GardenFaerie
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I'm a bra! Wait, don't men call me bras now? I am so confused. I'm a broad. I should start the:
"Broads for Cannabis Growing" club.
"Broads for Cannabis Growing" club.
Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion
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I am sorry to all members about the comment i made. I didn't know the phrase "top shelf" can cause this much fuss. I have never grown top quality (top shelf) buds myself so i don't have any to show. I made a very big investment on a 48x3 reflector led and just want to ask couple question and comment. SORRY ALL!!
GardenFaerie
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It didn't look like a question and I mistook what someone else said and pounced on him for it unreasonably.
That said, this is an International website and many languages have a rather wide variety of slang and terms in the vernacular, as I said. I could say something like..."hands down, it is junk." If a foreigner read that, they'd probably not have any clue what hands down means because it really doesn't MEAN anything! It's an exclamation in a sentence. English is very difficult, even between English speaking countries! Sometimes my Scot friend talks, nothing registers. I mean NOTHING. Not even a noun. Nothing. We do laugh about it often and just write it down. Easier.
So if someone never heard the term is it easy to mistake it for maybe a slur, or not a slur but a jab or nothing! It means nothing in its use to people who are not native English speakers in the US. The UK may get that and others...Aussie, NZ...the fully developed nations English speaking.
Ask your questions. I am here to learn, myself. I am using CFLs when I grow inside. I want to go up to LED. What to do, which to buy, how much to spend...Crawdaddy makes interesting points about pricing and why are some very expensive vs. not, for the same China made LED. So, a lot to learn around here. I'm sorry if I cause you trouble. Start new.
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Mars Hydro
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Hi, Kubalibre. thank u so much. i will arrange your order ASAP.
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Mars Hydro
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Hi, Kubalibre. thank u so much. i will arrange your order ASAP.
wildjim
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Sorry Mocha9118. I had a part in this and I regret that. I stuck my nose in only because I like these lights and I thought what you said was sort of funny because of where you wrote it, the manufacturers thread. Almost everyone here is buying or has bought a TOP LED light. These are very productive and I have never heard anything negative. So as I looked at Corso's Bud pictures I had to say "something" about what you said. Sorry it brought a storm in here.
I will say welcome to 420 Magazine. I have a 48x3 and it is a good light. $$ well spent.
WJ
GoogleGenie
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I have both a Mars II 900 and a Mars II 1200. The 900 is plenty for a 1.2mx1.2mx2m growing space.
This is what I produced with Top LED
...And that's from a single plant! I'm not boasting, merely stating a fact
This is what I produced with Top LED
...And that's from a single plant! I'm not boasting, merely stating a fact
Growlow
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Is that fresh cut or dried and cured? and what strain? I am considering 4x 1200w for my 8x8ft room. What would you suggest??
Growlow
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I had sent Smokesara a PM but I was still waiting on a quote.
GoogleGenie
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That's dried and cured (2weeks). That particular strain is Northern Light Blue from Deliscious Seeds.
You cant go wrong with 4 x 1200w, those will definitely give you an abundance of light
however if budget is a factor, 4 x 900w will be plenty for that area IMHO. You may want to check if it is advised to daisy chain so many high powered light together, I know a lot of people daisy chain the 400 and 700's together, but i remember reading somewhere that when daisy chaining the lights together it should not exceed 1200w (or something like that anyway)
Growlow
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I thought so. Very nice bro! 
I've got a 200 amp service on my house with a 60amp breaker designated and dedicated specifically to my two rooms. 40 of those amps goes to my big 8x8 room. 20 to the room I've currently got 2000watts of HID running in. I've got a spare 35 amps out of that 200 I'm not even utilizing. I'm assuming "daisy chain" refers to them running off of one plug or one extension chord? Maybe I've missed it entirely if so don't be afraid to let me know
I would like an accurate idea of the difference between HID and the TOPLeds in temp within a sealed and controlled environment. Thanks again for your insight so far. Much appreciated bloke!
