Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

:welcome:Hi gudyul,i wish i can smoke,haha:volcano-smiley:I always want try it...:Namaste:
I read some articles from internet that they said it's better not spray anything,so i want to make sure :if i really need to spray something to my plants,which kind of things i should avoid?
:circle-of-love:How are you these days? Did you go on your summer vacation?:high-five:

No vacation here, gots to make hay whislt the sun shines! I would avoid anything with high price like snake oil for sure.
 
A lightmover is useful in the grow tent. :high-five:
well you could be cheap like me and run a lightmover with either one.

I guess I cant say cheap, I just want to reserve the power for a second tent soon. lol

hmmm edit here........might say grab the 1600 actually. I run the 1200 in my 4x8, coverage is ok, but somedays I wish the width was covered a bit better. it is covered though.
 
Some folks {SNIP}

I agree that there are times when spraying (foliar feeding, et cetera) are warranted. As I was getting at, the advice against spraying/feeding during flowering is not a hard rule for all times/situations/growers. Merely... Well, you can spend two minutes explaining to someone how to grow cannabis, or you can spend (at least) a day. If giving the "quick basic cannabis course," lol, I would say, "Try not to spray your buds." Experts (and those who wish to one day be experts) would, I assume, try to learn more than the barest essentials.

I especially agree with what you mentioned about foliar feeding certain nutrients. Some things... I have noticed that some things are more readily absorbed at different pH than the generally accepted ~5.8 for hydroponics / ~6.5 for soil. It might be simpler and easier to administer such things as a foliar feed.

I'm not sure that I would want to place General Hydroponics' Rare Earth silicone product in a DWC reservoir ever again, lol. It caused a rather extreme (and rather fatal :rolleyes3 ) pH shift. Still, I would like to be able to give it to my plants, because I feel that it does have benefits. I will probably try giving that as a foliar feed at some point in the future.

smokin fish poo is cancerous.

And, regardless, it probably is not at all fun ;) .

Cannabis...
gets rained on in bud in Hawaii even as it is being dried in humid conditions and turns out to be a mellow smoke

Yes. But I presume that those strains are ones that have been naturalized/acclimatized over generations to thrive under such conditions? I could probably spend an hour browsing at one of our seedbank sponsors' websites and come up with at least a few plants that would not do well at all in your climate.

In many parts of the world, Botrytis Cinerea (et cetera) spores seem to be pretty much everywhere. In a lot of northern latitudes, it can be tough to grow many strains outdoors. And even indoors. I am kind of in a "flip a coin" area - mold can destroy a bud, destroy a crop, or not even be present (or at least not be observable). This does not seem to be much affected by the cleanliness of the grow room - total sterilization only means that there are no viable spores to begin with. I have no airlock with a decontamination station inside, along with Tyvek suits to put on, lol. I grumble about spider mites, calling them "The Borg" and mentioning that I hate them. This is because, if my grow area becomes infested, it is a real battle. But it is a battle that can be won. With mold, it seems like one cannot truly completely kill it once it gets established - only fight to minimize it, do damage control, keep applying treatments and removing affected portions of the plants (and then plants), whilst hoping that there is still something to harvest. As I will be giving to people for medicinal use (and as my lungs are kind of shot), I would probably just tearfully destroy every plant, dismantle the grow, wash everything down with a strong Clorox bleach solution, and try again.

that takes you there.

Nice! Around here, we've been saying "gets you there" ever since 1976 when Rush released their 2112 album. :thumb:
What Are You Listening To?
 
:cheertwo:Hi TorturedSoul,Yeah,i should mention that.
So your prefer indica strain or sativa? I personally like indica.:high-five:
I think when plant is flowering,spray nothing or just plain water will be safe. For friut,i always think you can spray anything on it,but should not do that one month before harvest.:Namaste:
If my morther tell me i should not cross the road,for sure i will.haha:volcano-smiley:
You may wish to include the information that the above is just a generalization. That nutrient requirements - and tolerances - vary by strain. Some strains evolved, or were bred, to do well when grown in soils that are not very nutritive. Those strains can burn at higher nutrient levels. Other strains are the plant equivalents to gluttons, lol.





Some strains are not very resistant to mold. This seems mainly to be certain indicas that have a very dense bud structure, but it is not necessarily limited to them (and some indicas that produce dense buds, conversely, appear to be somewhat mold-resistant). The breeders of some strains advise not to grow them outdoors in areas where rains are expected to be heavy late in the flowering period, for this reason.

The above might be part of the reason for what you have read. Another reason might be that some substances, when sprayed onto the buds, might... linger. For example, certain insecticides are generally considered to be harmless to people, but others are not. Of those in the latter category, some will decompose(?) after a period of time; this time might be as short as 24 hours, especially in the presence of strong light - but the length could potentially be longer. Then, too, some people like to foliar feed certain nutrients (et cetera), and a person might not wish to see such things still on the buds at harvest time, lol. It is important to remember that not everyone smokes their cannabis (many medicinal users suffer from lung aliments, and some people just do not like to smoke it). The buds might be made into food items or otherwise consumed.

