Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

Haha I could do that if the led prices where right ;) lol maybe even in a few months lol I've a 300w cfl bulb but I was going to get 4 20w or so just for flowering the sides just for a bita extra light

am I even in the UK :rofl: (technical Lol) still the EU no matter what tho :circle-of-love:


Ohh when I checked earlier it said a price now it doesn't awesome :) very good offer just need to save for the 1200w Mars 2 :D
 
I've a 300w cfl bulb

I've used a few 125-watt and larger CFLs, even some of the really high-wattage (for CFL) ones that required mogul sockets. Most of them had what I'd consider to be a pretty significant issue - they were constructed with the tubes very close together, all the way around. This meant that the tubes that were on the "side" away from the plants could not shine directly at those plants, but instead their illumination had to go the (short) distance to the reflector, bounce off, and then travel to the plants. Even with the larger CFLs, penetration and the inverse square illumination law are still factors, so... yes, very significant issue. The only type that I've seen that lessened this issue looked like this:
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which did allow the light from the tubes on the off side to pass (more or less). I hope your large CFLs are of such a design.
 
:circle-of-love:so a week later,you can get a little rest:cheertwo:It seems everyone is getting busy in summer.haha.:high-five:you may go for your summer vacation later:high-five:
Your girls are getting more frosty,:goodjob:i think they must smlls good:volcano-smiley:
I'm glad to hear that you and your girls are having a good time with Mars Pro,it is with better built-up among our LED lights:bravo:
Your Dark Dragon got nice buds:thumb:Usually how long you will flower them?
Week 8 Flower

Ok guys we're getting really close to harvest and these ladys have gotten only water for the last 4 days, after checking back on there site kingdom organic seeds says these should go about 63-75 days so they should be chopped down in about a week. Its hard to say which is best as both have amazing frost and aroma right now but with the bigger buds and easier to handle structure im leaning heavily toward the red pheno right now.

One more thing i wanted to mention is the mars pro has outperformed my expectations, its pretty much been covering a 4x3 area with rock hard buds all around and while the buds on the edges are a bit smaller they are still top quality and something that i would pick over a dispensary bud for sure. All in all the mars pro series is without a dout the future of mars hydro, low heat and great coverage along with the lower prices make this a great long term investment.

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And my marsII 700 in action with my Yellow Pheno of the Dark Dragon!!!

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We do not sell Par38 on our website,we also do not enough stock at USA warehouse,so the quantity is limited.But maybe later we will work things out.
I think UK didn't leave EU yet,right? I didn't follow the recent news, I will check later.I also wonder if UK stay as part of the EU, what is the bad side of it?

I've seen little "mini" low-wattage LEDs like this before (not specifically from your company, though - I did not realize you sold them). Every time I did, I thought it'd be fun to do two comparison grows (with a clone from the same mother plant in each) between those and CFLs. Really small grows, perhaps, to keep such a test reasonably affordable - for example, four of the little LED "bulbs" and four CFL bulbs. Or some other number that was small enough to keep both the wattages and costs low. The only restrictions would be that the plant(s) used in each one would have to come from the same mother, NO other sources of illumination would be used (and the grows would have to be separate - not two sides of the same open box), and the overall wattages (of the lighting) must be within 10% of each other. I suppose that two autoflowering plants, of the same strain, grown from seed, could be used - IF it has been previously demonstrated that there are NO phenotype variations among different seeds (IOW, if one grew 100 seeds out under the same conditions, all 100 plants would have to express the same phenotype/characteristics). Otherwise, it wouldn't be a valid experiment.

I hope someone performs such an experiment one of these days.





Lol. You folks haven't abandoned the EU already, have you?




