My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Grow

Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

thanks xlr8, i'm running 15 gal in the system. i do use ro . yes i used florakleen at the smallest recommended rate. wont do that in mid growth again. ive been tring to run between 80-120ppms of calmag because heavy 16 is made for ro water and has several different types of calcium and mag. at 120 they seemed to do well. i backed off a bit last res change before this flush and change about to 80ppm. i added 3ml last night to the res. i'm going to run 150ppms next change and add some more to this res in a couple of days.
thanks for info on florakleen this was the first time i used this product and the last mid grow. my recommend dose for calimagic is 5ml gal but that is 325 ppms. which is more than 33% of my total ppms, i'm running in the low 900's right now. i'm getting heavy 16's foliar which has four types of calcium and other micronutes. hopefully that will help.
i'm also going to stop the prime until after i switch to zone. the microbe tea brewing in the res is causing ph to swing up quickly, ive been on top of adjusting but it hasnt let my ph stay under 6.0 for very long. two more weeks with bennys no prime and then i'll go zone.
would you suggest using hygrozyme with zone?

thanks for everything:thanks:

Ill let x answer but I know hiker runs hygrozyme and zone together without issue. My understanding is zone does very well on its own tho.

Some people run them together, but I prefer to do just the "Zone" on it's own in my active hydro systems. In coco coir, I do just the opposite: "Hygrozyme" without the "Zone".

On the cal/mag... this is just my experience, but even with nutrients that "should" have enough of cal and mag, transition and early bloom seem to call for a slightly greater amount with some strains/phenos. Also, if PH isn't staying in the right range enough, the plants may not be able to use it appropriately or something could be locked out. On paper, I shouldn't need to supplement cal/mag at all with the nutrients I use, but I've found that in reality sometimes I do, especially in transition and early bloom. Magnesium can be a tricky one as it's pretty finicky with PH. This is part of why it's important to not lock your PH target on too narrow of a range or number, and beneficial to let PH drift through a range, for example, with magnesium:

Magnesium gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-5.7
Magnesium is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 5.8-9.1

Sounds like you have a good plan. :thumb:
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

Thank you all for the insight.:thanks:
Special thanks to xlr8 for the detailed information, it was very helpful.
I was pretty sure it was calming Def, but I feel better having second opinions. Today had to drive all over so cal today working, this morning I adjusted my ph to 5.6. Got home at seven and it was at 6.2 prime has to go til I got the zone in the res.
I added nine ml of Calmag to the res and a gallon of fresh water. Ppms at 900. No pics today lights were off when I got home. They were real perky this morning. I'll get pics tomorrow.
Thanks again everyone:Namaste:
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

did some research and i now know why my ph wont stay down using the earthjuice citric acid ph down. i was adjusting to 5.6 and with in six hours it was 6.2. turns out microbes feed on it. so i'm just adding wood to the prime fire. it has settled out at 6.1 so i believe the prime has been consumed and the breeding party is been put on hold. i'm going to bring her down to 5.6 to 5.8 and let her drift up slow the rest of the week using my gh adjusters. girls look good some of the yellowing is gone , only one older leaf looked worst than other day.

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Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

picked up some heavy 16 foliar , it has four types of calcium, and four types of magnesium and a dusting of micronutes. hour after i sprayed it girls were reaching for the lights:thumb:

lowered ph to 5.9 with gh down. added 6ml base to raise ppm to 900

after foliar

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Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

i have decided that the prime isnt something i want to drop from my line up even for a coulpe of weeks so its time to say thank you but your fired to the microbes:ciao:
next res in goes the zone, will be adding silicone again but at 75 ppm now. also calmag at 150 ppm, fire at 1ml/gl prime at 10ml/gl and base up to 900 ppms this res will be bud base.

thanks for checking out my girls.

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Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

did res change today first bud base res, protekt 75ppms,, cal mag 150ppm, fire 1ml gal, prime 15ml gal, zone 2ml gal total ppms 925 ph'd to 5.6. fast growth seems to be back in full swing after our def problem. very fast recover and i credit the heavy 16 foliar and rainforests oxygen charged res.

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bleary root shot
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a shot of my root guard doing its job
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thanks:Namaste:
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

i'm happy to report that after initial ph rise, which is expected due to the way this system super oxygenates res. i adjusted my ph down to 5.8 last night at 2am then slept till 4:20 , check it still 5.8 . went to work 9 hrs came home and it 5.9 and ppms had dropped a lil. success!:yahoo: the microbe breeding party is over, i feel a little bad about wiping them out after helping to build such a massive root system but they werent playing nice with my main additive. xlr8's plants are the healthiest plants i've ever seen even right before harvest so zone we go till finish. todays pics

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Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

That is an awesome looking bush lol I love scrog, I currently have 3 og kush #18 in my scrog. The screen Is just about full. Do you know if og kush #18 streches much when you flip
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

from what i've heard it doesnt stretch as much as og kush, but mine are growing really fast and cant seem to get enough calmag. mine are 7days from flip and i move my lights up everyday. thanks for checking out my girls.:Namaste:
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

well ph has been 5.9 steady, three gal of water has been consumed and i added 10ml of base last night and still 5.9. hung my second screen today seems kind of high but this is the begining of the stretch and they have been growing fast. nodes are nice and tight.:thumb:

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new screen
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close up node spacing
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thanks for all the positive comments i really appreciate it:thanks:
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

hung up my diy carbon filter today and foliar fed heavy 16 pfn. i can still see some interveinal yellowing. i added 250ppm to res yestarday. will probably foliar feed twice a week till their over the def. the heavy 16 pfn has multi types of both calcium and magnesium as well as smale amounts of micros, it also contains one of the lowest molecular weight fulvic acid that helps minerals enter into the plant and translocate where needed. i use dm saturator with it to get it all in. girls are offically in strech, and showed sex tody.:)
their drinking two gallons a day, ppms drop between 20-30 thanks for stopping by:420:
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diy carbon filter system
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first pistals ahh
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Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

Good God its like they're mad at the screen lol
 
Re: My First Grow Journal OG #18 - Scrog - Recirculating Aero/DWC 600w LED Medical Gr

Can't wait for the bud porno. Reps!
 
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