Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

Hey guys I'm having a little trouble designing a grow box for my 144x3 Reflector that I've now owned for 6 months and only turned on to test... Yes I'm lazy but it's summer here so go a couple of outdoor projects to keep me going.
So I got a 144x3 Reflector; I wanna grow 2 plants at a time in soil/coco in a smart pot swick. Hoping to get a zip per plant minimum (I don't need much), but not expecting miracles, esp. first couple of grows. Eventually wanna try scrog, but for now I am happy to LST. I don't really want to veg any longer than a month, and am hoping for less veg time than that.
Basically I just need a MINIMUM height. I want to keep the box as small as possible. The surface area will be approx. 600mm x 1000mm (about 2 ft x 3ft). Security is the issue for me, and I have got a lot of space but no walls or cupboards to hide the box so a small one could go in a corner of my workshop, and be covered with tools and crap, which is perfect camo. I am untidy.
Was originally planning a 2 metre high cabinet but for 2-4 oz I know I don't need that height. I can sew up my own smart pots so can make any size/shape pot so any and all advice or ideas welcome.
Cheers and happy non-religious xmas to all!
 
So here's another update from my first MH LED harvest. I pulled 13.2 ounces (dry) of ripe tops from my 6'x3' SCROG on the first cut. The second and final cut was completed on Friday, and there appears to be a lot more than I anticipated there would be. I am a big advocate of cutting in stages, another 7 days can do wonders for lower, scraggly buds that were being shaded by the larger tops. I have 3 1/2 of my cheap IKEA hanging racks full of buds that are now on their 2nd day of drying. Based on what I pulled from the initial cut, I'm guessing there is another 4-7 ounces left, putting my total harvest somewhere in the 17-20 ounce range which I am very pleased with. This only includes pure bud, there is still another 3-5 ounces or so of popcorn left on the screen that will be chopped/dried and used for butter, edibles and tinctures.

Here is a pic of what I have left drying:

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And some bud shots of the first cut that has been curing in hard for about 5 days:

Female Seeds - C99: very dainty sativa structure, extremely frosty, reeks of pure pineapple with hints of grapefruit.

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And here is the Sweet Seeds - Cream Caramel - really fat, chunky, dense indica buds. Extremely complex and delicious aroma with hints of caramel, chocolate, fruit. Beautiful colouring with lots of reds, blue and purple. Excellent resin production. Monster of a plant, will end up yielding 5-6+ ounces once all the drying is done.

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My wife just made a Grow Room funny... "How do you tell your girls that you love them? You Breathe Hot and Heavy all over them."
 
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CatfishKnight said:
My wife just made a Grow Room funny... "How do you tell your girls that you love them? You Breathe Hot and Heavy all over them."
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Can I have your opinion on my grow area choices? So I have a basement that is great for a garden but when it rains it floods some I do have like a drain hole where all the water is lead I want to take my garden down there and flower my ladies under my Mars ll 1200 and my 400w HPS but I am worried about powdery mildew and pest. Do you think I will be ok going down there as long as I keep a good air flow and if it does flood with them down there clean the water asap? Or should I just stay upstairs in my nice little 3.3x3.3x7 tent and flower only under the Mars 1200
 
Stoney Roads said:
Can I have your opinion on my grow area choices? So I have a basement that is great for a garden but when it rains it floods some I do have like a drain hole where all the water is lead I want to take my garden down there and flower my ladies under my Mars ll 1200 and my 400w HPS but I am worried about powdery mildew and pest. Do you think I will be ok going down there as long as I keep a good air flow and if it does flood with them down there clean the water asap? Or should I just stay upstairs in my nice little 3.3x3.3x7 tent and flower only under the Mars 1200
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Tent would be easier. Maybe have a small heater in basement to help on the mildew from the coolness and dampness. And you will need good airflow. Any way to paint the walls with water sealant?
 
Stoney Roads said:
So you think I will be ok. In the basement.
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Basement will be easier to maintain temps. Air flow is a big deal though. Look up Mr Green how to grow chronic on YouTube. He does a nice basement grow. And shows how to set it up properly. I'd bleach the area first if possible though.

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Stoney Roads said:
So you think I will be ok. In the basement.
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I think a basement is naturally a lot cooler. So you could use a small oil filled radiator heater on wheels to keep it just at the right temperature. I have one in my Grow Room. I like it. It has a digital display on it to set the temperature that I want. Just have to keep the dampness out. Check on YouTube.
 
I love the friendly informative folks in this forum.