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Haha I could do that if the led prices where right ;) lol maybe even in a few months lol I've a 300w cfl bulb but I was going to get 4 20w or so just for flowering the sides just for a bita extra light

am I even in the UK :rofl: (technical Lol) still the EU no matter what tho :circle-of-love:


Ohh when I checked earlier it said a price now it doesn't awesome :) very good offer just need to save for the 1200w Mars 2 :D




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I also wonder if UK stay as part of the EU, what is the bad side of it?

Well, it sort of ties their respective economies together. This isn't really the forum for that particular discussion, lol. But take Greece, for example. There is a staggering amount of debt there, much of which has been written off - and, regardless of what occurs in that country, much more will likely end up being written off in the future. The EU has a single currency and such things are probably not good for its value (at least in the short to moderate future). For that and other reasons, if I understand correctly, some in England (et al) would be happy to leave the EU. I don't know... It's like, if you have a finite, limited amount of money and ten children. The money you have is, if used carefully, enough to provide for your family. But you split your money up between those ten children - and each one of them spends their allotment as they see fit (and a few of the children are hopelessly insane). That's not really a perfect example... But it should give you an idea. Some people are of the belief that the only way a unified currency and closely tied set of economies will work is if they are all governed by one entity. <SHRUGS> I don't really know how well that would work, either - find a scenario where there are as few as two people and it is very likely that, sooner or later, they will disagree on policy. Add a third person, and that likelihood becomes a certainty.

I wondered, back when I first heard about the concept of a European Union, why it wasn't set up as several groups of countries whose economies are more comparable. IOW, instead of all of them being under one umbrella, you'd take a country that was struggling economically (such as Greece), and pair it off with one or more countries that are either also struggling or that have economies which are still... I would never use the term "insignificant," but one that are not economic powerhouses, perhaps because they have only recently started growing. There might be more of such countries, so a chart of all countries involved might take the shape of a two-dimensional pyramid (with the few economic giants on top). You would need some sort of structure in place to encourage those nations nearer to - or at - the top of the pyramid to help bring those groups at the lower levels up (but not to throw good money after bad). It probably wouldn't work all that well, though, because it would still be difficult to enforce the rules among many different countries. At least not without the threat - and, eventually, use - of some of the more powerful countries' military forces. And in today's global political climate, it seems like such forces are either used for petty reasons... or else the process ends up being some (realistically) pitiful, mostly useless (in the long term, at any rate) thing that is crippled by those countries' inner political games.

I've wondered if some kind of setup along the same lines might - in the hypothetical and, alas, mythical perfect world - be set up as an answer to the current and ongoing pollution that is not so slowly wrecking our air, ground, water, climate, and future. Because, the way I see it... The so called third-world and developing nations of the world are, if left to themselves, likely to produce quite a significant amount of pollution. And it's not really fair (for wont of a better term) to expect otherwise - after all, we (the developed nations of the world) sure produced a lot of it as we got to this point (and, sadly, still do). Look at India. Possibly China, but I don't know enough about your country to be guaranteed of being 100% factual, lol, and I do not wish to give offense. But take India. 40 years ago (or less), the majority of the population did not own a motorized vehicle. More recently, their economy has grown. And, as a result of this, many more people can afford to own such things. Thus... more pollution. They also have more industrial activity - more pollution again. To some extent, and considering only the short term of course, disregarding environmental concerns is "cheaper" and can allow for faster growth. London, England was a very polluted place during the Industrial Revolution, lol. But we know better now, and their economy (and also their technology level) allows them to be far less polluting. Would England have grown as it did if the Industrial Revolution had not taken place? LMAO. That's what I mean about being fair - developing nations today are always going to be handicapped if they are forced to follow "a perfect world's" environmental policies. However, life as we know it may well be doomed if something drastic is not done. Not "done in a few countries" - but done everywhere on the planet. One way to help the world change would be to set things up so that, if the developing nations actually decide to become wholly "green," those nations that have already achieved a certain high level of development... help them do so, as a way to compensate them for being somewhat late to the party (so to speak). Another way would be for those developed nations to band together and declare an all-out, total war on every single other country, I suppose. But, well, I sort of think my idea has more merit ;) .

