McLoadie's Third Grow Journal

[mcloadie]

If everything is in the soil... Most likely the PH is off and prohibiting the uptake of nutrients. Flush... let it dry out some... flush again. Check PH and then... probably only need to water for a week after that. Recheck the PH and maybe hit it with some 1/2 strength Flower nutes.

If you can't get it figured out... just continue on. She will finish with less leaves than the others but that's not always a bad thing

Yeah scar, I've done everything I can and need to give em some time to see if my plan will give some results. These are the fussiest ass plants from this strain I've grown, but I am using nutes that are new to me too!

 

[fish cake]

good weed and morning Mc.
I think all those meters are making you trip. your girls look good to me.
meters and cell phones, how ever did we survive before they were invented?

 

[wildbill38]

Good weed MC and family.

 

[mcloadie]

good weed and morning Mc.
I think all those meters are making you trip. your girls look good to me.
meters and cell phones, how ever did we survive before they were invented?

Mornin and good weed fishy, this is going to be interesting, have you seen the forecast for az?, I am going to take advantage of the experience and suck up the details. I had plants outdoors at this time last year. I planted 3 young plants on july 5 last year and they grew ok, I had to change my view of what a big plant is since I moved here, but I don't have a place I can really stretch myself and see just what I can do here if I could just grow openly without my landlord bein a dick about it. I gave the boys the last 14 cuts I'm gonna root for em to put outside. The plants that I'm monitoring are doing ok I guess....they are chewed up by bugs, pissed on by male dogs, wilting all the time, but are going to produce. They all foxtailed except for the skunk, I need to get some pics, they have some interesting mutation like growths, but when it's over a hundred for many days, and all I'm supplying are flowering nutes it's a wonder they even grow. The only two plants not sexed are the skunks, and they both look like females to me, dudes are nervous about timing and have asked me to tell em when to do what, I take the nutes over, and dude has been putting em on pretty good, rather than me going over there and seeing two weeks worth of applications still in there concentrated forms....whatever.....I'm thinkin around 10 pounds off of these 12 plants.

 

[mcloadie]

Good weed MC and family.

Good weed to you wild bill, I haven't been as active lately, just givin loadie the attention instead of the mag!

 

[Sinsemillas]

Flush, and with a lower PH then 6.5 feed them with chelated vitamins/minerals. Im afraid you have a Manganese (Mn) immobile mineral deficiency. Its not that bad yet, but if it keeps on getting worst, photosyntesis will be affected! Its quite common indoors bro! It wont affect your buds.. YET! but the slower the photosyntesis, the slower the glucose intake/processing will be.

Irie bro, Girls are looking boombastic!

 

[mcloadie]

Flush, and with a lower PH then 6.5 feed them with chelated vitamins/minerals. Im afraid you have a Manganese (Mn) immobile mineral deficiency. Its not that bad yet, but if it keeps on getting worst, photosyntesis will be affected! Its quite common indoors bro! It wont affect your buds.. YET! but the slower the photosyntesis, the slower the glucose intake/processing will be.

Irie bro, Girls are looking boombastic!

Thanks sinse! I have some of that stuff to work with, and used it recently. I have been doing fine until I try something new, I have always been challenged with the flowering process.....but last run I got good results with a method I tried that only uses a coupla different items...along with the cyclical treatments I always give.....I need to get back to the organics.....my best results so far!

 

[invi]

Hey McLoadie!

Buds grow like insane - the issues you seem to have didn't hinder them too much!
Or you found the proper treatment already?

If i remember right you kept using natural well water? I used a drilled well too earlier, it had around 1.0 ec and 8ish pH - if yours is similar the too much Ca theory could even be reality.
Have you done any analysis on the water finally?

Not that you seem to need any help based on how your plants look, but i like to rumble with a joint in my hand anyway, sorry for that

Good weed!
And morning, if i figure the time of day proper.

 

[mcloadie]

Hey McLoadie!

Buds grow like insane - the issues you seem to have didn't hinder them too much!
Or you found the proper treatment already?

