Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

[Mars Hydro]

thank you, BlazingBill. We will not put logo on the package. In some warehouses, it's blank. However, in other warehouses, they will put "led light" lable. It's great to know yours are plain.

I read somewhere here about mars being discreet.
Well when I got my tent it didn't say anything on the package about mars and when I got my light it was also blank,
The only thing on my mars light box was FRAGILE!
And these items were both delivered in Dec right before Christmas
Thanx Sara! will be buying more lights before spring.

 

[Mars Hydro]

thanks for the info, Stoney... The temp is literally increasing with one led light less...

No my Mars ll 1200 does not get hot at all no where near a 600 hps. I have mine running 1 inch away from a 400 watt hps and my Temps stay at 75-77. The temp without the Mars 1200 is 75-78 so really no change in my use and I'm in a 3.2x3.2x7 tent. I believe it's 3.2x3.2 it is not over 3.5x3.5

 

[geopv]

Hey guys need some help, this is day 2, or 3rd 12 hour cycle day and with my mars 1600
the tops and some lower parts started yellowing, the led light is 27 inches above tallest canopy
they are just yellowing, doesn't look like nutrient burn and the plants are still growing great its just the color for now
running advanced nutrients conno, bud factor, carbo load, kushi kush. ppm is at 1600 but ive let it go up slowly during vegg so its not a dramatic jump

 

[randy355]

Hey guys need some help, this is day 2, or 3rd 12 hour cycle day and with my mars 1600
the tops and some lower parts started yellowing, the led light is 27 inches above tallest canopy
they are just yellowing, doesn't look like nutrient burn and the plants are still growing great its just the color for now
running advanced nutrients conno, bud factor, carbo load, kushi kush. ppm is at 1600 but ive let it go up slowly during vegg so its not a dramatic jump

I know they warn people not to use the Connoisseur series unless you are experienced both in growing and the equipment being used then you did not mention your strain Kushi Kush is only for Kush strain plants as for the ppm 1600 seems a bit high unless you have grown this strain before and know how much you can push it you also did not mention PH or medium you are using .
The nutrient manufacture should have a feeding schedule and a ppm chart if not I would try a good flush and start fresh and remember it will take time to revert and it might not ever change just not spread also give the plants a good check for critters

 

[geopv]

its a straight og kush plant, ph is 5.8 rock wool, no critters and ive grown on sensi before so i decided to finally upgrade. Havent grown this strain, but my neighbor has and he told me they take the high ppm like a champ, and like i said it wasnt a sudden jump they been steadily going up. Went to go take a look and it might be in my head only the bud sites are yellowing, the rest of the plant is green with no signs of decline. I dont know but is that a normal sign of flowering? either way seriously considering flushing.

 

[growstrong]

Hi Sara! Today I noticed the 3'11" x 3'11" grow tent is no longer on the website. Is it being discontinued? Or just out of stock?

 

[randy355]

Well Sara, I am emotionally falling apart I just noticed my 96 X 3 has a bad Diode it has only been 1 1/2 years of near constant use and one diode had the nerve to fail Wait let me get my Happy Pillsnow I'm calm so what is Mars Hydro going to do to me er, for me? A trip to China to get it fixed ? A new Car ? or at least the winning PowerBall Numbers (i'll Share) Just don't make me come over there and throw HPS bulbs at you or sneak some Super Hot peppers in to your Tea. After all I grew perhaps 6 or 8 lbs of a product that costs about $200 a oz under that light and now a diode is dead and it didn't even say goodbye WHAT DO I DO !!!!WHAT!!!!! And it was one of the green ones you know the green ones that aren't really there YES ONE OF THOSE


Just had to add a bit of humor things are a bit to serious lately I will get a photo off to you soon Sara but if you do have the powerball numbers I really will share

 

[randy355]

its a straight og kush plant, ph is 5.8 rock wool, no critters and ive grown on sensi before so i decided to finally upgrade. Havent grown this strain, but my neighbor has and he told me they take the high ppm like a champ, and like i said it wasnt a sudden jump they been steadily going up. Went to go take a look and it might be in my head only the bud sites are yellowing, the rest of the plant is green with no signs of decline. I dont know but is that a normal sign of flowering? either way seriously considering flushing.