I see that I have managed to combine going completely off-topic with my penchant for rambling, lol, so I will stop here.
 
:circle-of-love:so a week later,you can get a little rest:cheertwo:It seems everyone is getting busy in summer.haha.:high-five:you may go for your summer vacation later:high-five:
Your girls are getting more frosty,:goodjob:i think they must smlls good:volcano-smiley:
I'm glad to hear that you and your girls are having a good time with Mars Pro,it is with better built-up among our LED lights:bravo:
Your Dark Dragon got nice buds:thumb:Usually how long you will flower them?

last time they only went 8 weeks but i had a lot of issues growing them in soil, according to there website they should go about 10 weeks but these ladys are just about done so ill day about 65-68 days. im going to pull the white one first as its not showing as much new growth and then pull the red pheno when the white one was finished drying as i dont have a ton of room right now haha
 
Very good answer Tortured Soul, I'm also hoping we do leave as it would help the cause of a united Ireland or maybe that's wishful thinking :) lol


I also have a different bulb my 300w is the long one :/ but I've 4 20w cfls for flowering later on to put at the sides and I'm getting a tent next week.


Sara I will defo let you know :) still debating to go for a smaller one tho as I prob won't use the full size of the tent to be fair as I'm only growing for medical purposes for myself so only a couple would do me :)
 
I literally just got one switching a 300w superplant bullshit mixed cfl for the series 2 400w way cooler even with the heat we got today. The difference is amazing I actually think the light dropped the temp in there a few degrees
 
I literally just got one switching a 300w superplant bullshit mixed cfl for the series 2 400w way cooler even with the heat we got today. The difference is amazing I actually think the light dropped the temp in there a few degrees

Heat was why I spent extra for leds in the first place.I like my landlord and dont want to knock holes in his house.
 
So i need light but the chater about the scamers riping ppl off got ne scared to order as money us so darn tight had d to revover ftom a loss


I doubt that scammers have taken over the company's own website, lol.
 
Real speedy delivery guys. The light is a lot brighter then I thought. The temperature of my tent is way easier to control then with the big cfls. Only getting a 2* difference with the light on and off. I have a 60cm x 60cmx 140cm tent with a 187m3/h winflex fan and a small clip fan and it's working like a charm I might get another fan but that's just to get the air moving a bit more.

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Yeah right now I got her over a 60 day (now 110+ days) haze x lowryder except this plant went a little crazy it's got the "true haze" phenotype so it looks really odd and taking alot longer then it should.... almost looks like dr. grinspoon by barney's farm I'm flushing it now so should be ok next week I can't really tell if she's liking the light or not but with this thing I can't really tell much....
 
It's no problem,haha.I do not know too much about the EU as good as you guys, I guess everything has two side,depends on which side is more valuable for them.
I watched many movies which the stories happened in England, I have a special feeling for it, it's just so beautiful ...
Well, it sort of ties their respective economies together. This isn't really the forum for that particular discussion, lol. But take Greece, for example. There is a staggering amount of debt there, much of which has been written off - and, regardless of what occurs in that country, much more will likely end up being written off in the future. The EU has a single currency and such things are probably not good for its value (at least in the short to moderate future). For that and other reasons, if I understand correctly, some in England (et al) would be happy to leave the EU. I don't know... It's like, if you have a finite, limited amount of money and ten children. The money you have is, if used carefully, enough to provide for your family. But you split your money up between those ten children - and each one of them spends their allotment as they see fit (and a few of the children are hopelessly insane). That's not really a perfect example... But it should give you an idea. Some people are of the belief that the only way a unified currency and closely tied set of economies will work is if they are all governed by one entity. <SHRUGS> I don't really know how well that would work, either - find a scenario where there are as few as two people and it is very likely that, sooner or later, they will disagree on policy. Add a third person, and that likelihood becomes a certainty.