If i remember right you kept using natural well water? I used a drilled well too earlier, it had around 1.0 ec and 8ish pH - if yours is similar the too much Ca theory could even be reality.
Have you done any analysis on the water finally?

Not that you seem to need any help based on how your plants look, but i like to rumble with a joint in my hand anyway, sorry for that

Good weed!
And morning, if i figure the time of day proper.

I'm shutting my eyes and continuing like I was before shit happened, they'll be ok..........if I don't trip too hard on em!

 

[Richard Richardson]

Looking Sweet, Mc. Sinsimiller seems to know his stuff.

My opinion is "What he said"

Good Luck and Good weed to you and yours.

 

[Hiker]

Hey OMM, spring, hiker, and all the thumbs!, That plant has always done this and ya hiker, I do have a little leeway for experimentation. There has been an element of suspect of my water all along, and while it is neutral, it has tremendous amounts of minerals...LOL, so much I've been afraid to even check the ppms from the tap! It doesn't matter too much cuz I don't have a meter anyhow. SO, what I did this morning is I gave it a whole gallon of R/O water, it will skip the next watering of all the plants, and will be back on schedule next watering. This is the last time I will trip on this plant, it will just have to get by....LOL......but ya kushy, it's always done this and I don't expect any harm to come from this issue. Thanks for your input guys!

The only result so far from the R/O water is that the plants under he induction light seemed to like it better than the ones under the hps. A bunch of cuts under the t5 seem to like it too. I have some issues in the nursery with the mothers and I'm going to start working them into health cuz I'll be taking cuts as soon as I determine the best plants from my current grow. I'm slightly frustrated as I try to fine tune this run, I am narrowing down what the issue is that's causing the chlorotic leaves on the Yeti. I may have a magnesium deficiency which is hampering the plants ability to take up nitrogen. I hate to be trippin on this plant but I have to do something to try to push it further than I have in the past. I think that the mag may be locked out due to the high mineral content of my water............and naturally occurring salts. I hope I'm not overthinking this but I am systematically ruling out the simplest problems first, trying not to stress out my brain cell. I even took a look at George this morning, and he even hinted around that it could be a mag deficiency or lockout. So, this is what will happen, two tsp/gal Epsom salts in R/O water for two applications. I wonder if I unlock all those nutes at the same time it's gonna burn my shit!, I hate to screw up at this stage of flowering....let alone at any stage. Good weed everyone and a day in the weed patch is better than a day under the weed patch!

Earlier this month my plants were going thru something real similar, not sure if you saw any of the pics I posted but if it's anything like what was up with mine? 5ML.'s of CA & MG per gallon of RO water tuned em right up and they look better than ever. The Epsom Salts only give emthe MG right? I need to go look at a carton but I think were fresh out. Keep up the work bro, I think your almost there where you wanna be my friend. Reps for the detailed journal and pics

Hey McL. Sorry I haven't been on your thread. I can't hit all my subs everyday, so I always start at the top or bottom of the list. I think your thread managed to stay in the middle for a week or so. Sorry bro.

Those spots should be a good sign. There are only a few deficiencies that lead to spotting (K, Mg, and Ca). Using all the resources already posted here, we should be able to figure this out...

I've said before when you talked about your water, I suspect your hard water is causing the problem. My tap water is crazy hard, ie ppms of 400+, almost 500 at times. I believe most of my hardness is Ca. If you have too much Ca, it can lockout Mg. My permanent solution was to get an RO system. In the meantime, I did add Epsom salts (Yes Sl1ng, Epsom is ONLY Mg), and they started looking better. I think you said your problem plant was more sativa too, right? My sensitive strains were my more sativa strains as well. Now that I'm using RO, my deficiencies are gone. Granted I'm in hydro, but I think the lockout issue still carries over. If your tap water is high in Ca, it can lockout Mg. You're also not phing anything. High Ca can raise ph, which leads to other lockouts. Specifically, K.

For sure it's one of these 3. My suspicion is an abundance of Ca, locking out Mg, and then K. The flush may or may not help depending on what you flush with. If you're using tap, you might just be exacerbating the problem by adding more Ca.

