Mechanic's Log: WW, AK-47, FFof Soil, Screw-In LEDs

Backlipslide said:
Dude! :thumb:

Each plant looked better then the last! You’ve got some great smoke! Congrats again!

I agree with big d

Those are, huge cuttings, for that size of pot :thedoubletake:


I think you should keep them in this journal as, the mother of those cuttings, are from this journal. Just my opinion though!!:thumb:
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Thank you... Im super happy with the WW’s. Can’t wait for the smoke.

I should be getting some more soil tomorrow so I’ll will be able to transplant into the 1 gallon pots I have, then eventually the 5 gallon. They have been crying for bigger pots for months now.

And I think your right... I’ll just keep the same journal.
 
If those roots have taken, I would just transplant it into the 5 gal rather then the 1 gal. You will be glad you did! Those cuttings are huge! Lol
 
Hell yeah, darn nice looking nuggage. Hope you don't mind if I stick around and watch those clones take off. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your journal. Keep up the good work
 
Backlipslide said:
If those roots have taken, I would just transplant it into the 5 gal rather then the 1 gal. You will be glad you did! Those cuttings are huge! Lol
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The roots are about 10 weeks old actually... haha. I think I might have confused some people when I called them clones. I didn’t have room to grow these babies so I’ve kept them root bound and “stunted” in their little cups. So they are established plants, but they are the clones of my WW#1 that I took over 10 weeks ago.

And thank you for the advise but I like up potting sort of slowly. I feel like going from solos to a 1 gallon then from a 1 gallon to 5 gallon gives me the best chance at a good root system and less chance of overwatering. It’s worked out great my past 2 soil grows. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Now I’m not sure exactly how I’m going to train these babies after they get fresh soil, I expect to see a lot of growth after transplant and I think I will have to chop them down a lot before they get their 5 gallon pots. I should start with fresh clones but I think these “old” ladies will be ok. I’ll make one of them a mother and use my 2x2 tent for what it was intended, a veg/mother room.
 
MightyMoe22 said:
Hell yeah, darn nice looking nuggage. Hope you don't mind if I stick around and watch those clones take off. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your journal. Keep up the good work
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Thank you... stick around as long as you want. :welcome: I’ll try to keep it interesting.
 
WW#1 round two.

10+ week old babies just now getting transplanted into 1 gallon pots.

I mixed up the same soils as last time. 75% Fox Farm Ocean Forest and 25% Fox Farm Light Warrior. I will not be using any hydroton this time because I ran out and it’s not really necessary. I did add some Great White mycorrhiza to the mix, I’m not sure the exact amount tho, probably 2 or 3 tablespoons. And I also sprinkled some on the roots and the hole I made for the root ball during transplant into the 1 gallon pots.

Here’s some pics.

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They look a little sad right now but they should be looking up and happy within the next few days.
 
Once those roots plant their feet and start expanding, they will really take off!!

I still think you should have transplanted into 5 gal rather then 1 gal. But your in control of the wheel not me!

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I agree that the plants are big enough for a 5 gallon pot but I’m focused on building roots right now. Going from the solo cups to a 1 gallon pot will allow me to build a good rootball much faster than going straight to a bigger pot, regardless of plant size. Trust me, up potting slowly is the way to go, and many growers on here will tell you the same.
 
I've heard people say that up potting slowly is a good thing, but I don't understand the science behind it. Do you happen to know what it is?
 
@BigD13 .I wish I could find the article that helped me understand. But since I can’t ill try and explain it, horribly probably so give me a break. Haha.

There are several reasons it could better for someone to up pot multiple times before planting into the final chosen pot. Everyone has a style that works for them but I like this one because it gives me the most control over the wet and dry cycles of the soil.

Planting into a pot that is roughly double the size of the current pot means I don’t have to wait as long between wet and dry cycles like I would if I went straight to a 5 gallon pot. Its important for the soil at the bottom of the pot to dry out so the roots go searching laterally for water. A lot of the time people will put a small clone into a huge container of soil and wonder why the plant looks sad and is not growing vigorously. It’s because the soil is taking weeks to dry out and the roots are staying saturated at the bottom of the pot and are not searching for more water. The more you let your roots go searching for water the stronger of a root ball you will grow.

I hope that helps a little, there is a ton of details that I just could not formulate into written words.

If I can find that article that helped me I’ll make sure to post a link to it.
 
