Munki's 576 Watt LED & Hempy Style Flower Power

[Munki]

thanks Munki!

Those are a bit smaller than the 10-liter (2.6gal) rose buckets from Trader Joe's, plus the 1/4" raised bottom, so that makes sense now.

your plants are movin' a lot of water already, they're gonna be monsters

I know and I'm SCARED! Monsters in the closet! It is going to get crowded though. Did not think I would be keeping all the plants but, "C'est la vie"

Very nice grow man. Tent looks very clean too. Keep up the good work.

Thanks LEDGuy and to 420 Magazine!

 

[Munki]

Flower day 16. Ogre is so big that I'm getting nervous moving her around. I'm going to have to rearrange the lights so I can put her in the back. The other 4 ladies are still stable enough for mobility.

Flowering is strong on Master Kush and Ogre is off to the races in that department as well.

Master Kush

Satori 3

Ogre

The clones. Cubes are getting dipped into a 1/4 strength solution with a drop of superthrive. The ones in the wick cloner are ready to be removed. Will attempt that this weekend.

 

[Munki]

Flower day 17. Watered and fed all plants.

Blueberry Wowie

Satori 3

Satori 1

Master Kush

Ogre upper branches. Couldn't get a picture of the whole plant on the table!

 

[619ster]

I suppose the clones are coming along as well? Me like the styleee might have to give it a shot myself depending on your results.

 

[The Lurker]

Hey M.

What do you think of the efficiency of the coverage and penetration on those units? Are they performing up to your expectations so far?

Am I reading that right and your largest is now ~3ft+? Seems as if some of the lower branches are in shadow at this point.

What, if anything, at this point would you do differently, if you were to change the design to better accommodate your particular needs?

Do you think you would see improvements if you were to change the garden instead, and employ these over a nice tight scrog?

Thx mate!

 

[Munki]

I suppose the clones are coming along as well? Me like the styleee might have to give it a shot myself depending on your results.

Yep. You can check them out in my general thread,

The Munki's Playground

See ya over there!

 

[Munki]

Hey M.

What do you think of the efficiency of the coverage and penetration on those units? Are they performing up to your expectations so far?

Am I reading that right and your largest is now ~3ft+? Seems as if some of the lower branches are in shadow at this point.

What, if anything, at this point would you do differently, if you were to change the design to better accommodate your particular needs?

Do you think you would see improvements if you were to change the garden instead, and employ these over a nice tight scrog?

Thx mate!

With this grow, I was not overly concerned with maximizing yield. I wanted to observe the growth characteristics of the plants with minimal intervention from me, so I can then use the best strain for a future application

Things I've learned so far...

Blueberry Wowie, while had slower growing roots on the seed plant, roots quickly when cloned. Flowers rather quickly and holds a column shape well with sturdy stalks. Great Sea of Green (SOG) candidate.

Ogre, longer internodes on branches but form good sub-branches from the main stalk. Those further branch out. This plant is a good candidate for Screen of Green (ScrOG) with low plant count like I did with my 3 x 3 ScrOG grow. BTW, Ogre measured at 3 feet 7 inches last night.

Other properties are coming through, so this grow's primary crop will be its instructive lessons. In future grows, I'll be trying to dial in for performance.

 

[HorseBadoritz]

Munki, nice color to those girls. And that Ogre... Princess Fiona?

 

[Munki]

Munki, nice color to those girls. And that Ogre... Princess Fiona?

Whew! She is off the hook fo sho!

 

[Munki]

Flower day 18. I was busy.

Emptied, rinsed out, and refilled the reservoir. Hooked up the distributor with proper fittings which greatly reduced leaking. Test run went OK. It will take more tweaking over the next few days to get the flow rate set right to all buckets. Since I don't have an easy way to collect overflow with this setup, it may not work long term.

Pulled all plants out, rearranged the lights so the smaller 144s are in the back and the 288 up front. Ogre to back left and Master Kush to back right. Satori and Blueberry Wowie up front so I can still access them as flowering progresses.

Installed a hanging CFL light. 2 2700K 42 watt CFLs (150 watt equivalent). It is hanging low and in the middle of the plants to give the underside some illumination. A bit of a fudge factor for not using growing methods more conducive to these lights like ScrOG.

Pics tomorrow.

 

[herbsnbuds]

I thought LEDs were supposed to prevent or at least help with streching... guess its a strain issue then

 

[Munki]

I thought LEDs were supposed to prevent or at least help with streching... guess its a strain issue then

Only the Ogre is too big to safely move. I connected bamboo sticks to the outside of the bucket and twist tied a few branches to them. The rest are fine. Satori 1 is particularly short. See pics where I have the tape measure out to see the differences.

 

[Munki]

Flower day 19. First day of autowatering. Needed to adjust the flow rates as the Ogre's flood tray nearly overflowed, with the Master Kush and Satori 3 flooding over half way up. No overflow for Satori 1 or Blueberry Wowie, so their flow rate was increased. When it comes to automation, ebb n flow wins hands down over this.

Budding is coming along nicely.

 

[Setting Sun]

When it comes to automation, ebb n flow wins hands down over this.

well, there's more than one way to automate hempies .

your girls are budding up nicely!

 

[flowitheworld]

Hey Munki,

I just read through all your playground and this journal and I am very impressed with what you have going right now it looks great and I love the striaght perlite growing medium. Your babies look healthy and vigorous. I noticed recently you were worrying because your plants werent flipping fast enough like Irish, but I think they look pretty well on track. However I did want to mention I read something a few days ago about how tomato plants (and others Im sure such as the wonderful one we grow) actually prefer more frequent waterings during their vegetative stage and less frequent waterings, allowing the soil to dry out some, during their reproductive stage. Just my 2 cents for ya.

