Mother of Berries, M.O.B. Maine Strain

I needed to get her chopped as I have some stuff coming up so need to be ready to go. She was flushed yes. She smells great: nice and dense too. Let her sit for 24 hours in darkness to see if the speculation of additional resin production turned out to be fruitful endeavor, it seems to be to some degree but not something I would preach on a wide spread basis. I used Skybounds suggestions and seems to be working great. Would have liked to keep her going a bit longer but had to get it done.
 
From what another very well seasoned grower on here has said , the dark period (he usually does 2 days I think) is actually more about letting the plant release any water and nutes it may be holding onto back into the soil. That way when you chop it is the cleanest it can be. I believe they mentioned having a better over all dry and cure process because of it.
 
TheGreenYeti said:
From what another very well seasoned grower on here has said , the dark period (he usually does 2 days I think) is actually more about letting the plant release any water and nutes it may be holding onto back into the soil. That way when you chop it is the cleanest it can be. I believe they mentioned having a better over all dry and cure process because of it.
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I will have to investigate that further and see what information turns up. If true (I'm not saying it's not) would be a very useful process to use. "Trust but verify" - Ronald Reagan
 
Duggan said:
Beaves...she is perfect ...she is "in the pipe...five,...by five". Name that movie!:) ( Nis , stay out of this) Take her with a lot of aggression :thedoubletake:(he's a bad dude!)... ,..as Nis said,..when time permits,..preferably, at the end of a good 24 hrs. in the dark. She will dump nutrients and fluids back into the soil, and be ripe for the trimmin. What an awesome job Beaves. Her trich pics indicate ripeness, some clear, some milky, some amber. More milky than clear....:)
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This is not the best one but it was the first one I could find. I can ask him to explain it a little better in his own words if you would like.
 
It's certainly logical but the question from that is: is 24 hours sufficient to ensure this cycle is complete and at what point does lack of contact with sunlight and nutrients actively begins to cause degradation of the plant and its various properties and if any what might be the adverse effects on terpenoids? With a rapid dump of fluids wouldn't this suggest faster drying which inherently is ill advised as it relates to chlorophyl breakdown, etc. what would be the result of a before and after chemical or lab test on a plant in either a case of before or after or at different intervals (24 hours, 36, 48, 72 and so on). What I'm reading makes a lot of sense, no doubt but I'm inquiring about the scientific evidence that supports this information or if they are popular myths based on half-truths and incomplete information? I will definitely be doing something along these lines if I can't find anything online and probably so even if I do and share the data with community.
 
I get the skepticism and your want to study it further. I have not done the 24 hour dark period or longer. I run in such a way that it is not possible. Between heightened tric production and allowing excess moisture and nutes to dump out I feel that the second is the more accurate of the two even though it may be wrong as well. I am interested to see what you find :thumb:
 
I'm having difficulty embracing the logic of the dark period dump. In the traditional sense of growing, a plant pulls water and food from the substrate for its whole life, so what then would trigger such a complete reversal? I comprehend the flush being a beneficial practice growers use to force the plants to consume nutrient stores from leaves and other non vital growth (everything bud the precious bud) by only adding water, but shutting off the water totally and leaving the plant to sit there in the dark? I would like some links if any of you guys/gals have some on this subject, because if it has merit, I can actually work something like that into my perpetual grow just by pulling a potted plant from bloom and stick it in a closet or something with maybe a trash bag over it. Then I could stick the next round of bloom right in. Like I said though, I can't see the logic of it.
 
Skybound said:
I'm having difficulty embracing the logic of the dark period dump. In the traditional sense of growing, a plant pulls water and food from the substrate for its whole life, so what then would trigger such a complete reversal? I comprehend the flush being a beneficial practice growers use to force the plants to consume nutrient stores from leaves and other non vital growth (everything bud the precious bud) by only adding water, but shutting off the water totally and leaving the plant to sit there in the dark? I would like some links if any of you guys/gals have some on this subject, because if it has merit, I can actually work something like that into my perpetual grow just by pulling a potted plant from bloom and stick it in a closet or something with maybe a trash bag over it. Then I could stick the next round of bloom right in. Like I said though, I can't see the logic of it.
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When I experimented with the 24 hour bit I didn't notice much of a difference and you do make a valid point as to what would trigger reversal unless. I have never seen any evidence of any kind to support this conclusion and all I've found is what 'someone told them' (since Yeti and I had the convo). Unless someone provides this information and can be verified I'm unlikely to stick with it.
 
Skybound said:
I'm having difficulty embracing the logic of the dark period dump. In the traditional sense of growing, a plant pulls water and food from the substrate for its whole life, so what then would trigger such a complete reversal? I comprehend the flush being a beneficial practice growers use to force the plants to consume nutrient stores from leaves and other non vital growth (everything bud the precious bud) by only adding water, but shutting off the water totally and leaving the plant to sit there in the dark? I would like some links if any of you guys/gals have some on this subject, because if it has merit, I can actually work something like that into my perpetual grow just by pulling a potted plant from bloom and stick it in a closet or something with maybe a trash bag over it. Then I could stick the next round of bloom right in. Like I said though, I can't see the logic of it.
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Plants do not drink when they sleep, which is why it is suggested that you water in the beginning of their day. It would make sense to me that water would be released back into the soil while the plant sleeps. The nutes I can see there being skepticism about unless they are only mobile due to water uptake. I do not have any thing to back this since i do not do it. As I said it makes more sense than any noticeable frost difference being achieved. I just wanted to present an alternate theory than the one that always flies around.
 
All POV is welcome as it allows us to keep open minds and stay thoughtful about what we are doing and broadens our knowledge of the do and do nots of marijuana cultivation.
 
I will definitely keep up my logs with new plants and I do like the LED a little smaller then I imagined I will have to figure out a way to use the LED, T5 and CFL to power an 8 plant grow... probably will look at highly reflective material (not foil). I wonder if mirrors would work without burning anything? I've also heard of panda film that reflects light extremely well. Supposedly the best there is.
Viagrow Panda Film 25 ft. x 10 ft. Black and White Poly Film 5.5ml-VPANDA25 - The Home Depot
 
Panda film is the way to go. I believe that it is rated as 99%+ reflective. I would not use mirrors or foil. They create hot spots and can burn plants. The foil I believe absorbs light and just releases heat. Panda film is cheap and works well.

LED panels are nice but they do not cover as much space as one would hope. A multi panel set up works out pretty well in most cases. I am sure you will find a way to make your light set up work for you.
 
Panda film is next on my list will probably have to buy a bunch. I'll also be using smart pots for all of the plants as they are clearly imo the best option for growing.

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I will have to do that, anything I can do to boost production is helpful. As I mentioned sometime in the past I'm working with wiring from the 50s so have to be super careful . I may consider a standalone option such as creating my own circuit or solar panels, however until that happens, here I am.
 
I have a circuit breaker in basement. I have read that grow lights can power the solar panels however in theory this would take away from the plants. Will have to get creative. My T5 runs about 120W and my LED is 300W if I plug the LED into the T5 do you believe that could pose a fire risk? I tried for 10 min just out of curiosity and didn't notice heat or smell of burning wire although I surmise something like this can take longer. The warning on the LED is not to surpass 1000 True Watts so I'm thinking even at half the limit for T5 I should still be ok, especially when LED is comparable to 250 MH/HPS (according to manufacturer)
 
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