Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[Dennise]

Good morning Sara...

 

[ganjazz]

Grow happy ganjazz

Hope you had a great holday

Oh and check my new journal ,

 

[Mars Hydro]

Sorry browneyes1888, it is just there are too many growers using our lights, and different growers grow differently and even one growers will get different results in different time. So I did not link you any, I believe you can find many on this forum,

i checked COfinest grows and hes done 2 grows under the 1600w? one doesnt tell me yield as he uses the reflector series also
so is the 2 cofinest grows the only completed grows with mars leds on here?
with the amount of people on this thread there must be more who can say i used a mars 5w led and got suh and such from it?

so no one can link there finished grows and record yield with these lights?
thats 2 days ive been asking?
im only looking for a bit of help to make me buy these lights?
SARA if u can link me a couple of grow diaries with yield recorded at end i will buy numerious lights from u?

Thank you SmokingYoda

You could take the time and use the search option. I typed "pineapple chunk" to get info on this strain and the search was more then helpful and a few mars 2 PC grows were in their. Good luck brown eyes

Thank you Celt

Browneyes check out this page/video by COFinest

Mars II 1600! Super Monster Scrog Pounder

he reviews both the 144 3s and the Mars II 1600. He got just over a pound under the 1600 in a 5x5 scrog

The video is on page 54 of the journal

Thank you Wahtoogee

Browneyes, if I may... Your first question almost seemed like you were "baiting" with a leading question. You made a statement something like no finished grows or grows that went badly? It was offensive in its tone, IMO.

Numerous, numerous extremely successful grows with Mars lights have been accomplished. I don't do diary's, I don't have the time. But under hydro dwc into scrog under Mars 1200 I've hit over 1 lb per plant, I can post pics of my current grow and you will see its outta control... Autos yield about 2 oz per plant I've found in soil. (Of which I have two going now in an experiment, one untrained, one topped extremely early and these are close to coming down, under a Mars 96*3 reflector.

I'll gladly post pics if you desire...

Studies have shown greater yield per watt than HID under LED. Let alone the heat issues...

 

[Dennise]

I finally received the 300w old style light from Cramazon and what a kick azz little light. I hate you are going to stop selling them... I am really quite impressed for the price and it is just perfect as a fill in light in the 4' tent........

 

[Mars Hydro]

no baiting here
im asking a simple question
can anyone link me to completed diaries on any forum anywhere on the internet with mars1200 or 1600w leds as im extremely interested in buying them and this is final piece of the jog saw i need
as i said and as u pointed out i cannot find any that are completed or ones that didnt go badly? thats not offensive surely?
i looked threw completed diaries and only ones that finished where porrly grown plants
im not looking for an arguement
im appealing for peoples help to make my mind up about buying numerious mars panels
thats the problem with the internet its impossible to gauge someones tone
thats why people sometimes take things the way they want to take them?

Evening supergrommer

A quick google search came up with this.

yes i watched that lol
12 oz off a 730 watt panel do u class that as a succesfull grow?
0.5gpw?

High Kriaze

Whether you intended to bait in the first instance or not it certainly seems as though you are now. There's no need to be rude here, it's a fun, helpful community and people have gone out of their way to help you. If you can't find anything to your satisfaction then may I suggest that you move on to the next light that interests you, rather than disparaging people that are trying to help?

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again all ive asked is to be linked to completed grows with higher wattage mars leds?(is that offensive?)
would mars hydro be pleased at u telling someone in there sponsored page telling someone whos extremely interested in buying there product to move onto the next light?

Well the thing is, Mars Hydro have no say in what I write here, the same applies to others. People join this thread for various reasons and those that enjoy the lights stick around. People went out of their way to help you and all that you could respond with was an impertinent question which mocked the poster. There is an age limit for this site for a reason, mainly to make the community a better and friendlier place for like minded adults. Maybe just think a moment before typing, so that you can think about how others will perceive your questions and replies.

Hey browneyes, don't get angry, we are all just trying to help, Kraize does't mean rude, we just hope everyone can act in a respectful way to each other.

im offended by your rudeness:/
mars hydro have no say in wot u write
u have no say in wot i write
im looking to spend alot of my hard earned money on led panels
i apologise deeply that im looking for a bit of evidence they work as well as some say
AGAIN all im asking is if these panels work as good as equivilent wattage hps can i get linked to the grows please?

 

[Mars Hydro]

Definitely

Browneyes

Did you watch COFinest's video I posted above? almost 500g from a Mars II 1600. That's pretty respectable dry weight considering only a 3 month veg time. No doubt he would have had a gram/watt or more had he allowed them to veg longer.

