MSquared's Organic Soil Indoor 4 Strain Grow - Perpetual

[MSquared]

~~Monday Update~~

I went to check on my clone babies as I normally do quite often when I am home and I found this:
This one was one of the smaller set of roots all the others were growing well outside of their pellets! The roots were coming out the bottoms and sides.
Which means it is time to transplant them!

I have these last 2 rounds have had a 100% success rate cloning. This group of 8 were 9 days old
This is what I do:
I use Jiffy Peat Pellets:
Soak the pellet(s) in water/fertilizer combo (low N) and squeeze into shape, squeeze out excess water and push a nail into top to make hole for clone which should be roughly 1/2 inch from the bottom.
I shape the pellet to my needs and squeeze into the weight I want for moisture control so they all start out roughly the same weight.
I weigh out each pellet for moisture. Not too wet and not to dry.
I like to keep the temps inside the dome at 80 with high humidity in the 80s as well.

now on the the transplanting....

I lable each pot with their name and then prep my soil. I use pro mix, perlite and mg prills. I then add 2tbl/gal of Lime to the soil. so for these I used a tablespoons worth as these are 1/2gal posts.

Here are 3 of the 8 I had to transplant

Here they are sitting in their new home for the next several weeks along side their sisters!

So needless to say I am very stoked about these clones!
I hope everyone has a great week

 

[Twelve12]

Nice perpetual you got going on! How far a part is each cycle? I'm trying to set one up every two weeks instead of every month.

 

[MSquared]

Nice perpetual you got going on! How far a part is each cycle? I'm trying to set one up every two weeks instead of every month.

Thanks!
The first round I waited until the flowering was finished before I put the next group (the current group in FLR) into flower. Now that I know all of them are ladies that is in FLR and VEG, I will do them roughly a month apart.
With the size of pots (6.5gal) I am using I will be able to fit 12 in the FLR room.
I have 7 currently and I wan to put at least 4 more in there in the next couple of weeks and then 4 more when the current group finished up.
So after all that wind I just blew it comes down to about 4 (4 really big plants) a month for my perpetual.
I hope this answer your questions and come by anytime!

 

[MSquared]

~~Picture/Information Update Part 1 FLR Room Day 25~~
I have added bamboo stakes to the gals in FLR.
The height chart shows that they are big and I am really hoping I need to use the stakes to hold up their flowers!
I have put in a new AC unit and it is keeping lights on temps below 80! which is where I really needed the temps to be. So I am pretty stoked about that.
Here is the height chart and as you can see they are still growing... it is past day 21 so hopefully they will slow down as bcr2 is almost 50" and I am starting to run out of height.

Here are a bunch of minor bud porn for everyone and just some great looking ladies:
Here is CC1:

This is CC2:

This is some of the tops of CC2:

This is the top of RB3:

Random group shot...

I will post part 2 shortly.
Enjoy and as always please let me know if you have any comments, questions or just random thoughts...

 

[MSquared]

~~ Picture/Information Update Part 2 Clones Day 29~~

Here are all the pretty little ladies of VEG. As you can see by the height chart they are growing pretty well. I think a few (hopefully 4) will be big enough to put into FLR in a couple of weeks to keep my perpetual on schedule.
Here is the height chart for the clones:

Here is a group shot from 8/22

Here is another group shot from 8/22

Here is the group shot from this morning and as you can see I have moved them around and repositioned the light for max coverage. I like to keep my CFL bank about 1 to 2" above them.

Here is the shot of Conf 1e that I have been photojournaling

I watered them yesterday and they took about 10z of good ole water.

Thanks everyone for stopping by and please leave a comment or question.

 

[MSquared]

~~Question~~

I have 2 clones that are just not doing well, wilty and the like. All of the others are doing simply great. I have put the 2 in the "hospital" so to speak. I have put them back under a clear dome and raised the temp and humidity to 80 and giving them diffused light.
I don't know if I showed transplant them, but I will if I have to.
I will take a pic of them tomorrow to show everyone.
Has anyone else had this happen and if so what recommendations do you have?? I am willing to try anything on these 2.
Thanks for all who respond!