Aniother thing I think remembered you syaing you wanted to treat your seeds to irradiation before planting to increase female ratio. But man do you know what this blast of crippling energy is doing to the molecular structure of the seed itself? I am almost positive that such a treatment actually splits some of the DNA and leads me to beleive that this would destroy some of the genetics and maybe even make it a mutant. Which by the way I think your blueberry wowie might be a mutant because the main stalk seems very thick like it is 2 conjoined stems, dont worry though because sometimes mutants can yield like monsters. I dont know though I am just giving you a heads up and some more information to ponder. Once again nice work with the garden and youll be swimmin in a nice harvest in no time.


flo

 

[HighWaterMark]

Munki, I just finished Volumes I and II. Great stuff for this novice.

flowitheworld, you have a healthy respect for the potential dangers of radiation. Bear in mind that irradiation is a semantically loaded word that gives people the willies. Irradiation means anything from hitting the flashlight to ramping up a gamma knife that can and will kill live cells. The latter is used in cancer therapy to selectively kill off tumors. Think of it like a knife as thin as a subatomic partice wherein only the tip can kill. Some of it's safe, some of it ain't.

We have to get behind Munki's eyes to know what surreal tricks he's concocting to interfere with development of the male seed. Does he want the last family jewel? Is it malicious . . . is it evil? Is it beyond good and evil?

 

[Munki]

well, there's more than one way to automate hempies .

your girls are budding up nicely!

That is true. If I had an elevated flood table, I could be collecting the aggregated runoff in one easy place. The method I'm using requires I get the flow just right to each bucket and their relative nutrient uptakes. Kind of like trying to hit 5 birds flying in all directions with one shotgun blast. Major goal with this rigged up system was to buy me a few days in case I need to leave town.

Hey Munki,

I just read through all your playground and this journal and I am very impressed with what you have going right now it looks great and I love the striaght perlite growing medium. Your babies look healthy and vigorous. I noticed recently you were worrying because your plants werent flipping fast enough like Irish, but I think they look pretty well on track. However I did want to mention I read something a few days ago about how tomato plants (and others Im sure such as the wonderful one we grow) actually prefer more frequent waterings during their vegetative stage and less frequent waterings, allowing the soil to dry out some, during their reproductive stage. Just my 2 cents for ya.

Aniother thing I think remembered you syaing you wanted to treat your seeds to irradiation before planting to increase female ratio. But man do you know what this blast of crippling energy is doing to the molecular structure of the seed itself? I am almost positive that such a treatment actually splits some of the DNA and leads me to beleive that this would destroy some of the genetics and maybe even make it a mutant. Which by the way I think your blueberry wowie might be a mutant because the main stalk seems very thick like it is 2 conjoined stems, dont worry though because sometimes mutants can yield like monsters. I dont know though I am just giving you a heads up and some more information to ponder. Once again nice work with the garden and youll be swimmin in a nice harvest in no time.


flo

Plants are now coming around nicely, though some plants kick in faster than others. The Ogre is slowly flowering. I think it may have to do with more Sativa genetics in its profile. Blueberry Wowie and Master Kush have burgeoning flower balls on their tops. The Satori are in the same amount of flowering days but are 10 days younger than the others. This may have an effect on the flowering conversion rate. I no longer think I'm in the same delayed flowering boat that IrishBoy had.

The seed irradiation idea was not mine. I think DocBud came up with that. I did follow some of his germination ideas and did get 100 % females from seed (5 out of 5).

The Blueberry Wowie has a stout stalk without a doubt. It was topped so it has two main branches like the others, but this plant's strong and stiff stems relative to branch weight makes the the branches it has to go straight up. It does not tend to spread out like the other strains. If I grew this again, I would recommend lollipoping the plant by trimming the lower branches before going into flower and growing many of them in a Sea of Green.

Thanks for your input, flowitheworld!

 

[flowitheworld]

Munki, I just finished Volumes I and II. Great stuff for this novice.

flowitheworld, you have a healthy respect for the potential dangers of radiation. Bear in mind that irradiation is a semantically loaded word that gives people the willies. Irradiation means anything from hitting the flashlight to ramping up a gamma knife that can and will kill live cells. The latter is used in cancer therapy to selectively kill off tumors. Think of it like a knife as thin as a subatomic partice wherein only the tip can kill. Some of it's safe, some of it ain't.

We have to get behind Munki's eyes to know what surreal tricks he's concocting to interfere with development of the male seed. Does he want the last family jewel? Is it malicious . . . is it evil? Is it beyond good and evil?

Right on then HighWater, now that you say that I did remember someone saying irradiation with 660 nm light, which is not in a potentially destructive energy wavelength. I was thinking higher energy irradiation, but I guess what you said makes a good point. That just about any kind of light pretreatment can be called irradiation. That makes me feel a little better then. Good to learn.

flo

 

[Munki]

Flower day 20. Made some adjustments to flow rates and manually topped off some buckets. Plants will be very thirsty at this period of growth, so I don't want them to miss a beat. Watered all 16 clone hempy cups as well. Pics tomorrow.

 

[HighWaterMark]

Right on then HighWater, now that you say that I did remember someone saying irradiation with 660 nm light, which is not in a potentially destructive energy wavelength. I was thinking higher energy irradiation, but I guess what you said makes a good point. That just about any kind of light pretreatment can be called irradiation. That makes me feel a little better then. Good to learn.

flo

Yes, yes. Hey, Flo; 660nm is a visible, deep orange color. As such, not dangerous. However when you are dealing with something about which you are unsure, healthy skepticism rules. Always question the dominant paradigm and at least you'll have a cooler peer group.

Munki, I'm curious about the predominance of females you got. What was your method? I've always wanted to learn this trade secret that seems to involve physiological stress of some sort.