Not normal with any thing I have grown, do a strain review there might be a phenotype that yellows in flower I know there are strains that do Sorry with only 20 posts didn't know how much you have grown and those nutes are costly and some people in the Hydro stores that don't grow recommend them.
Did a quick google on the strain and it describes lime green buds but in the pictures it showed yellowing of the leaves try looking at the different grow reviews and make your decision

 

[UncleCannabis]

I have been wondering the same but any info on the new lights has slowed the last post by Flyboy he wanted to sell his Cree and lately everyone here just wants to add HPS. I have been able to get good crops from my Dumb Lights and all my HPS found a new home and they are not missed. Only regular post is Brian and his plants look good just not good enough to make me spend $3K on the lights. It has been long enough that someone should be well into flower to give a decent report but so far nothing. All I can add is I am looking at around a 3-4 lb harvest from a mix of all Mars old lights and I am happy with the lights performance so far.

Thanks for the input Randy. Much appreciated. If I recall correctly 420Flyboy was running a massive amount of light in his tents. I remember visiting his grow journal and thinking that his lighting set up was really cool but bordering on overkill. I was also wondered how the hell he was able to keep his tent temps under control. Anyways, I don't mean this as a critisism of Flyboy's setup or anything but too much light can be just a bad if not worse than not having enough light and could contribute to less than desirable results. ??

Here are a few pics from my current grow using a combination of Reflectors and discontinued Sun Series lights.

So far I've been pleased with yields, trichome development, bud development, etc. I should probably continue to use my current setup and put off buying the new and improved lights until more actual user reviews are available for the Mars-Pro series.

Thanks again for your feedback Randy. Puff, puff, pass brother!

 

[UncleCannabis]

Hello Uncle, long time no see. Mars Pro is upgraded Sun series. Mars Pro has vents in the front board and runs cooler. Plus, the remote controller can create sunset and sunrise effect on plants. Uncle,since you are satisfied with Sun series, you will love Mars Pro series, too.

To be perfectly honest, it's the remote control function that is a huge turn off for me. I see it as a weak link in the chain and just something that has the potential for premature failure. It would be very disappointing to have a perfectly good light that will not work because of unnecessary options or gadgets that are a weak link in the design.
Apologies for what may be misunderstood as a negative attitude toward the new remote control. Many years of experience working as an equipment design engineer and project manager has taught me that the best path to product reliability is to follow the KISS approach. Introducing unnecessary parts or functions in any product will typically result in increased cost, lower reliability, reduced product life, and an increase in warranty claims. IMHO this is an unacceptable trade off considering that I do not need and will not use the remote or any of it's functions.

 

[randy355]

Thanks for the input Randy. Much appreciated. If I recall correctly 420Flyboy was running a massive amount of light in his tents. I remember visiting his grow journal and thinking that his lighting set up was really cool but bordering on overkill. I was also wondered how the hell he was able to keep his tent temps under control. Anyways, I don't mean this as a critisism of Flyboy's setup or anything but too much light can be just a bad if not worse than not having enough light and could contribute to less than desirable results. ??

Here are a few pics from my current grow using a combination of Reflectors and discontinued Sun Series lights.

So far I've been pleased with yields, trichome development, bud development, etc. I should probably continue to use my current setup and put off buying the new and improved lights until more actual user reviews are available for the Mars-Pro series.

Thanks again for your feedback Randy. Puff, puff, pass brother!

That's about the same place I'm at I get good results from my lights now but Santa brought me a nice new 9ft tall tent and the new lights would be more efficient but I would really like to see some results. So far I have not seen any that would make me spend the cash although there is a commercial light that has my interest only it has a commercial price. Your plants look fantastic it's a shame the Sun Series was dropped I did a lux test on a Cree hybrid light and hope Mars will make a simple Cree light as the lux output was twice that of a reflector and the draw was about the same. Until then Dumb Lights Rule !

You need to pop off one of those Colas and fill that hat it looks a bit empty
Those Pics needed to be seen again

 

[ConstantGreen]

To be perfectly honest, it's the remote control function that is a huge turn off for me. IMHO this is an unacceptable trade off considering that I do not need and will not use the remote or any of it's functions.

I mostly feel the same. Except I've just learned of the Emerson effect. I don't know much yet, but apparently you can put plants to sleep 1-2 hours sooner if your last period of light is only >700nm red or something. Allowing you to flower on a 14/10 sched. + 2 hours of light = + yield. So settings for the individual wavelengths could be an interesting improvement. But I don't think the pro panels use >700nm except infrared. Maybe that's enough. I know someone here is using deep red for the first and last hours of their pro cycle.

