My First Journal, Kanno 26: I Will Grow 6 Critical Plants From Royal Queen Seeds

[Bill284]

I think I went right, but just to be sure, what do you mean?

When you uppotted you put soil in the bigger pots correct?
Not coco?

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Azimuth]

pH is important to monitor and adjust to if using bottled nutrients since the nutrients are essentially locked up until the pH gets to the range they are released in. Each of the major elements are locked up until a certain pH which is how they get the nutrients to live together in the bottle, if I understand @Emilya 's explanation to a question I asked her in another thread. So, if you are too low or high in pH then the nutrients are not released to your plant and you get signs of deficiencies like you are showing on that leaf.

If you are doing an organic grow with microbes and such, then monuitoring pH is not necessary, but I think you are using bottled nutes??

 

[Kanno26]

When you uppotted you put soil in the bigger pots correct?
Not coco?

Stay safe
Bill

Yes, I gave the soil not coconut.

 

[Bill284]

Yes, I gave the soil not coconut.

Then ph to 6.3 and the will be fine.
As long as you let them dry appropriately.

Stay safe
Bill

 

[Jon]

Then ph to 6.3 and the will be fine.
As long as you let them dry appropriately.

Stay safe
Bill

No coconut? Guess our pina coladas are out.

 

[Kanno26]

Hi all growers, so today I officially switched to 12/12. The girls look to the world except for a few leaves I showed yesterday. The girls are supposed to be in bloom for 7-9 weeks according to Royal Queen Seeds. So we'll see how much it will be. Here are photos of the girls. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice.

 

[Jon]

Hi all growers, so today I officially switched to 12/12. The girls look to the world except for a few leaves I showed yesterday. The girls are supposed to be in bloom for 7-9 weeks according to Royal Queen Seeds. So we'll see how much it will be. Here are photos of the girls. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice.

Time to start the show!!!!

 

[Kanno26]

Time to start the show!!!!

Exactly

 

[StoneOtter]

Yep, Showtime! Here we go!

 

[Farmer Reading]

two wks in to flower they completely stop new leaf development. you want to be careful on the 2wk post flip defol. the leaves are a store of nutrients in bad times. whatever you have has to get you through.

Really try to limit my defol. into flowering other than to uncover vital colas. Running three clone(s) where the girls have been doing all the defol. for me.

depending on conditions it will stop in the 2 - 3 wk mark. some are inclined to go longer, but they are well in to flower. i've had sativas in particular that stretched through 90 days of 120 day flower period. they couldn't have been that far from land race at that point

Really hate to super crop into flowering, but those damn Sativa's stretch forever sometimes.

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• Farmer Reading
• Mar 30, 2022

holy that's a heck of a swing. if you're doing that daily you should get some great fall colours as they mature.

cheapest way to keep rh in check is move more air to outdoor. either a bigger exhaust fan or adjustable.

rh isn't bad as it is except for the cool overnights. that combo i worry about. 50 - 55% is fine for most situations depending on temps and air exchange. but you want your temps higher up and more even. i can see why you want to lower it.

I have been trying to take advantage of the "aggressive early spring weather' to get more color(s).
Generally my RH and temps are fairly easy to regulate. I am just seeing if exposure to extreme temp. dips help with coloration changes.

But my airflow is all internal, so if I can figure out a way to work air externally it'll make a massive difference.

it's all anecdotal. haven't really seen anything consistent over a number of growers and media. it all kind of seems the hp type right now. it sort of sounds strain and pheno sensitive as well.

there have been a few times where growers have abandoned ph all together. part of it is related to nute type and local conditions / water etc.

Ok. I don't PH. I almost always feed with humic acid.

I am a silly dilly, because the PH levels were in reference to coloration not trich development.

Some strains will produce more color in response to PH levels.

it's been interesting watching this. i don't have an equivalent approach in my current media. but it sort of goes through something similar on a cyclical basis in flower,

Think I've been using the drought process for years and didn't know it.
Need to follow some other drought examples to see that I am doing it correctly.

Much appreciate your detailed response @bluter

Have you thought about Draughting? Many growers on that thread have seen some great results.

Currently going to finish at least one more feeding cycle to amass more bud wait first.

Hey farmer hope your having a great weekend my friend.
Imo if you let your pots get down to 9 c you will have problems.
I don't let my pots get below 18c.
And it will take forever to heat back up and get the roots working again.
I agree on the defol.
I'm a big fan of leaving lots of foliage.
And cleaning under her skirt post stretch.

