My 1st grow
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Miracle grow can be detrimental to your plants for a number of reasons. For one its a heavy salt kind of nutrient meaning that its almost always 100% synthetic nutrients and stays in the plant longer and is harder to flush out at the end not to mention the salt buildup can be deadly for your plants if not kept in check. (and tastes horrible when you smoke it) Make sure you flush the substrate every few weeks if you continue using the MG to keep from having toxic salt buildup. The second is when your dealing with hydroponics you need all the nutrients to be in your solution , everywhere from the micro nutrients to the macro nutrients and MG rarely has any of the macro nutrients needed to support a plant from start to finish unless its in soil and getting its secondary nutes from the soil. And the third reason not to use MG is they sometimes incorporate weed killer in with their nutrient mixes and this for obvious reasons could be very bad for your plant and you if you smoke it or eat it. Some people will give a 4th reason for not using Miracle grow is that they regularly work with people against the pot movement like DOW and the sorts. I am unsure if they do now or what the relationship is between the two but its actually quite common for large companies like MG to get there chemicals from large companies like DOW. In fact General Hydroponics gets some of its chemicals from DOW if Im not mistaken.
What I would suggest is getting on the internet and ordering some nutrient solution from a online hydroponic supply company, thats your best bet. Hydroponic nutrients ARE different than the generic Miracle Grow "plant food" they have at lowes or walmart. And as your plants progress the MG will perform worse and worse unless you flush regularly and dont over do it with the MG. Like I said before though, Im surprised to see people with such healthy looking plants only using MG because MG rarely produces good looking plants. Their usually burned at the tips from the heavy salts and have obvious nute deficiencies of magnesium, calcium, or even less needed nutes but still important like copper, iron and the such. Im no chemist so Im sure there is someone out there that can explain this better than I did but hopefully you get the idea. But hey if its working for ya why change a good thing? just remember that as the plant progresses it needs different nutrients and those may or may not be in the MG plant food and you just might find that when you get to flowering that you need a real hydroponic nutrient to continue flowering the plant properly. Hope that helps guys! let me know if you have any more questions for me. And if so it would probably be a good idea to do it on my thread so we dont clog this grow journal. Peace guys! And stay high!
What I would suggest is getting on the internet and ordering some nutrient solution from a online hydroponic supply company, thats your best bet. Hydroponic nutrients ARE different than the generic Miracle Grow "plant food" they have at lowes or walmart. And as your plants progress the MG will perform worse and worse unless you flush regularly and dont over do it with the MG. Like I said before though, Im surprised to see people with such healthy looking plants only using MG because MG rarely produces good looking plants. Their usually burned at the tips from the heavy salts and have obvious nute deficiencies of magnesium, calcium, or even less needed nutes but still important like copper, iron and the such. Im no chemist so Im sure there is someone out there that can explain this better than I did but hopefully you get the idea. But hey if its working for ya why change a good thing? just remember that as the plant progresses it needs different nutrients and those may or may not be in the MG plant food and you just might find that when you get to flowering that you need a real hydroponic nutrient to continue flowering the plant properly. Hope that helps guys! let me know if you have any more questions for me. And if so it would probably be a good idea to do it on my thread so we dont clog this grow journal. Peace guys! And stay high!
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MI-grower
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I would try to find the {MG} watering can singles that's what I used and it seems to be working out just fine. I found my nutes at Lowes for about 6 bucks. Go easy on the 1st dose to see if ur plants like it, after that use the full dose. 1 packet is enough for 2 gallons of water. Hope this helps you out. I dont know why ur not suppost to use {MG} either so I cant help you on that ? Green has explained it quite well in the above comment.. Thanks 4 helping answer that ???
Thanks for stopping by Jgmilly and Green
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My pleasure! And I would suggest you start with a half dose then a 3/4 dose because rarely is the full dose recommended for MJ with ANY nutrient.
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This is mind boggling the growth in just 20 dayz
Photo taken Nov. 2
Starting at the bottom left corner is U-K#1 next to her is U-K#2 in the Middle is U-K#3 back row white trim bucket is U-K#4 and next to her is U-K#5 b4 lst
Photo taken Nov. 22
In the yellow bucket at the bottom left corner is U-K#3 front row is U-K#5 {lst} next to her is U-K#2 in the back row is U-K#1 and overlooking them all is U-K#4
Photos of the close ups of my babies were in a previous post!!!!!!
Yes I am gonna get U-K#3 up higher so can get more light..
The only nute I used was {MG} 24-8-16
for every1 that has helped me out!!!! Time to find a blooming agent. Any cheap nutes that work well, if you know hit it me up..
Again thank you to the entire 420 community for all of your support and helpful hints..