 

[randy355]

I mostly feel the same. Except I've just learned of the Emerson effect. I don't know much yet, but apparently you can put plants to sleep 1-2 hours sooner if your last period of light is only >700nm red or something. Allowing you to flower on a 14/10 sched. + 2 hours of light = + yield. So settings for the individual wavelengths could be an interesting improvement. But I don't think the pro panels use >700nm except infrared. Maybe that's enough. I know someone here is using deep red for the first and last hours of their pro cycle.

I don't think the Pro series have anything above 660nm

 

[MusicB127]

I would dispute the payment with your credit card company, you wont be billed until its resolved. I would immediately go to Walmart and get a 4 pack of 2700k 23watt cfls , two clamp lights, and two splitters. these will keep your plants alive in veg, and provide sidelight later. Then I would reorder a LED light. If you gave the proper shipping address, and it wasnt shipped to that address, you have no control nor responsibility in that matter. They screwed up, let them fix it.

This might be what I'll have to do doobie. Thank you very much for the suggestion on the CFL,s.
I'm just always noticing Sara handling issues so I figured i would try bringing it up to her and see if she knew what I should do next and if she could help me other than keep me waiting/giving me the runaround.

Indeed the proper shipping address was given. Which is exactly why I chose to pay by credit card and not any of their other forms of payment. (Western union, PayPal, or bank transfer) To be honest I didn't even have a PayPal account when this order was created. I have just recently made one, and I personally have never been a fan of PayPal so I never use it if I don't have to. I've always had a friend order something for me through their PayPal account so I don't have to hassle with the bullshit like what's occurring now. (Long story short I have a friend who works for PayPal and all the shit I hear about it you would not believe)


"For security reason, PayPal only allows us to ship to PayPal confirmed address. Therefore, we can only ship to PayPal confirmed address. If you want to ship to a different address, you may login to your PayPal account to add the new shipping address then check out, or you may simply check out with West Union or credit card."


^ this is exactly what it states on their website and this is exactly why I chose to pay by credit card! To specifically prevent any miscommunication of shipping address. Yet that obviously didn't seem to work. I've checked my account page on their website multiple times and the address in which I actually reside at is still labeled As the shipping address for the light to be shipped to and for my information and profile; but they didn't send it to the address provided as "shipping address."

Just hoping for the situation to be resolved soon, and to either receive what I paid for or my money back.

 

[randy355]

This might be what I'll have to do doobie. Thank you very much for the suggestion on the CFL,s.
I'm just always noticing Sara handling issues so I figured i would try bringing it up to her and see if she knew what I should do next and if she could help me other than keep me waiting/giving me the runaround.

Indeed the proper shipping address was given. Which is exactly why I chose to pay by credit card and not any of their other forms of payment. (Western union, PayPal, or bank transfer) To be honest I didn't even have a PayPal account when this order was created. I have just recently made one, and I personally have never been a fan of PayPal so I never use it if I don't have to. I've always had a friend order something for me through their PayPal account so I don't have to hassle with the bullshit like what's occurring now. (Long story short I have a friend who works for PayPal and all the shit I hear about it you would not believe)


"For security reason, PayPal only allows us to ship to PayPal confirmed address. Therefore, we can only ship to PayPal confirmed address. If you want to ship to a different address, you may login to your PayPal account to add the new shipping address then check out, or you may simply check out with West Union or credit card."


^ this is exactly what it states on their website and this is exactly why I chose to pay by credit card! To specifically prevent any miscommunication of shipping address. Yet that obviously didn't seem to work. I've checked my account page on their website multiple times and the address in which I actually reside at is still labeled As the shipping address for the light to be shipped to and for my information and profile; but they didn't send it to the address provided as "shipping address."

Just hoping for the situation to be resolved soon, and to either receive what I paid for or my money back.

I would file a complaint with anyone that would take it. If you paid by credit card the address shipped to and where your billing statement goes has to match or the charge shouldn't have gone through ask the CC what they were given

 

[randy355]

Hey guys need some help, this is day 2, or 3rd 12 hour cycle day and with my mars 1600
the tops and some lower parts started yellowing, the led light is 27 inches above tallest canopy
they are just yellowing, doesn't look like nutrient burn and the plants are still growing great its just the color for now
running advanced nutrients conno, bud factor, carbo load, kushi kush. ppm is at 1600 but ive let it go up slowly during vegg so its not a dramatic jump

You are adding extra Cal/Mag to your water

 

[MusicB127]

To take this a step farther if you paid with paypal file a dispute that will speed up the process.

