My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Movers

Re: My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Mo

Hey Jon, sorry to clutter up your journal with questions about my room but I have another one if you don't mind. I'd PM you but I haven't made enough posts yet. Anyway, I'm having to rethink my venting based on what I've just learned. I though I could fudge by not running Co2 but you both seem to agree that's a bonehead move. My plan was to take air from under the house =>through my hoods==>vent into attic. Can I just unseal it so I get room air intake from under the house and then my hoods would suck from the room and exhaust into the attic? Is air from under a house going to be "fresh" enough do you think?
 
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TheDoctor said:
Hey Jon, sorry to clutter up your journal with questions about my room but I have another one if you don't mind. I'd PM you but I haven't made enough posts yet. Anyway, I'm having to rethink my venting based on what I've just learned. I though I could fudge by not running Co2 but you both seem to agree that's a bonehead move. My plan was to take air from under the house =>through my hoods==>vent into attic. Can I just unseal it so I get room air intake from under the house and then my hoods would suck from the room and exhaust into the attic? Is air from under a house going to be "fresh" enough do you think?
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sure,that would work.maybe pick up a hepa filter for your intake to catch all the dust and pests from entering your room.the intake fan would pull fresh air under your house and then into your room.make sure your exaust fan has a higher cfm than your intake or your house will wreak!like an 8 inch for exaust and a 6 inch intake for example.and feel free to post any questions you have bro we are all here to learn:)
 
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TheDoctor said:
Perfect that's exactly what I have (a 6 and 8 in can fan). If I do it this way it will make it easy to upgrade to sealed with Co2 and still keep my air cooled hoods. Thanks a lot!
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no problem:) feel free to rep me and anybody else that helps you bro its the little badge at the bottom left of peoples posts beside "blog this post"thanks
 
Re: My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Mo

I reped you Jon , for the awesome grow and the very helpfull attitude , bro !!
Congrats !!!

I hate those complicating systems with tons of noisy fans and ducts, where the air comes from, where the air goes to.. Etc etc ...
That's why I went with LEDs !!! And a controler/solenoid/bottle it's much easier for me , for just 400-500 $ !!
You need the same ammount of money for those fans , ducts etc ?
Correct me plz, if I'm wrong !!
And if you got a big room and an NG line , a minigen it's even more cheaper ..
Of course you still $ to do that :(

(plus you can get a really good advantage of the higher temps ! 28-29c)
 
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ledweedgirls said:
When in the grow process and how much do you defoliate ?
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Hi girls:) I would wait until you have a few grows under your belts before you start defoliating.you can remove some of the larger fan leaves to expose lower bud sites throughout veg and flower.you have a few weeks to go before starting anything like that.I remove 60-70% of the fan leaves several times throughout veg and flower to promote tighter node spacing during veg and to get alot more light down into the lower buds but you have to be careful not to overdo it or you will end up stunting growth and hurting your yield.I dont have set times that I do it I just do it when the plants foilage is getting to dense for airflow and light to get through.hope this helps:)
 
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Hey everyone,looks like the holy grail is going to be a finicky strain.that mild deficiency that was showing in the veg room is back on 3 of the plants.This the first time ive grown kush in the hydro system so anybody with any experience with this I would really appreciate some input.the purple kush are beautiful so its got me a little confused as to what they're problem is.the hgk is also not as perky as the pk,they seem to be sagging a bit as well.im using gh 3 part flora and technaflora cal/mag right now.they get 7.5 mil per gallon micro,12.5 mil per gallon grow,2.5 mil per gallon bloom and 5 mil per gallon cal/mag.I cant see it beeing a cal/mag issue.
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h2o2 1.5 mil per gallon
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Ive been hearing good things about this so im going to give it a try
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hgk with the worst def
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same hgk
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they also have a bit of a deformity
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right now the plants are getting fed for 15 min every hr and nothing at night.if anybody has any ideas what that def is please let me know:thanks:
 
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+rep on the vid bro!
 