Hey @BigD13 I found what I was looking for.. it’s a paragraph from a post by @Emilya

Here’s the whole post here The Proper Way To Water A Potted Plant

“Why do we up-pot?
The art of successive up-potting is important in growing a healthy root system. People like to be lazy. I am constantly seeing new gardeners take a little sprig of a weed and put it in a big 3 or 5 gallon container, thinking that they have done a good thing, and are now done with it... it's on to harvest time! The problem is, this doesn't work, because it gives you zero control over developing the roots, and without crazy watering techniques, almost no chance of a solid root ball forming. It is imperative to successively up pot your plants through stages so that the root system can roughly take on the same size and shape as the plant in order to get the maximum productivity. The roots grow aggressively in these weeds, and if you confine them to a container the size of the plant, they will fill that space in a short time with a dense root system. Putting a plant in an oversized container can and often does, result in all the roots going to the bottom, drowning the plant, root rot and overall poor health because of a lack of a root ball, and certainly less than optimum harvests. It is important to force these weeds into producing a root ball at various stages, to give the plant the ability later on to take in the massive amounts of nutrients needed to produce lots of quality buds.
The plants in the smaller containers can also more directly show you when they are thriving or more importantly when they are not. A strong healthy plant will eventually outgrow its container and an observant gardener is carefully watching the length of time between wet/dry cycles, and directly relating shorter cycles with more robust roots. A smaller container also gives the gardener the ability to see when the moment arrives that the amount of soil the plant is in is no longer large enough for the plant's abilities to be happy in it, because it will be obvious when the plant can drain the water that soil is able to hold, in less than 24 hours. Your soil and your container at that point have ceased at that point to be a good enough buffer, and it is time to double the space the roots have to work with. Let your plant show you when that time is, and try not to make decisions for her.”

-Words from the wise @Emilya
 
That’s the only reason I say they could have went into 5 gal. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for up potting gradually, but not starting at ten weeks.

All those leaves are telling me that those roots are not happy.

Going into a 1 gal, will make them happy for the time being, but at the rate of growth of those roots, they will outgrow the 1 gal pot in no time and be demanding another transplant.

Instead of stressing the plant out twice in such a short period of time. I personally would have went strait into 5 gal pots.

With the right watering methods, you will not, over/under water your plants.

But hey! That’s just me bro!

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Backlipslide said:
That’s the only reason I say they could have went into 5 gal. Don’t get me wrong I’m all for up potting gradually, but not starting at ten weeks.

All those leaves are telling me that those roots are not happy.

Going into a 1 gal, will make them happy for the time being, but at the rate of growth of those roots, they will outgrow the 1 gal pot in no time and be demanding another transplant.

Instead of stressing the plant out twice in such a short period of time. I personally would have went strait into 5 gal pots.

With the right watering methods, you will not, over/under water your plants.

But hey! That’s just me bro!

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I get you man it kinda makes sense thinking about it that way.

But check this out, Im counting on the plants outgrowing those pots soon, I’m not worried about that, transplanting done properly is not that stressful to the plants. Also for me a 5 gallon pot full of soil will stay wet for about 10 days or more in my environment after uppotting a fully established 1 gallon root ball. So going to 5 gallon pot from a solo cup root ball, I will not get my first dry soil period till probably 2 weeks after transplant. With a 1 gallon pot I guess we will see... hopefully less than a week cuz I need to build roots as fast as I can right. ;)

Your definitely right about the roots not being happy... they are 10 weeks old in a solo cup. Haha. And it shows on the plants leaves of course. Don’t look at the size, age, or condition of the plant above ground. It’s obviously in a sad condition right now. Instead look at my tiny solo cup root ball in the pictures above, it needs proper wet/dry cycles AND a container not too much larger than the original root ball to grow a healthy, “new”, and bigger root ball. And like I said in an earlier post, I may need to cut the plants themselves down after I get all the new growth I will undoubtably see... before I switch to flower I will match the size of the plant above ground to the size root ball below ground.

Thank you everybody for adding your suggestions.
 
I think they'll be fine. I've transplanted lots of different types of plants, and it seems like it take a couple of days for them to get back to normal. I bet in a couple of weeks they'll be growing like crazy with lots of new growth.
 
Hello community...

Today is day 3 since up potting my “old ladies” to 1 gallon pots. They are looking a bit happier than a few days ago except for the possible light stress. I’m not surprised since I had them under 36 watts of light before they went to the big tent where I blasted them right away with 168 watts of lighting (14 bulbs).

I said in a post 2 days ago that I wanted “more light than I probably needed” and I guess that’s exactly what I got. Anyway this supposed light stress is mainly happening on the center plant where, I would assume, the most light overlapping happens. I have the face of the lightbulbs 16 to 18 inches over the tops of the ladies and I’m only running 120 watts right now with 10 bulbs in my current fancy pattern. Haha. These LED bulbs are surprisingly powerful for store bought household lighting I must say. So... I’m just going to move the center plant over to the left side of the tent and see what happens.


Here are some pics... check out the fans that are starting to fold at the leaf edges... that’s light stress right.? I did just up pot so something else could be happening but I’m not worried yet.

These babies need to harden up anyway. They’ve had it easy for too long... I need cash, grass or munchies, no free rent for anyone. Haha. The widows gladly agreed on providing me with some grass, but the quantity and quality will be dependent on my... hospitality. I will try not to disappoint these ladies. Haha.

Anyway... here’s those pictures.

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Sometimes leaves will tend to cup or curl down due to root problems, , but sometimes the curl upwards too, like the poor plant below (this was caused by poor drainage and plant was overwatered, leading to a pretty severe case of root problems):
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