I wondered, back when I first heard about the concept of a European Union, why it wasn't set up as several groups of countries whose economies are more comparable. IOW, instead of all of them being under one umbrella, you'd take a country that was struggling economically (such as Greece), and pair it off with one or more countries that are either also struggling or that have economies which are still... I would never use the term "insignificant," but one that are not economic powerhouses, perhaps because they have only recently started growing. There might be more of such countries, so a chart of all countries involved might take the shape of a two-dimensional pyramid (with the few economic giants on top). You would need some sort of structure in place to encourage those nations nearer to - or at - the top of the pyramid to help bring those groups at the lower levels up (but not to throw good money after bad). It probably wouldn't work all that well, though, because it would still be difficult to enforce the rules among many different countries. At least not without the threat - and, eventually, use - of some of the more powerful countries' military forces. And in today's global political climate, it seems like such forces are either used for petty reasons... or else the process ends up being some (realistically) pitiful, mostly useless (in the long term, at any rate) thing that is crippled by those countries' inner political games.

I've wondered if some kind of setup along the same lines might - in the hypothetical and, alas, mythical perfect world - be set up as an answer to the current and ongoing pollution that is not so slowly wrecking our air, ground, water, climate, and future. Because, the way I see it... The so called third-world and developing nations of the world are, if left to themselves, likely to produce quite a significant amount of pollution. And it's not really fair (for wont of a better term) to expect otherwise - after all, we (the developed nations of the world) sure produced a lot of it as we got to this point (and, sadly, still do). Look at India. Possibly China, but I don't know enough about your country to be guaranteed of being 100% factual, lol, and I do not wish to give offense. But take India. 40 years ago (or less), the majority of the population did not own a motorized vehicle. More recently, their economy has grown. And, as a result of this, many more people can afford to own such things. Thus... more pollution. They also have more industrial activity - more pollution again. To some extent, and considering only the short term of course, disregarding environmental concerns is "cheaper" and can allow for faster growth. London, England was a very polluted place during the Industrial Revolution, lol. But we know better now, and their economy (and also their technology level) allows them to be far less polluting. Would England have grown as it did if the Industrial Revolution had not taken place? LMAO. That's what I mean about being fair - developing nations today are always going to be handicapped if they are forced to follow "a perfect world's" environmental policies. However, life as we know it may well be doomed if something drastic is not done. Not "done in a few countries" - but done everywhere on the planet. One way to help the world change would be to set things up so that, if the developing nations actually decide to become wholly "green," those nations that have already achieved a certain high level of development... help them do so, as a way to compensate them for being somewhat late to the party (so to speak). Another way would be for those developed nations to band together and declare an all-out, total war on every single other country, I suppose. But, well, I sort of think my idea has more merit ;) .

I see that I have managed to combine going completely off-topic with my penchant for rambling, lol, so I will stop here.




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I see ,so usually should flower them for 10 weeks, thanks for your information . So after this run finish, when will you prepare to start another run? Or you will take a rest for a short time?
last time they only went 8 weeks but i had a lot of issues growing them in soil, according to there website they should go about 10 weeks but these ladys are just about done so ill day about 65-68 days. im going to pull the white one first as its not showing as much new growth and then pull the red pheno when the white one was finished drying as i dont have a ton of room right now haha




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When will the result come out? Maybe your dream will come true, at least you guys got this chance to vote now.They said:something is better than nothing,haha.
Very good answer Tortured Soul, I'm also hoping we do leave as it would help the cause of a united Ireland or maybe that's wishful thinking :) lol


I also have a different bulb my 300w is the long one :/ but I've 4 20w cfls for flowering later on to put at the sides and I'm getting a tent next week.


Sara I will defo let you know :) still debating to go for a smaller one tho as I prob won't use the full size of the tent to be fair as I'm only growing for medical purposes for myself so only a couple would do me :)




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