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Hi Jon -

I'll give you my best guess based on twisty leaves, lower leaves affected, slightly bluish perhaps discolorations, and base nutrient regimen:

I'm thinking it's phosphorus. Why so light on the bloom portion of your 3-part? That's where you'll get most of your phosphorus from, and the 2.5ml per gal doesn't seem like enough to me. For now, try adding them in equal amounts perhaps (for example 8ml of grow, bloom, and micro) or at least bump up the bloom portion of your base nutes a bit - I'd at least double that perhaps. Still under 18 hrs light, right - how soon til flower?

I haven't really had this deficiency before, but I think I'm right on this. What is your PH? Are you confident in your meter? Phosphorus will be taken up better at the lower end of the hydro PH spectrum... say 5.5-5.8 or so. Even in veg, I'd think you'd want to run a higher proportion of bloom in the mix - do you go by suggestions from nute mfg?

:goodluck:
 
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Xlr8 said:
Hi Jon -

I'll give you my best guess based on twisty leaves, lower leaves affected, slightly bluish perhaps discolorations, and base nutrient regimen:

I'm thinking it's phosphorus. Why so light on the bloom portion of your 3-part? That's where you'll get most of your phosphorus from, and the 2.5ml per gal doesn't seem like enough to me. For now, try adding them in equal amounts perhaps (for example 8ml of grow, bloom, and micro) or at least bump up the bloom portion of your base nutes a bit - I'd at least double that perhaps. Still under 18 hrs light, right - how soon til flower?

I haven't really had this deficiency before, but I think I'm right on this. What is your PH? Are you confident in your meter? Phosphorus will be taken up better at the lower end of the hydro PH spectrum... say 5.5-5.8 or so. Even in veg, I'd think you'd want to run a higher proportion of bloom in the mix - do you go by suggestions from nute mfg?

:goodluck:
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Hey X, thanks bigtime bro,I ve never had a def until I switched to these lights so this is new to me.the feeding schedule im using is the full veg recomendation from the mfg but what your saying makes perfect sense to me im going to dbl the bloom to 5 mil per gallon and see what happens.+reps for the quick response bro:thanks:again:)

ps:my ph pen is brand new this round and I calibrate it weekly.I set my ph at 5.5 and let it rise to 6.0-6.1 then bring it back down to 5.5 again.they are still at least a few weeks from flower.Im going to tie them all down 1 more time and top all the main shoots 1 more time before I flip the lights.
 
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Thanks Tony:)X was absolutely right.I went to the gh site and got they're feeding schedule and its slightly different from the one I got from a waterfarm I bought.it says 10 mil micro,10 mil grow and 5 mil bloom for late veg.the one I had said 12.5 grow,7.5 micro and 2.5 bloom.I just did a res change and went with the new schedule and added 5 mil cal/mag per gallon.I think everything will be fine,thanks again X:)
 
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jon705 said:
Hey X, thanks bigtime bro,I ve never had a def until I switched to these lights so this is new to me.the feeding schedule im using is the full veg recomendation from the mfg but what your saying makes perfect sense to me im going to dbl the bloom to 5 mil per gallon and see what happens.+reps for the quick response bro:thanks:again:)

ps:my ph pen is brand new this round and I calibrate it weekly.I set my ph at 5.5 and let it rise to 6.0-6.1 then bring it back down to 5.5 again.they are still at least a few weeks from flower.Im going to tie them all down 1 more time and top all the main shoots 1 more time before I flip the lights.
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That's a very good strategy for PH management. :goodjob:

jon705 said:
i guess I have to spread some rep around before I give you anymore lol...I wont forget
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No worries at all, and no need to catch me later, just hope it helps! One thing, keep in mind that the leaves that have already been affected will never get better, and may yet still look somewhat worse. The key to knowing whether you got things fixed is watching the health of the new growth. As long as the new growth looks good - you should be golden. You probably know all this, but wanted to add that just in case. :)
 
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