If it was shipped "signature required" any one at that address over 18 could sign. The shipper would be required to produce that signature.

About all this bullshit about friendly neighbors ...yada yada. Does Mars Hydro understand the word "discreet"? Growing is illegal in most states and no one wants their "friendly neighbors" to know anything about you receiving grow lights.

Just solve the problem ...... simple as that.

Like I mentioned to doobie I did not use PayPal I used my credit card. In which I may just contact my bank and file a dispute that way on Monday if stuff doesn't get anywhere.
I was told that the item WAS signature required but that never seems to actually be true. Quite frankly if that process was actually followed by them then none of this would have most likely happened.
Thank you Gnarl E Green for your concern and I'm glad you see where I'm coming from and agree about this whole crap about "friendly neighbors" so ridiculous!

 

[ConstantGreen]

How are you suggesting your old address was transposed, then? If you didn't enter it on the mars site and didn't use paypal... how could they have gotten another address? And the sig point is kinda moot. Anyone can sign for it. They don't require the signer to show I.D. or have a library of everyone's signatures to verify against.

I don't think it's the bank, UPS, or mars' responsibility here. You should track it down yourself. You know it was delivered to a resident of your old address, so if you go there and it's missing then you'd have to take it up with police as stolen mail or something.

What does your email confirmation say for the shipping address?

 

[geopv]

Yes I'm adding 10ml/g with the ro water. Been doing it since veg. Also the led played a little trick on my eyes I pulled one plant out and it's a green yellow and only on the bud sites, I'm hoping it's just a show of flowering. They are taking in 1500pm Co2 like champs and are still very stable at 80 degrees. I used to grow with my brother at his place so I only went a couple of times a week. Now that I grow by myself I see day to day Trouble 'shooting is very real. So far very satisfied with the 1600 still waiting to see if I should add 2 old 600 Mars one on each side

 

[MusicB127]

From what I've read, it could still be on the customer.

Sounds like they paid with their CC, but through paypal? Paypal shows the shipping and billing addresses right there when you're selecting payment method. I've almost made that mistake before where it popped up and I only gave it a quick glance while clicking through it, not realizing that my primary shipping address was out of date. I noticed it in an email confirmation and quickly canceled the order and redid it. If they moved 2 months ago, that's probably what happened. Sometimes sites will ask for your shipping information during the order, but then if you choose to pay through paypal, the address settings there can override your entered address.

There's really no other explanation for an old address being used. Mars Hydro doesn't know what's current, that's on you to keep track.

But Mars could provide better email order confirmations with shipping address and payment method and stuff so it's easier to catch those mistakes yourself. All they gave me when I ordered 6 months ago was a 4 digit number and note that they would email me again with tracking, which they never actually did.

Thank you for your concern versai. The mistake may be on me as the customer, and if it is I don't have a problem owning up to the mistake as long as the situation is resolved correctly, but I truly honestly do not believe it is on me. Especially when I contacted Mars hydro over the phone hours later after placing my order to make sure they had the correct shipping address before anything was even packaged, processed, finalized, or shipped. In which I was also verified they did. Well someone from there obviously lied to me.
Once again I did indeed pay with my CC but NOT through PayPal. Mars Hydro's website also shows the shipping and billing address right there on my profile and allows you to select the address at checkout. i can't understand why the product wouldn't be shipped to the "shipping address" clearly labeled online!

My shipping address isn't out of date. Where I reside at is indeed my labeled shipping address for everything and it is definitely up to date because I have received all of my other mail and all my Holiday packages made it to me fine. I do understand what you're saying about PayPal overriding an address and stuff but I did it solely using my CC. I understand that marshydro doesn't know what is current and that it is on me to keep track. But this is my first order through them. So they should have it correct for the first time as there were no previous orders along with I did my part calling them to double check they had my correct shipping address for reassurance.

See I did not receive any email or anything until December 27th at 7:48pm. And all it stated was: billed on 12/21/15
delivered on 12/23/15 left on porch. I had not even known that my light left a warehouse, nor that it was shipped incorrectly, or anything at all until I received the email from Maria. So I was so confused when I was reading that it was "left on the porch and delivered" I looked everywhere near my door and mailbox. (As I don't have a porch lol) so I definitely agree with you that Mars hydro could provide better email confirmations with information such as that, because then stuff wouldn't of been missed and customer's orders could be more organized For less of a hassle; but instead they emailed me almost a week later from the time of which my order/phone call was placed.