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Photo taken Nov. 2
Starting at the bottom left corner is U-K#1 next to her is U-K#2 in the Middle is U-K#3 back row white trim bucket is U-K#4 and next to her is U-K#5 b4 lst
Photo taken Nov. 22
In the yellow bucket at the bottom left corner is U-K#3 front row is U-K#5 {lst} next to her is U-K#2 in the back row is U-K#1 and overlooking them all is U-K#4
Photos of the close ups of my babies were in a previous post!!!!!!
Yes I am gonna get U-K#3 up higher so can get more light..
The only nute I used was {MG} 24-8-16
for every1 that has helped me out!!!! Time to find a blooming agent. Any cheap nutes that work well, if you know hit it me up..Again thank you to the entire 420 community for all of your support and helpful hints..
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Geeze, as far as a good blooming agent that you can get at lowes and walmart? I have no idea, but if your looking for a good cheap bloom enhancer liguid Koolbloom from GH is cheap and does a good job. Also Ive heard really good things about carboload from Advanced Nutrients but both of those would have to be bought at a hydro store or an online retailer. Hope that helps!
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Damn straight up. The directions on my package says to use 1 packet/2 gallons of water. I started out with a half dose then and have been watering them with a full dose for about 2 weeks I think
But they seem to been loving it. They've had only had 3 doses of {MG} 1st was at 1/2 and 2 were full doses. Then just water when needed. Thank you for inlightening me with that info. I'll keep that in mind.
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Yes it does I think their is a hydro store in the K-zoo area.
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miracle grow bloom booster
k-grow bloom booster
tiger bloom XD
there are hundreds of blooming products
its all a mattr of what your local shop has and what you can afford i supose
but do try and invest in some molases at least
gave it to my budding plant and its buds exploded
nice growth in only 20 days
k-grow bloom booster
tiger bloom XD
there are hundreds of blooming products
its all a mattr of what your local shop has and what you can afford i supose
but do try and invest in some molases at least
gave it to my budding plant and its buds exploded
nice growth in only 20 days
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Thanks for that info Black. Dude when I looked at those pictures I was like Damn that's like a 400% increase in just 20 dayz!!! You gotta LOVE that
& Love from the GloveThe only nute I used was {MG} 24-8-16
hey mr. glove. I've used shultz plant food plus during flower, and when i upgraded my nutes I gave it to a friend who used it from start to finish and had good results (his ladies actually lookted way better than my first harvest)
the values are 10-15-10. A bunch of ppl here have used it as well and can co-sign
Molasses is similar in many ways to the carbohydrate additives. Its basically all carbs. And if a full dose of MG is working for you than keep at it but generally speaking you rarely use the full recommended dosage of any nutrient out there. Remember they want you to use as much of their product as possible so you have to come back and buy more sooner. Im actually quite surprised that your plants have no problem with a full dose of MG cause usually MG is one of the worst as far as saying you need more fertilizer than you do but hell its been years and years since Ive even used it. All I know is that back 10 years ago when I tried to use it MG screwed my plants up bad at a full dose! A lot could have been changed since then though so maybe MG changed there ingredients or changed their dosing parameters...a lot could have happened between then and now. Ten years is a long ass time, lol.
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I agree with ya on that one ten years is a long time ago!! Maybe I just have a nack for growing? When I water I split the 2gallons between all five of them then water as needed and repeat every seven dayz with nutes. It's not like I'm pouring 2gallons of nute filled water on each one. I think that would more than likely hurt them. That would be a dumb rookie mistake!!!
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thats how its working . you only feed them nutes every 7 days, right? so they get clean water inbetween feedings, yeah? are you allowing them to dry out befor feeding them more nutes or water. SOunds like it. which would make sense. But just be carefull on what you add in conjuction with the M.G.
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Sup Butcher
Here is my watering schdule:
NUTES: Sunday full dose 1 packet per 2gallons of water and spilt between all 5. Its states apply one gallon for every 10 square ft.
WATER: Sunday and Wed. or Thurs.one or the other
I try to give them time to dry out but got get to dry, My big plant that was grown outside last year and was featured in the 1st few pages of my thread needed water about every 4 days give or take.
Blacken told me about MG bloom booster that would work fine with other MG products right?
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ideally yeah they should work in conjunction with one another but be careful of burn as always. I look forward to seeing the buds formed with just using the MG. really curious!
Well I stand up for MG alot. I am using tecnaflora nets myself. But my 'Old Lady' she perfers MG. In the past I used MG grow and blom ferts with great results. Here's one the oldlady just finished MG start to finsh. Sorry to post on your site dude. Your grow is coming along nice. Great really for a first termer.
And she has another going this time around too. It keeps up with mine.
And she has another going this time around too. It keeps up with mine.
Is that soil norcaliwood? or hydro? For hydro thats an amazing looking plant for using MG. You should tell your wife she did an excellent job!! As Im sure she already knows! lol.
MI:Yeah you should be fine. Just be carefull using it. But hey you've done a great job so far.
NorCali:DAMN!! props to the wifey for growwin that cola..
NorCali:DAMN!! props to the wifey for growwin that cola..