 

[MSquared]

~~Clones in Hospital Update~~

well I took a look at them this morning and after feeding them a little transplant juice and keeping them in the dome they are surprisingly looking much better, even a little new growth.

Here is a shot of the regular clones on the veg bench, they are lookin super duper good with the glow of the CFL bank

I hope everyone enjoys!!

 

[Doc Bud]

Good job getting your temps dialed in. You will be rewarded for that very good decision.

Everything looks really good.....just back off a bit on the MG....nothing wrong with the product.....just use a bit less. I'm basing that on the growth pattern and the leaves.

If I were you, I'd do a giant flush/feed with the MOL and AFF and H20......about 3x the volume of each container. It's gonna take a long, long time compared to just watering, but you'll wash out enough salts to restart the bud production and insure even better taste.

Maybe a small dose of that Plant Tone in the final gallon of water....

 

[MSquared]

Good job getting your temps dialed in. You will be rewarded for that very good decision.

Everything looks really good.....just back off a bit on the MG....nothing wrong with the product.....just use a bit less. I'm basing that on the growth pattern and the leaves.

If I were you, I'd do a giant flush/feed with the MOL and AFF and H20......about 3x the volume of each container. It's gonna take a long, long time compared to just watering, but you'll wash out enough salts to restart the bud production and insure even better taste.

Maybe a small dose of that Plant Tone in the final gallon of water....

Thanks for stopping by and glad you are back! yeah I went with the new mg prills which seem really awesome and have everything our beloved plants would want, but as you said many a times with the oc+ that if you can't control temps then they will release to much... That is what happened to me...

That is exactly what I am going to do to 3 of the ladies that just aren't coming around.
4 of them look super good, especially the 2 Conf Cheeses.
again thanks for stopping by!!
comment anytime!!

 

[MSquared]

~~Happy Friday 420!~~

Well I hope that everyone is safe that is in the path of Irene.
Good Luck to all and let me just say that I am one of those in the path, but we have taken the necessary precautions.

The girls are doing well. I flushed the 3 girls that were having problem last night with 20gal of diluted feed solution as doc suggested. D@mn that took some time to get that kind of water through them. checked on them this morning and they look about the same so we will see.
I fed the other girls in FLR with 168z with 2tbl AFF and 10mil mol
to everyone and good Luck!!

 

[MSquared]

~~Monday Picture/Information Update~~

Everyone in the FLR room is doing well and on target so far.
I flushed a couple of them and hope to see some improvemnet from them soon.
They are still growing but have slowed down some. Thank goodness to becasue one of them is 49" from its base.

Here is the height chart for the FLR room

Here is a group shot of the right side of the flr room

This is one of the RBs

This is one of the tops of cc2, she has many

This is a full length shot of cc2

Here is the full length shot oc cc1 she is 38" from her base

On to the Clones....

They are doing real well and gowing really fast. I noticed when I went to water that a few of them the water ran straight to the bottom. I thought root bound... so I transplanted 4 of them and I was right.

Here is the group shot of the clones

Here are 2 of the new transplants

Here are the other 2 new transplants

Here is conf 1e that I have been photojournalling so far

They are all doing really well so far. I hope they keep it up and I will upload a height chart for the clones tomorrow.
Thanks and

 

[MSquared]

~~ Clones Height Chart Update~~

All of them are doing well. I am very happy to say I will be transplanting up to 4 more clones in the next couple of days.
I will document the process of my transplanting from soil building to watering them so stay tuned for that.
here is the clones height chart - if you notice the bl next to their name it means they are in the Big Black Pots.

here is the clones2 height chart:

they are all growing with such vigor! I am very excited to see them fully mature as this group is my first full run of successful clones.
I know I have 2 in FLR (cc1 and cc2), but those were the only 2 survivors of a very failed experiment in aero cloning...
as always I welcome any comments questions general thoughts!

 

[MSquared]

Good Morning 420!

As some of you have seen over at GoldenGoose7's journal there has been some discussion on Alfalfa tea or brew as I like to call it. I am documenting the process for all to see and share. I used it by accident really my first grow, but not in this manner.
I will give a parts list, pictures and process tommorrow!