Stay safe
Bill

I had a swell weekend and this week has been quite swell.
Probably heading over to the farm today.

9 C was what my tent(s) dropped down to before they were closed for the night.

Hope you have a great week.

they kinda crash if they sit at 8c or lower for an extended period. if the root zone gets down there they'll be finished. they can take the air temp for a bit.

That low of temps were for only a few short hours, so my roots probably never dipped down that low.
Once the tent(s) started to heat back up the girls seemed notably happy.

This:
Also I've heard that lowering the PH is helpful in aggressive trich development.
Also I've heard that some strains like higher PH for trich development.

I have never heard either. Very interesting. Know where you heard it?

This was in reference to coloration, per my previous reference on this post.

One of my friends who has a ton of experience, been trying to get him to join the community, referenced increasing certain types of acids later in the flowering process. Maybe not so much PH as adding acids that are conducive to trich. development.

Anyway been ramping up Humic Acid late into flowering.
Here is some light reading on the subject and why I majored in Business, lol.

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[Kanno26]

Hi colleagues, here are photos of the girls on the third day in bloom before watering, they seem to grow before your eyes. They got calmag and to support the flower and the pH is at 6.3 and they got about 15l of water. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice

 

[Jon]

Hi colleagues, here are photos of the girls on the third day in bloom before watering, they seem to grow before your eyes. They got calmag and to support the flower and the pH is at 6.3 and they got about 15l of water. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice

The stretch is ON!! Good stuff Kanno!!

 

[bluter]

you look a wee bit hungry. if you flipped or they're turning you're gonna need a bump to stay ahead.
pretty stable otherwise.


edit : elongated ends with no tipping is bit of a tell. going in to flower i want them bright green with a tip or two here and there..

 

[Jon]

you look a wee bit hungry. if you flipped or they're turning you're gonna need a bump to stay ahead.
pretty stable otherwise.


edit : elongated ends with no tipping is bit of a tell. going in to flower i want them bright green with a tip or two here and there..

Good eye bluter. I looked again after seeing your comment here and I have to agree. In addition to your "bit of a tell," you can see just a tiny bit of yellowing on some of the large fans and a couple plants look just a tad more yellowish than preferred in a few pictures. Small stuff, like you say, just a bump type thing, not a problem. A bit of N at least, yes?

 

[Kanno26]

you look a wee bit hungry. if you flipped or they're turning you're gonna need a bump to stay ahead.
pretty stable otherwise.


edit : elongated ends with no tipping is bit of a tell. going in to flower i want them bright green with a tip or two here and there..

Hi @bluter thanks, they were photographed in front of the dressing so they look hungry But they are already eating

 

[Jon]

Hi @bluter thanks, they were photographed in front of the dressing so they look hungry But they are already eating

Ha! I get that Kanno! I don't like posting pictures from under the 420h cuz the spectrum makes my plants appear less green than they actually are. Sometimes I'll actually turn the light way down for a picture just to present the real colors! Lmao. Well that's good then if that's the case. Stay the course. So far you haven't fuc--d it up yet.

 

[bluter]

i'm seeing it pull from lower down too.
it's eating up some of the lowers to compensate. it's just started. you're a bit hungry for sure.


edit : you might have caught it on the very last feed but i'd watch close. this is the worst time to under feed.

 

[bluter]

maybe a hair n heavy too. but just a hair.. nothing that concerns me. i normally run a bit n heavy myself. i cut back a bit on n in flower, and even let my plants consume some of the lowers out. i like to see that well in flower though, not near the onset.


edit : don't run all the n through flower. you can ease it off or hit the gas pedal with the calmag. it's not hard to target. only within a couple ml per gal. you can hit that and stay under the max dose easy usually. plants never need the max dose.


oh btw way you're doing great overall

 

[StoneOtter]

Hi colleagues, here are photos of the girls on the third day in bloom before watering, they seem to grow before your eyes. They got calmag and to support the flower and the pH is at 6.3 and they got about 15l of water. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice

Looking great Kanno!

 

[Kanno26]

I greet you all and wish you a beautiful Sunday. Today the girls are 5 days in bloom and look for another watering What do you think? Otherwise, every day I shift the light as the girls grow fast, usually by a few cents a meter. Today I photographed the girls in dim lights and I think they have nice colors. Thanks to everyone for your insight and advice.