Lights are just one factor in final weight. Veg time and pot size plays a big role as well.

Don't get angry Kriaze, and thank you for the help. I guess brown is also not mean to offend anyone.

There's a certain way of asking for things that will encourage people to help you. There's also a wrong way of going about things too, I'm merely pointing out that this is one of those times. Rather than interfere with a good, solid and mainly fun thread by having a spat here you can feel free to pm me if you have anything more to say. Otherwise please think about what sort of reaction your comments will have. Take some medicine, post when you feel better. All the best

ok not being offensive or anything here mate but yes i did watch it
i hit 1gpw on autos in 80 days total right now with a 600w light
so his 500 gramms from a 700watt panel in 3 month veg and same flower isnt to me mate
last grow i grew dutch passion think different in coco under 4x600w hps
i yielded 81 oz bone dry in 77 days

im not having a spat wiht u i wont be pming u either
u have simply taken my posts wrong
im asking for completed grows using 1200-1600w mars leds
u seem to have jumped in dispite only hvaing ure first grow a few months ago? take some medicine complete a grow post when u feel better all the best

 

[Mars Hydro]

You can also add some Carbon filter, it seems will increase the temperature Celt.

OK so 2.3kg under 2400 watts is just under 1g/w BUT, how much did ventilation/cooling etc cost you under the HPS. Something you may want to factor in considering the heat produced by HPS, whereas the Mars Hydro lights require no heating issues. My grow room is below grade so I actually have to supply extra heat at times to keep my area above 70 degrees

Hope this misunderstanding will clear out soon,

I was actually the first to reply to your question if you would care to check back through the thread, I was trying to be helpful no matter how many grows I have done. Thanks for pointing that out though, I feel better now and will have much more confidence in posting answers in the future I don't feel disparaged at all. Good luck and I hope that you find an expert with many grows under their belt to help you out, I am not worthy

100% thecelt
the reasoning for me wanting to go led is the cooling factor
i live in a flat and the full speed fan needed to run threw my 4x600w air cooled hoods is too loud:/
i can dim my extraction and intake to half speed but the air cooled fan must run full speed all times to keep cool:/
this is why im asking can these lights compare too a 600w hps and if so can i be linked to the diaries
like can the mars 1200 yield 500-600 grams bone dry? can the 1600w yield 600-700 gramms ?

lmfao self pity is a bad trait to have lol remember take some medicene and come back when u feel better

Oh don't worry about me and self pity, we have a mutual agreement. It doesn't bother me and I don't bother with it It's good to see that you could take the comment in the nature it was intended

Good

it sure was

LOL OK I see your point and I am far from an expert on grows OR lights.

But you ask a HARD question to give a fair answer on because there are SO many factors other than just lights that can affect yield.

Strain, space, environment, grow media, grow style, etc that all affect yield.

From all the research I did before buying my Mars II 900, I got the impression that the LEDs were comparable to HPS/MH lights for penetration but actually produced better quality than the HPS/MH because of better spectrum.

To get your best answer to your question, I would suggest asking COFinest about his many grows. In one of his videos I believe he did a side by side comparision of the Mars lights vs HPS. If so, he is likely to give you more of the answer you want.

Cheers Mate

 

[Mars Hydro]

Usually the 1600w can replace around 800~1000w hps, the result will almost be same, but you will get denser and better quality buds than that is under HPS

thats an idea mate ill give him a bell and see wot he can suggest.the reason im doing this is its a shed load of money to spend on a grow room.like $2500 but if i could even get close to hps yields i would be happy
think im simply scared as my gorw room is dialed in and produces well right now
sadly the noise from the full speed fans cant go on much more as nieghbours are about to go mad lmfao

I hear ya Mate.

I went with the 900 as it was slightly larger than required for my 3'6" by 3'6" space and wanted to try them out. If I can yield 400+ grams in there under the LED I will be quite happy. The light draws 480w and I have about 200watts of fans for circulation and fresh air intake. I know that is only slightly better than .5g/w but for my first grow, I will be pleased.