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santb said:
Hey guys I'm having a little trouble designing a grow box for my 144x3 Reflector that I've now owned for 6 months and only turned on to test... Yes I'm lazy but it's summer here so go a couple of outdoor projects to keep me going.
So I got a 144x3 Reflector; I wanna grow 2 plants at a time in soil/coco in a smart pot swick. Hoping to get a zip per plant minimum (I don't need much), but not expecting miracles, esp. first couple of grows. Eventually wanna try scrog, but for now I am happy to LST. I don't really want to veg any longer than a month, and am hoping for less veg time than that.
Basically I just need a MINIMUM height. I want to keep the box as small as possible. The surface area will be approx. 600mm x 1000mm (about 2 ft x 3ft). Security is the issue for me, and I have got a lot of space but no walls or cupboards to hide the box so a small one could go in a corner of my workshop, and be covered with tools and crap, which is perfect camo. I am untidy.
Was originally planning a 2 metre high cabinet but for 2-4 oz I know I don't need that height. I can sew up my own smart pots so can make any size/shape pot so any and all advice or ideas welcome.
Cheers and happy non-religious xmas to all!
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Around 1ft from top of the girls,a little more through veg though.So with the hangers and distance from top of plants I'd say 2ft from roof which will leave you with a bit over 4ft growing space which should be plenty with a short veg stage and great light for a 2 grow setup:)
Cheers and hope it turns out well for you
 
What distance is recommend for the mars 2 400 in a 2x2 area?

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Hi Sara.
A Good Company would stand behind their quotes. We here on the Forum are your testers to help Marspro improve and develop a better product.
We are even willing to spend money on the Led strips just to test them out when we don't really need them. We just want to make Marspro a better company and one that takes care of it's buyers.
Seems like the manager Ruby talked to just wanted to be greedy and get American money from us.
He said no, no, no.
Buy 50 or more at about triple the price.
That manager made Marspro look very bad and deceitful.
Only interested in making money and not the testers interest.
Marspro will lose money now due to the manager's attitude.

Here's what I was quoted...
John, only--BAR24-120CM and-BAR48-120CM are available.-

The price for 4pcs BAR24-120CM is USD290
The price for 4pcs BAR48-120CM is USD460

I really enjoyed Marspro, and I love my Cree128 units.
They are looking great and my plants love them.
 
Im of two minds here.

The old gnarly hippy home grower in me thinks I should have the opportunity to buy one or two fixtures configured exactly how I want them to complement what I have already purchased from Mars. At the quoted price plus shipping.

The businessman in me is starting to see a much bigger picture with almost limitless possibilities. I have a million questions and would like to hear MArs HYdro's vision on this..

I have some ideas in both directions.


Things have a way to work out. I know Sara does her best to make that happen.
Seems like poor communication all around.
What I think I am hearing might not be what they think they are saying. :)
But I am still listening.
 
Toddosh said:
Around 1ft from top of the girls,a little more through veg though.So with the hangers and distance from top of plants I'd say 2ft from roof which will leave you with a bit over 4ft growing space which should be plenty with a short veg stage and great light for a 2 grow setup:)
Cheers and hope it turns out well for you
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Cheers for that. it's probably been posted a hundred times but the minimum distances are tricky for me as I'm bad at math! I would rather let the plants grow into the light but if they are too wide then edges at top of canopy become the issue. I'm stoked to keep reading how good the Reflectors are and as a newb I wanna keep it simple, and was thinking cupboard size; where will it go, then it occurred to me it doesn't need to be that big...
 
:circle-of-love: Hi Cat, that is the case... If the order quantity is less than 50pcs, the wholesale price is not available..:kiss:
CatfishKnight said:
Well I emailed Sara but Ruby answered my email and gave me a quote. I told her what Sara quoted on forum. Ruby asked her manager and the manager almost tripled the quote. I am not really happy now. I was going to pay and test them out for Sara. Here is the response and quotes.

.John, yes, that is FOB price (Free on Board price). That price doesn't include shipping fee... As we will ship from China, the shipping fee varies from countries...

And John, I just got a notice from the manager. As the Grow Bar is only for wholesales order, the Moq for -Grow Bar is 50pcs. If it's not up to the quantity, the sample test price will be double...

So here is new quotation for you.

The price for 4pcs BAR24-120CM is USD580

The price for 8pcs BAR24-120CM is USD1030

The price for 4pcs BAR48-120CM is USD920

The price for 8pcs BAR48-120CM is USD1600
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:circle-of-love: Hi Gnarl, Lucy is on holiday right now... :cheesygrinsmiley: She has asked other colleagues to help you.:circle-of-love:
Gnarl E Green said:
Thanks for the follow up, Cat I had a similar experience discussing the lights with Sara and Lucy in the past. No one seems on the same page. At this point Lucy no longer replies at all.

That pretty much ends any interest I might have had. I may have fallen off a turnip truck , but I didn't land on my head.
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