It is not that "one should never, ever, spray anything on one's cannabis flowers (buds)," I think - it is more like a general rule. Something like... Well, we say here "better safe than sorry," lol. If you say that it is unwise to spray things on cannabis flowers, then you do not have to worry so much that someone will spray something that should not be sprayed. If that makes any sense? Think of it like this: A mother tells her young child not to cross the road. She does not do this because the act of crossing the road, in and of itself, is always inherently unsafe - she does so because there are certain circumstances in which it is not safe. Rather than to try to explain (and think of) every single different situation and discuss the relative safety (or lack thereof) in crossing the road under those conditions... the mother says, "Do not cross the road." Better safe than sorry ;) .

Neem-based insecticides are said to be safe to spray on our plants (even fruit and vegetable plants) up to the day of harvest. That means that we would not be poisoned if we consume the fruits of those plants. Still... It might not taste particularly good, lol.
 
:thanks:I learned a lot,thank you gudyul.:circle-of-love:
Some folks that follow doc bud do a 'catatonic' or cat drench' (fish emulsion, molasses, phosphoric acid) in first bud after stretch to jump start reproduction cycle. Foliage spray is used for plants that have deficiencies ( even in bud) for a quick fix. Epsom salt for mag def. for example. Dense buds need to be low humidity, <50%, if you are growing a strain susceptible to mold. Any kind of biological brews such as aerobic compost organic tea or anaerobic fermented organic ferts may be used as spray to help plant health and pest control but the residue on leaf n bud needs to be washed off at harvest time cuz smokin fish poo is cancerous. It may be preferable to foliar feed certian nutrients through the leaves so as not to disturb the soil balance. Foliar feeding sends sugars to the roots to feed the dirt microbs which break down the goodies or additives in the soil for the plant. Extra slow release additives of phosphates and calcium in the soil help the end stages of bud cycle when these nutrients are in demand. Foliar feeding may help the plant to use these additives. Hydro is different story as sugars may promote bad bacteria in hydro root system. sugars may not be needed in hydro as hydro nutrients are easily absorbed by plants. Foliage spray in hydro should be limited to occasional plain ph adjusted water in the bud cycle unless trying to correct mag def. All this I have gleaned off of 420mag forums. Try to simulate natural botany. Weed gets rained on in bud in Hawaii even as it is being dried in humid conditions and turns out to be a mellow smoke that takes you there.
 
So it depends on you want roll it up or just put it aside then.:cool:
Translates is no problem,i can understand. It's double sliders zipper,and we prevent the light leakage from inside of the zipper,it may not be a big problem? :Namaste:
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I really saw nothing wrong with a D-shaped door. But I do not see anything wrong with this U-shaped one, either. A door is, after all, a door.

I am curious about the zipper. Is it one zipper? Or two zippers that meet somewhere (the point at which they meet being variable, if that translates properly - like some laptop/etc. bags have)? I would like to see ONE zipper - and this is why: With one zipper, that zipper always ends up at either one end of the opening or the other. And the engineer decides which end that will be. Having decided this, he/she is then able to add in an additional thing to block the light, a stationary opaque thing. Again I hope that translates properly (for that matter, I hope that my fellow English-speakers have a clue as to what I mean, ha ha).
 
In summer it's always too hot to go anywhere.If i have summer holiday,i think i will just go back my hometown,it's cool there in summer,at least i can stay in the river near my home from morning to night.:surf:And do not need snake oil,haha.:cheertwo:
No vacation here, gots to make hay whislt the sun shines! I would avoid anything with high price like snake oil for sure.
 
:bravo:I should better consult more growers like you guys than goole all the time.:high-five:
I agree that there are times when spraying (foliar feeding, et cetera) are warranted. As I was getting at, the advice against spraying/feeding during flowering is not a hard rule for all times/situations/growers. Merely... Well, you can spend two minutes explaining to someone how to grow cannabis, or you can spend (at least) a day. If giving the "quick basic cannabis course," lol, I would say, "Try not to spray your buds." Experts (and those who wish to one day be experts) would, I assume, try to learn more than the barest essentials.

I especially agree with what you mentioned about foliar feeding certain nutrients. Some things... I have noticed that some things are more readily absorbed at different pH than the generally accepted ~5.8 for hydroponics / ~6.5 for soil. It might be simpler and easier to administer such things as a foliar feed.

I'm not sure that I would want to place General Hydroponics' Rare Earth silicone product in a DWC reservoir ever again, lol. It caused a rather extreme (and rather fatal :rolleyes3 ) pH shift. Still, I would like to be able to give it to my plants, because I feel that it does have benefits. I will probably try giving that as a foliar feed at some point in the future.



And, regardless, it probably is not at all fun ;) .

Cannabis...


Yes. But I presume that those strains are ones that have been naturalized/acclimatized over generations to thrive under such conditions? I could probably spend an hour browsing at one of our seedbank sponsors' websites and come up with at least a few plants that would not do well at all in your climate.