If it was me, and again I'm hydro but have mothers in coco/soiless, I would continue using the RO, and add a little Epsom only. If you don't see a positive change in 2-3 days, it's not Mg being locked out by Ca. Then I would water with RO + high K nutes (ie bloom flavor), and NO calmag supplement. We know you have too much Ca or Mg, so you don't need anymore of that!

I'd be focused on excess Ca. Don't give up, I'm sure you can solve it.

Cool!, no I hadn't seen it!, I imagine the price is a little more reasonable with the economy. It looks light too, a good barhopper! I just went and looked at it on the net.......it's pretty small. UhOh....it's a softail too!

What's wrong with a soft tail?

Granted, I'm not a Harley guy. When I rode bikes, I was a fan of sport bikes. I always wondered why anyone would want a hard tail? My bony ass is a big fan of rear suspension. There is also a performance benefit to the suspension, ie keeping the tire touching the pavement on rough surfaces.

As I've gotten older, I'm less interested in the crotch rockets, but I'm still more interested in the sport tourers than the chrome plated cruiser type. Although I wouldn't mind a Road King. That has always been my favorite HD. I'll probably never own one though. I'm pretty sure I would have my HD taken away when I inquired about adding a muffler. Part of why I'm not into the cruisers, is most guys make them so damn loud!

 

[fish cake]

Happy Friedday to you Mc and Young Miss Loadie

 

[mcloadie]

Hey McL. Sorry I haven't been on your thread. I can't hit all my subs everyday, so I always start at the top or bottom of the list. I think your thread managed to stay in the middle for a week or so. Sorry bro.

Those spots should be a good sign. There are only a few deficiencies that lead to spotting (K, Mg, and Ca). Using all the resources already posted here, we should be able to figure this out...

I've said before when you talked about your water, I suspect your hard water is causing the problem. My tap water is crazy hard, ie ppms of 400+, almost 500 at times. I believe most of my hardness is Ca. If you have too much Ca, it can lockout Mg. My permanent solution was to get an RO system. In the meantime, I did add Epsom salts (Yes Sl1ng, Epsom is ONLY Mg), and they started looking better. I think you said your problem plant was more sativa too, right? My sensitive strains were my more sativa strains as well. Now that I'm using RO, my deficiencies are gone. Granted I'm in hydro, but I think the lockout issue still carries over. If your tap water is high in Ca, it can lockout Mg. You're also not phing anything. High Ca can raise ph, which leads to other lockouts. Specifically, K.

For sure it's one of these 3. My suspicion is an abundance of Ca, locking out Mg, and then K. The flush may or may not help depending on what you flush with. If you're using tap, you might just be exacerbating the problem by adding more Ca.

If it was me, and again I'm hydro but have mothers in coco/soiless, I would continue using the RO, and add a little Epsom only. If you don't see a positive change in 2-3 days, it's not Mg being locked out by Ca. Then I would water with RO + high K nutes (ie bloom flavor), and NO calmag supplement. We know you have too much Ca or Mg, so you don't need anymore of that!

I'd be focused on excess Ca. Don't give up, I'm sure you can solve it.



What's wrong with a soft tail?

Granted, I'm not a Harley guy. When I rode bikes, I was a fan of sport bikes. I always wondered why anyone would want a hard tail? My bony ass is a big fan of rear suspension. There is also a performance benefit to the suspension, ie keeping the tire touching the pavement on rough surfaces.

As I've gotten older, I'm less interested in the crotch rockets, but I'm still more interested in the sport tourers than the chrome plated cruiser type. Although I wouldn't mind a Road King. That has always been my favorite HD. I'll probably never own one though. I'm pretty sure I would have my HD taken away when I inquired about adding a muffler. Part of why I'm not into the cruisers, is most guys make them so damn loud!

