon of diluted neem oil yesterday, and will continue for a while at 5 day intervals.....powdery mildew, musta came from the dispensary where I got the clones.

 

[KingJohnC]

For powdery mildew in vegetative growth you can use Sierra natural Sciences SNS-244C Concentrated Natural Fungicide. For powdery mildew in flowering you can use SERENADE Garden Concentrate.

https://sierranaturalscience.com natural-pesticides sns-244c

https://serenadegarden.com

 

[closetorganic]

[QUOTEThanks sir, I will take a look at this "fluxing". Don't feel alone, I used a gallon of diluted neem oil yesterday, and will continue for a while at 5 day intervals.....powdery mildew, musta came from the dispensary where I got the clones. ][/QUOTE]
I hope you get it under control mcloadie I guess better now than in flower

Thanks for the info KingJohnC,it sounds like another week or so on the Brainstorm Haze you and Lab Experiment are running will be harvested after that flush for 7 days,I knew I was off on my guess wieght after the next round of pics you posted way back then

I did harvest my 2 -3rd gen herer clones last night at 70 days flower and weighed them as whole plants cut below first branch on my little postal scale sitting between 90 and 100g's each. I feel 20+g each but less than an ounce assuming 75% wieght to be water and stem.I also lost my camera yesterday most likely the usual of me putting it somewhere and forgetting where or some little hands found it to hide and play with

 

[Alkhemist]

heya closet, just a quick suggestion which MAY help inspire growth in your 2nd leader.. if you tie the stronger leader over so that the point is even pointing down and it's horizontal.. and keep it tied over- you may beable to convince your plant to make the smaller leader the main leader- until such a time as it is catches up and then you can let the other leader go.. what generally happens is the plant will then push nutrients, and as a result vigor, to the 2nd leader.. i can't recall the technical name for this offhand but we used to do it often. it may work for you.. just a suggestion

 

[closetorganic]

heya closet, just a quick suggestion which MAY help inspire growth in your 2nd leader.. if you tie the stronger leader over so that the point is even pointing down and it's horizontal.. and keep it tied over- you may beable to convince your plant to make the smaller leader the main leader- until such a time as it is catches up and then you can let the other leader go.. what generally happens is the plant will then push nutrients, and as a result vigor, to the 2nd leader.. i can't recall the technical name for this offhand but we used to do it often. it may work for you.. just a suggestion

I think I know what you mean Alkhemist.The one I talked about earlier I think your suggesting on the second leader I cut but I did have a clone that will be sitting a round or so out for more clones has one and I should do that on her. Its a low stress training I would call it and when I do lay this main leader over horizontal I will have multiple tops real quick. I bet with longer veg time and extra training this would be looking similar to the fluxing technique I think too

Thanks for stopping by Alkhemist

 

[closetorganic]

That clone above is the biggest of my herer clones now which are all 3rd generation from a fem seed.These 3 herer clones I cleaned up the bottoms a little and are the next round going in to flower when I have that feel they're ready and maybe will yield an ounce or close

this is the smallest of the herer clones and will be my self seed project in hopes of a couple fem seeds I should have in flower with or sooner than those 3 going in

Here is my grape ape plant I thought I topped with the Blue Mystics.I finger thumb pinch topped them all and this was smallest lead and was only fimmed you can see by the deformed leaves. It was slower than the Blue mystics from the start but I think if there was a true topping the lowers may have ran stronger ,second picture Grape APe is in front

the movements seem OK with BM1 the strongests and fastest growing and could be a male, my call from those factors and the seed shape it was.

In my dreams the 4 lower branches I want as clones by transplant on 4/1/14,then some lst on the top four to set up for flower flip on 4/20/14
I have some stuff to run side cfl lighting to help speed them maybe to make this plan work.
My only girl in flower now that is like in week eight flower and looking yellow with more white pistils than colored ones.My plans for the grow over weekend is to start the 3 clones and the seed project clone in flower, and transplant the berry bomb clones to give them 2 weeks to prepare for their flip and my last run with this strain. set up side lighting and "the timer finally"

I almost forgot to mention my Lovely Wife found my camera where I had left it for me.She is so good on that with keys and wallet and everything else I loose
Yesterday I took a picture of my last harvest in dry box that had been there 2 days starting at around 95g each and yesterday at picture time they both were 50g each- I hope to get at least 20g each in the end we will see

Thanks for checking in on the grow and have a great weekend

 

[closetorganic]

I was unfortunate to get a door letter for a rental inspection in 3 days. I have had them at this same spot before but our lease ended this month and we didnt resign and went month to month to bust out of here on a 30 day notice.So this gave me bigger worry on full house inspection rather than just checking fire extinguishers,smoke detectors and furnace filters I have one plant in flower hitting 70 days on 4/7/14 but will cut and dry her in another location the day before this inspection.Shit Im so worried I will also take down and remove everything else from house for this time too,leaving just my t5 hanging unplugged and the garlic plants in the closet.The thing is the closet is through bathroom and bathtub is leaking there so if they make it there into the master bath and notice that leak and send service My grow will be over.We are a legal medical grow and are following rules but I can not be evicted for this or have it on file while trying to move elsewhere.We need to get outta here so best case and its quick in out I bring baby seedlings and clones back and just T5 veg them keeping them alive until our next location.I will keep you all informed and show some pics of what Ill be doing on the plants and closet