In many parts of the world, Botrytis Cinerea (et cetera) spores seem to be pretty much everywhere. In a lot of northern latitudes, it can be tough to grow many strains outdoors. And even indoors. I am kind of in a "flip a coin" area - mold can destroy a bud, destroy a crop, or not even be present (or at least not be observable). This does not seem to be much affected by the cleanliness of the grow room - total sterilization only means that there are no viable spores to begin with. I have no airlock with a decontamination station inside, along with Tyvek suits to put on, lol. I grumble about spider mites, calling them "The Borg" and mentioning that I hate them. This is because, if my grow area becomes infested, it is a real battle. But it is a battle that can be won. With mold, it seems like one cannot truly completely kill it once it gets established - only fight to minimize it, do damage control, keep applying treatments and removing affected portions of the plants (and then plants), whilst hoping that there is still something to harvest. As I will be giving to people for medicinal use (and as my lungs are kind of shot), I would probably just tearfully destroy every plant, dismantle the grow, wash everything down with a strong Clorox bleach solution, and try again.



Nice! Around here, we've been saying "gets you there" ever since 1976 when Rush released their 2112 album. :thumb:
What Are You Listening To?
 
Personally I don't spray during the last few weeks in flower just because the dense tight buds hold moisture longer but during pre-flower or veg where the buds are not yet formed sure why not but only right before lights out and I raise my light up as high as it can go til the leaves and in between where the leaves touch is completely dry. If you're gonna spray just make sure it's with something that is biodegradable and if say there is no other option in flower (mites,aphids,Pests in general) a bud wash is 100% needed. Don't want that oily residue in your lungs or anyone else.
 
:clap::party:New goods arrived at our Germany&UK warehouse.We have enough stock at each internation warehouses,everyone can place your order now.:welcome:
Reflector96,Reflector144,Reflector192,Mars II 900,Mars II 1600 are prepared to send out to our customer.:cheertwo:
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:goodjob:I think it's the same way for vegetable:less spray,safer dinner.:high-five:You don't spray during the last few weeks in flower,it will be good for the harvest,i think.:Namaste:
Personally I don't spray during the last few weeks in flower just because the dense tight buds hold moisture longer but during pre-flower or veg where the buds are not yet formed sure why not but only right before lights out and I raise my light up as high as it can go til the leaves and in between where the leaves touch is completely dry. If you're gonna spray just make sure it's with something that is biodegradable and if say there is no other option in flower (mites,aphids,Pests in general) a bud wash is 100% needed. Don't want that oily residue in your lungs or anyone else.
 
:volcano-smiley:i got it,i will not say it to other one.:shhh:It's secret.:high-five:
Really I'm just overly cautious about the one we dare not speak its name unless in a whisper

:shhh:Powdery Mildew:shhh:
 
So your prefer indica strain or sativa?

Sativas, of course. Often harder to grow, always longer to flower, usually less yield. But...

Sore and scarred, battered and limping... Pain, she is like an old friend - and a constant companion. Horse, my body flags sometimes, it is true. But that body is... just a thing. My mind, that is ME. If my body fails to function properly from time to time, I can deal with it, for I am still myself. If my mind isn't working, existence is a nightmare.

Yes, sativa. Indica is also medicine - but sativa is life. Or at least that which makes it worth living, during the times when nothing else can.
 
You have a special relationship with sativa.:thumb:
I like indica is because of the shape of it's leaves,i think it's beautiful,and the sweat taste.Though i never have the chance to own one or taste it,i like indica.:high-five:
I do not know the story for sativa , today i start to know more of it from you.:thanks:
Sativas, of course. Often harder to grow, always longer to flower, usually less yield. But...

Sore and scarred, battered and limping... Pain, she is like an old friend - and a constant companion. Horse, my body flags sometimes, it is true. But that body is... just a thing. My mind, that is ME. If my body fails to function properly from time to time, I can deal with it, for I am still myself. If my mind isn't working, existence is a nightmare.

Yes, sativa. Indica is also medicine - but sativa is life. Or at least that which makes it worth living, during the times when nothing else can.
 
:welcome:How about we design one tent 2-in-1 tent,and another sinlge tent only for seedling/VGE ?:high-five:
So it depends on you want roll it up or just put it aside then.:cool:
Translates is no problem,i can understand. It's double sliders zipper,and we prevent the light leakage from inside of the zipper,it may not be a big problem? :Namaste:
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I recently just got my first LED grow lights, and they're the MarsHydro 600 model. Right when they arrived, I unboxed the lights and plugged them into the outlet where they'll be at and WOW are they bright! I'm already gonna be getting myself one more set so my Cannabis will have tons of light for my grow space they'll be in. Can't really go wrong when prioritizing quality over quantity when growing with LED.
 
:welcome:How about we design one tent 2-in-1 tent,and another sinlge tent only for seedling/VGE ?:high-five:

The only problem I can see with the rolling up tent door would be for people who have disabilities who can not reach up that high to actually open and fix it like say in a wheel chair, or have shoulder/arm problems. The tent itself isn't really 2 in 1 it's 2 tents.
 
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