I've got a 200 amp service on my house with a 60amp breaker designated and dedicated specifically to my two rooms. 40 of those amps goes to my big 8x8 room. 20 to the room I've currently got 2000watts of HID running in. I've got a spare 35 amps out of that 200 I'm not even utilizing. I'm assuming "daisy chain" refers to them running off of one plug or one extension chord? Maybe I've missed it entirely if so don't be afraid to let me know
I would like an accurate idea of the difference between HID and the TOPLeds in temp within a sealed and controlled environment. Thanks again for your insight so far. Much appreciated bloke!
GoogleGenie
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I thought so. Very nice bro!
I've got a 200 amp service on my house with a 60amp breaker designated and dedicated specifically to my two rooms. 40 of those amps goes to my big 8x8 room. 20 to the room I've currently got 2000watts of HID running in. I've got a spare 35 amps out of that 200 I'm not even utilizing. I'm assuming "daisy chain" refers to them running off of one plug or one extension chord? Maybe I've missed it entirely if so don't be afraid to let me know
I would like an accurate idea of the difference between HID and the TOPLeds in temp within a sealed and controlled environment. Thanks again for your insight so far. Much appreciated bloke!
Sounds you're well prepared
Fair play!It probably isnt even the correct term for it haha, but when i say daisy chain i mean connect one light to the mains, and then powering one light from another, and then another from another etc. This is quite convenient as it saves you having to trapse cables everywhere, but for the larger lights, such as the ones you have in mind it's probably safer to power them all from mains(extension cord) directly.
You will see a huge different as far as temperature is concerned. I have never grown with HID, but a friend of mine used to (now he uses LED also), and the temperature difference is absurd. To give you an example, his grow room was hitting around 28-30degrees celcius with HID in his 1.2x1.2 which was fully ventilated with a 5" ruck fan. Using LED he is sitting pretty at 22-24degrees now.
Compared to 3w LED's the 5W LED's do generate slightly more heat, but nothing compared to HID!
I have used both 3w and 5w LED lights too, and personally i prefer the Mars II's that use 5w diodes. The plants love them and grow more aggressively toward the light.
Best of luck, you won't regret it fella!
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thanks for your sharing Wildjim, your plant looks very healthy.
Here is the latest update on my girl. One month old from seed. She's a Northern Light X Big Bud Auto. She has 10 bud sites so far. I'm using the GH Simple Drain to Waste formula. So many bottles but whatever makes my medicine as best as I can make it is good. She was under a 48x3 reflector from day 4 until about third week. Now she is under my Mars II 700 watt. These lights are great. Led Grow Lights for indoor plants-Top Led Thanks Sara!
WJ
Gfcollective
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its safe to say most medical marijuana facility's dont grow their own but some do. so "some storefronts" would be more accurate. Colorado for instance, the "stores" medical facility's have to grow 50% of their own inventory? or something along that line maybe a colorado med patient can clarify it more for us.
I&i
What I am getting at is, there is what we as growers get rid of and our cut. Our cut is a notch above anything a local or storefront would see. Because we as growers honestly mostly keep the "top shelf" buds for ourselves. Growers cut always trumps anything in a jar somewhere for sale.
GardenFaerie
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Curso, I don't know about that. Every dispensary I've seen in every documentary I've watched, including the second part of Sangye Gupta's report which was on a few nights ago on CNN...has said that the stuff in the jars has to have the THC CBD content. It is all tested before it is sold for canabadiols, THC as well as fungi, mold spores, insects or insect litter. None of that makes it into the jars on the shelves.
I have no doubt that, if a grower is also a smoker, they definitely keep their best buds, but really how much does that amount to when you are growing 1,000 plants? Not much. It has no impact on the level of quality you buy in the dispensaries.
I have no doubt that, if a grower is also a smoker, they definitely keep their best buds, but really how much does that amount to when you are growing 1,000 plants? Not much. It has no impact on the level of quality you buy in the dispensaries.
Gfcollective
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you are both right i would say. i myself do not keep the top shelf nugs for myself, i make oils and edibles for myself out of the c nugs and trim. i can see how growers could baby their first few grow prime nugs they grew themselves but it wears off and eventually u would rather have someone praise you for how amazing your flower is instead of you enjoying it by yourself. so you are correct.