But I won't know until mid to late august as these girls are just starting their 2nd week of flower.

i dont tend to inculde my fans in with the gpw im looking for only lights
if u can get 400gramms from a 480w led panel on ure first grow would be great
i remember my first grow.600w light and got about 6 ounce lol
still loved smoking threw it tho

 

[Mars Hydro]

Thank you Kriaze for the sharing, really good information I bet many growers is intersted, lol

Talking of penetration here is a test I did for my journal, maybe it will give you some idea:

OK so yesterday I managed to get a few pictures of the Lux meter thanks to the help of my lovely assistant (her indoors ). I'm still uncertain as to whether the results prove anything conclusively but maybe when I have them up in order here I'll see a little more clearly. One thing I noticed is that one of the reflectors seems to be brighter than the other, but that could be due to the height they're hanging (less foliage in the way higher up). Anyway enough rambling and here are some pics

18" comparison:

1600w @ 18"

Reflectors @ 18"

24" comparison

1600w @24"

reflectors @24"
https://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/500/reflectors24farleft.jpg
https://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/500/reflectors24farleft2.jpg

30" comparison

1600w @30"

reflectors @30"

OK so looking at that I see that at 24" and above the 1600w is in front on LUX readings by a fair old way, but and here's the funny thing, at 30" below the reflectors actually have the higher LUX reading. So from what I'm seeing it looks like for lanky plants the reflector series may be better for penetration below, but how much growth will 4360-4410 lux actually give? Whereas the 30200-30600 lux on the 1600w vs the 11800-14190 lux at 18" would probably mean for scrog the 1600w will blow the reflectors away. If anyone has any thoughts feel free to jump in. All the best

@kriaze thansk for that.ive noticed lumen counts are low on these panels but read elswhere that its because some of light from these dont even show on lumen/lux meters ie the 440nm and the 660nm

 

[Mars Hydro]

Thank you lazo61, it is our pleasure to help you. By the way, your cat is sooo cute, curiosity, curiosity, lol

Hello 420 community,
Hello Ruby and sara.

Iwant just say i am so happy that my 144x3 is arrieved and can just tell you you are realy fast
I order it on 17.06 pay on 18.06 and arrieved today 20.06 thats realy FAST just in 3 days WHOOW
I want to say BIG @Ruby she help me verry good...

Here are some pics.. i dont how i nead to upload the pics on this site sry i tryed..

My old lamp

My new 144x3

Its the first time i pay from mars hydro i cant garant that i wil buy again i am happy and my ladys wil bea happy to..

in tent my ladys are Big Bud and Top44 and g13 haze (barneys farm)

 

[Mars Hydro]

Looking good there supergroomer

Here are some pics of my Sleestack Skunk. I had her 12/12 to see sex then I put her back to reveg about 10 days ago. About 5 days ago I decided to break her arms. Now she is spreading out. In front of her are my Super Silver Haze clones, my Dream Machine and my Incredible Bulk.

 

[Mars Hydro]

High Dennise

High Browneyes and I'm not used to the British dryness either so take it easy on me and I am only trying to help.... I grow under both all the reflector light the 48x3w, 96x3w and 144x5w and I also grow under 2 Mars II 400's vs using just one Mars II 800 because you can move them around for better coverage IMO this way but anyhow... You are more than welcome to check my journal as it is over 500 pages long and has from beginning to finish with all final weights of about 4 grows... Again I know it is not exactly what you are asking for but you will see until recently I didn't even have an exhaust fan at all and never had an issue.... I have never grown under anything but LED but I know there is not near the heat issue nor do you have to replace expensive bulbs or run any type of ballast.... I have gotten over a gram per actual watt on several plants and on some not... I got 3.2 ounces off a auto Pineapple Express under a 48x3w reflector but some have been far less.... as stated above it has so many other factors... and how you grow is the largest one.... I love my lights and have gotten over 20 of them from Sara over the last 2 years and I have not had a single problem with one of them and the customer service is beyond reproach.... I hope that helps you in some way and if you do decide to go with M-H I think you will be pleased.....

best wishes from me too

thank u very much dennise for the responce
ill go and have a good read of ure journal and jump back here once im done thanks again
500 pages jeez wish me luck lol

 

[Mars Hydro]

Wow scrubby, your plants seems really enjoy themself. lol

Under a Mars ll 900W. Beautiful arent they?