Otherwise the plants are all looking really good. FLR room is budding out nicely and the VEg is just exploding with growth - pics tomorrow on these as well.
Have a great day 420!

 

[papatater]

Great grow and pics glad you made it thru the storm

 

[MSquared]

Great grow and pics glad you made it thru the storm

thank you very much for stopping by and yeah we made it through just fine, just hope no more come rolling through

come by anytime!

 

[Twelve12]

Hey MS, plants looking great. I like how you keep a chart details of your grow. You've inspired me to start one. Usually I just keep it all mental but that can really get mental. How is the Miracle grow slow release doing? Have you try Scott OC+ slow release?

 

[MSquared]

Hey MS, plants looking great. I like how you keep a chart details of your grow. You've inspired me to start one. Usually I just keep it all mental but that can really get mental. How is the Miracle grow slow release doing? Have you try Scott OC+ slow release?

Thank you much LOL I know how it is and thats why I started my excel workbook funny enough named SINTR which stands for shit I need to remember

It is working fabulously, you just have be able to keep your temps below 80 otherwise it will leach to much nutes into the soil. I use a personalized soil blend for my ladies which works great!

I have not tried OC+ yet, but funny enough scott's owns mg anyway...
Thanks for stopping by and come by anytime!

 

[MSquared]

~~Alfalfa Brew with AFF (alaska fish fert) & MOL (organic blackstrap molasses)~~

Good Afternoon 420!
As I have posted in a couple journals about building and implementing my own brew/tea setup. Here are all the pieces you need to accomplish this yourselves.

Parts List:
20Gal tote w/lid - 7 @ HD
20Gal whisper air pump - 10 @ petsmart
6' of air line - 2 @ petsmart
5" airstone - 1.50 @ petsmart
1qt of AFF - 8 @ HD
1qt of mol - 4 @ health food store
1 bag of Alfalfa - price varies based on size of bag I got a 25lb bag for 17 @ a feed store

Here is the receipe I am working with: of course I amended it for my setup
ALFALFA TEA Recipe

20 GALLON TRASH CAN or Container with Lid
16 CUPS ALFALFA PELLETS (obtained from feed stores)
1/2 BLACKSTRAP MOL/Agave
1 CUP FISH EMULSION

Add the pellets to the container. Fill container with water. Stir a lot or turn on air pump with airstone. Cover container tightly with lid. For the next three days stir "tea" several times a day in order to dissolve the pellets. Keep covered. On the third day add fish emulsion and MOL. It is ready to use on any vegetable, plant, tree or bush.
Let stand for up to one week until it bubbles with fermentation. Your nose will tell you that it's ready and boy this is the truth...

So here we go....
Here is my container with 10gal of water with airstone pumping away.
This is the whisper I have

This is after a few days of bubbling away and boy you can smell it when you remove the lid...

Next I add the Aff and Mol let that bubble for another day and then use it on your ladies

I also mark the side of the container so I wouldn't have to measure out my water again. I can just add the hose to it and fill.
I took this picture about half way through my feeding.

so there you have it. Please all comments questions are WELCOME!
Have a great day!

 

[MSquared]

~~A Little Clone Info/Pic Update~~

I had to trans 4 more clones, they were just getting a little root bound in the 1/2 gal container they were in. so 2 went into my big pots (7gal i think) and 2 went into the 4 gal pots I had from my previous run.

So here is veg...
This is the group remaining in the 1/2 gal pots. a few are starting to yellow a bit so I fed them a little aff to help with the n def.

Here is the new group which is doing just great!

I hope everyone here at 420 has a great labor day weekend!!
to all!

 

[Doc Bud]

You're doing a superb job, my friend! Keep up the good work!

I especially like the out-of-the-box thinking on the MG nutes!
And I LOVE the alfalfa tea! One thing you might consider regarding the tea.....


AFF will produce a tea that favors fungi over bacteria. Fungi are more beneficial for woody plants and trees....stuff that grows for several years or more. Our favorite plants like more of a bacterial tea, which you could get by adding worm castings and a dash of compost instead of the AFF....brewed the same way you're doing your alfalfa tea, along with the alfalfa.