LOL...at least that's a confirmation to my convoluded thoughts...LOL......I did ALL those things already.....I decided to go back and do what worked before. I cut way back on the calmag this run and all this started happening.......I'm back on my regular schedule and we'll see what happens. My Ph is always perfect when I check it. As for the softails...I'm old school, we have a saying that softails are for doctors and lawyers......if the bike is louder it will just give you a little edge on the quiet ones and maybe an asshole who would normally just kill you might hear your pipes and be aware that you're there. One woulda got me two days ago.....but I had the suspicion he wasn't seeing me and he missed me...hahalalala....he is lucky....I know people that would have shot him on the spot....he was very sorry that he did it and I didn't punish him. My bike has vance and hines big shots with fishtail tips....it sounds bad ass, and gave me some extra power when I'm comin outa the hole sideways and smoking! My bike isn't a softail, but has adjustable air suspension, antilock brakes, fly by wire throttle, ect., it's pretty advanced....no choke...it starts just like your car.....just turn it on and hit the starter.....I have quite a few upgrades on it, and it was a road king to begin with....I have ridden em all, except victory.......I don't care for em, if you're gonna spend 30 or 40 grand on a bike....don't spend it on a board with wheels!

 

[mcloadie]

Happy Friedday to you Mc and Young Miss Loadie

Mornin and good weed fishy!, plan for the day: make sure unloadie doesn't melt!

 

[invi]

Good Weed McLoadie!

Hope things work out!

By the way this is the second time i hear about Mg def causing spots on leaves - i only saw intervenial chlorosis so far. How does that happen? Anyone has a pic about that?
I'm bit confused with this.

 

[Hiker]

LOL...at least that's a confirmation to my convoluded thoughts...LOL......I did ALL those things already.....I decided to go back and do what worked before. I cut way back on the calmag this run and all this started happening.......I'm back on my regular schedule and we'll see what happens. My Ph is always perfect when I check it. As for the softails...I'm old school, we have a saying that softails are for doctors and lawyers......if the bike is louder it will just give you a little edge on the quiet ones and maybe an asshole who would normally just kill you might hear your pipes and be aware that you're there. One woulda got me two days ago.....but I had the suspicion he wasn't seeing me and he missed me...hahalalala....he is lucky....I know people that would have shot him on the spot....he was very sorry that he did it and I didn't punish him. My bike has vance and hines big shots with fishtail tips....it sounds bad ass, and gave me some extra power when I'm comin outa the hole sideways and smoking! My bike isn't a softail, but has adjustable air suspension, antilock brakes, fly by wire throttle, ect., it's pretty advanced....no choke...it starts just like your car.....just turn it on and hit the starter.....I have quite a few upgrades on it, and it was a road king to begin with....I have ridden em all, except victory.......I don't care for em, if you're gonna spend 30 or 40 grand on a bike....don't spend it on a board with wheels!

Cool man. That's the rational I'm always told. It makes drivers hear you when they don't see you. Sure. That makes sense, but I don't wanna hear it. I survived riding quiet bikes for many many years. And I guess have a sissy ass, cause I want suspension
Maybe you'll still let me ride with you if I bring some nice cones.


I was reading my calmag bottle last night and noticed something I missed before. They say to add the calmag to hydro media when using RO only for the first few feedings. I'll have to go read it again if you want the exact wording. That was a huge surprise to me as I always thought I needed it the whole way through. I'm going cut mine out on the next res and see what I see. I did a res change last night (hence why I was reading the bottle), but I still added it.

peace brother

 

[mcloadie]

Cool man. That's the rational I'm always told. It makes drivers hear you when they don't see you. Sure. That makes sense, but I don't wanna hear it. I survived riding quiet bikes for many many years. And I guess have a sissy ass, cause I want suspension
Maybe you'll still let me ride with you if I bring some nice cones.


I was reading my calmag bottle last night and noticed something I missed before. They say to add the calmag to hydro media when using RO only for the first few feedings. I'll have to go read it again if you want the exact wording. That was a huge surprise to me as I always thought I needed it the whole way through. I'm going cut mine out on the next res and see what I see. I did a res change last night (hence why I was reading the bottle), but I still added it.

peace brother

Bro, my bike has shocks...LOL......You can ride with me anytime, we always got bones!

 

[mcloadie]

 

[jlt1202]

b-e-a-utiful

 

[Legit Spam]

It all looks good...