 

[Mars Hydro]

Thank you Blacksmith, much appreciated your help, your right the culture difference is really a big factor that will stop ppl from understand each other correctly, need time to learn the best way to deal with it, lol

Hi Browneyes, I have learned an enormous amount from the contributors of this thread and am an owner of a single 700 watt panel. My actual experience with growing is quite limited, but having read a great many threads on 420 I have noticed that the GPW discussion concerning the HPS v LED people is often very confused by the fact that although a LED panel is rated at "X" watts, the arithmatic associated with the whole GPW thing should be calculated using actual watts, which are generally about half the rated watts of the given panel, for example a 700 watt panel being run on 240v would output about 380 watts real power (apparently this has something to do with how hard the individual LED's are driven). Having done the GPW maths this way, the yeild numbers are more fairly represented.
I hope that my comments are not missunderstood as interference in any way, I just don't think that LED's are generally represented well in regard to their yeilds, my experience has been very positive since I started learning about growing at all, let alone indoors and although my GPW numbers would be cosidered pitiful by some, they are increasing with every grow as i learn about the plant and it's relationship to my ever improving grow environment.
Hope this hepls dude, also, Mars Hydro, once you account for time, language and culture differneces seem to be one of the few companies I have found that understand they are what they are because of the customer base, and thus far, I have found their product and service to be far from a bottom shelf effort.

ooh yeah i wouldnt base gpw numbers off the 1200w or 1600w as u say i would base the 1200w on 520w and the 1600w on 720w
the problem i have is my rooms is running smooth right now but its too noisey with cooling fans running full speed and im nervious about not seeing any larger scale grows running mars 5w leds
wot ill do is get a pic of my grow room up in a bit and see if anyone runs like i do with leds

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hello uptosumpn, all our chips are using the standard ones, it might be some color mixture, and you checked the lights in different color.
By the way, can you tell me how you use the light? around 18~24inches? Can you share more information?

ok, so is it just me or does anyone's new 5w leds look dim sorta??..(not the reflector series!)..i just put up one of my newly purchased 60x5 led's and it looks bluish than the normal pinkish/redish glow....also when i look at led's themselves, some of the led's appear to have a very light green color from 6-10 led's...?????! This panel does not put off that same pinkish glow, more looks like daylight cfl's...Is this a defect or what! plants seem to not have responded to light as of yet..been under the light for 2 days since switching from 150hps. what do you think sara? if th

 

[Mars Hydro]

Hope you get the light soon.

Grate day, order on the way. If it lowers the temp one degree C. I am happy. I ordered the yo-yo. I just like to say yo - yo.

yo-yo

high ganjazz

high, got the yoyo's too

Thank you guys for all sharing these useful informations here,

Tested temperature grow room 2 days ago with hps 400w HPS and the reflector 300w together, temp was 36.2° C approx (hot weather outside)

When mars2 700w arrived, replaced the HPS, and temp stays now 6-7 degrees lower

Added 2nd fan under led to see if temp can hold 28-30°C- day3 flowering

lovely and healthy girls,

 

[Dennise]

High Kraise I have that same exact LUX meter... I don't know how accurate the real numbers are but I know it works well for measuring the difference in the lights you have and are comparing......

 

[Mars Hydro]

Yes arellanobrian, I came back to work today and see these, and they are really making my day, lol

some impressive pics starting to show up on this thread

I am sorry to hear this arellanobrian, hope the best for the next run, Anyway, we grow and learn, not everyone can grow successfully every time

So the plants in the vid are yellowing badly because of my error of underfeeding my plants in soil but i still wanted to post so people can see what the potential of the lights are. im still learning so for a new grower i think the lights are doing great

 

[Mars Hydro]

I am here ganjazz PM replied

Where is SmokeSara ,

Send pm

Woops Smoking Yoda, I checked there is no PM from you, can you PM me again with your order number? Or you can post here too Email me if you want to and I will check your order status

I sent her a PM too, couple days ago now. I ordered on the 12th and I still don't have a tracking number. I was excited for this product at first but between the few negative I've read to the hasn't been shipped yet, I'm have second thoughts for now. I feel like I've floated 530$ lol.

Yes, we are just came back from the dragen boat holiday, To memorrize a great poet

maybe couple days holiday,

 

[Mars Hydro]

haha thanks Celt You must live pretty close to our warehouse

Don't worry Yoda

Some people get there lights before they do the tracking number. Depends on where they live. I live in Canada and had my light before I even thought about a tracking number.

That is strange, do you order from someone and have you emailed the one who is responsible for your order? If not, I believe they did not even noticed your order, cause you know everyday there are just too many payment comes in our account,

Do you recall how long you received the product after placing order celt? I placed mine on the 12 and am still waiting. I also reside in Canada, southern Ontario.

Hi Yoda

I ordered mine on a Friday as well...Saturday for the Mars Hydro crew, they are in China. I was about 6 or 7 business days getting my light but I ordered right from the Mars Hydro site. Did you order from their site or EBAY?