Dispensary's usually get their product tested. with that said many do not, and many use "other test results" for the strain they grew with the same name that hasnt been tested. i work in the industry obviously, im defending it. but i do know that many do not care about their test results. our collective is selective on what we get tested as it is expensive and we are a small one volunteer (me) shop. so the CBD strains i have tested as those are the only strains patients care to see the results about, ive never had a patient wonder what the thc is for a medicinal reason.
always be on your toes to whatever you read and hear. all medicinal is not the same, with that said its not right to bash any of them unless you know otherwise.
stay cool 420mag
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Dispensary's usually get their product tested. with that said many do not, and many use "other test results" for the strain they grew with the same name that hasnt been tested. i work in the industry obviously, im defending it. but i do know that many do not care about their test results. our collective is selective on what we get tested as it is expensive and we are a small one volunteer (me) shop. so the CBD strains i have tested as those are the only strains patients care to see the results about, ive never had a patient wonder what the thc is for a medicinal reason.
always be on your toes to whatever you read and hear. all medicinal is not the same, with that said its not right to bash any of them unless you know otherwise.
stay cool 420mag
I&i
GardenFaerie
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Absolutely, Gf. I am happy to hear you work in the industry. I find that most people I'm seeing showcased in these docs are lovely, caring individuals.
I get a little leery of people who are dabbing ten times day as I do see that as being abusive and not using the drug in a prescribed way. Or are they? The guy I saw dabbing so often has arthritis in his knee. I do too. Bone on bone, hear it scraping and gives Mark the chills, but I do not dab 10 times a day, nor do I even smoke more than one or two times a day. Not saying nobody should smoke more, but there are certain behaviors I am not fond of, and overusing anything is one of them. And arthritis is not the only physical pain I have. I have intense, never ending, constant throbbing, stabbing pain in my muscles all the time. I can barely walk or turn my head.
Eh, I should mind my business. It just broke my heart to see a young guy dabbing so much. That is very intense strong stuff. I doubt I'd ever try that. Ever.
I get a little leery of people who are dabbing ten times day as I do see that as being abusive and not using the drug in a prescribed way. Or are they? The guy I saw dabbing so often has arthritis in his knee. I do too. Bone on bone, hear it scraping and gives Mark the chills, but I do not dab 10 times a day, nor do I even smoke more than one or two times a day. Not saying nobody should smoke more, but there are certain behaviors I am not fond of, and overusing anything is one of them. And arthritis is not the only physical pain I have. I have intense, never ending, constant throbbing, stabbing pain in my muscles all the time. I can barely walk or turn my head.
Eh, I should mind my business. It just broke my heart to see a young guy dabbing so much. That is very intense strong stuff. I doubt I'd ever try that. Ever.
You can keep watching the documentaries and I will continue living it. He who grows 1000 plants is sure to go to prison. At least where I am from. There are things called limits. Go that far over and you might as well plan on being raided....
Growlow
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I can tell you for a fact in Seattle the majority of dispensaries and growers only test on the potency on THC or CBD..... that's if they are done. Go onto analytical 360 and look at how many of these growers or dispensaries that chose to avoid the extra cost to test for mold or insects and their little treats they leave behind etc. It's rare. Very rare. I worked over a year for the biggest Dispensary in Seattle with over 5 locations and was responsible for overseeing stock and purchasing as well as human resources. 98% of the growers bringing flower in rarely even flushed their plants. I've also worked for a few other Dispensaries in this area and the practice is the same.
It's just better to grow your own. Most people growing 100+ plants in Washington state don't care what chems they use to kill insects or do they care how well flushed the plant is. That's just my own first hand experience. Whether these growers were bringing in their best or worse I'll never know. I do know after handling product for the company I worked with looked great on the surface but when closer inspected it was obvious there was no love in the grow or at least no care. The companies own huge grow, which had even less love and care put into it than the growers who brought product in had the largest spidermite infestation I had ever seen.