Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

Right now I have a 400 watt MH/HPS and a mars 300 watt in a 4x4 area that's why I was thinking I can get away with the Mars ll 900 but it seems like the Mars ll 1200 is my best option.
 
You think you can share a pic of how you have your lights sset up for your 4x4 area please.

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This is what has me confused with the LEDs a 400 watt MH/HPS covers a 4x4 area no problem I been using for over a year now but 400 watt equivalent led one that draws 400 watts from the wall don't have the same coverage. Is that true?
 
New light pro epistar 320 didn't go through its programmed routine again , had to unplug unit and resend program from remote , the remote issue has not been worked out , light is awesome, remote and programming are hit and miss.
 
Well on my 3 units were on sync for awhile. I have them slowly getting dimmer then shut off. One would shut off first then about 10 minutes later the 2nd one would go off, then finally the 3rd one about 15 minutes after that. So I pushed a different program on the remote and then the button I programmed. Now they are back on track... FOR NOW... LOL.
New light pro epistar 320 didn't go through its programmed routine again , had to unplug unit and resend program from remote , the remote issue has not been worked out , light is awesome, remote and programming are hit and miss.
 
i started posting in here with sara and you guys when i got my mars hydro lights. everyone is so helpfull to each other so i thought i would share something if anybody could at some point make use of it.

I identified spider mites at a point were my money was a bit low (after buying new MARS lamps :D) And i could not buy anything like neemoil or incetical soap. but i thought its better to do something than nothing. Put on my reading classing and my working boots and sucked all information from every reliable source i could find online.

So just to make this post a bit on topic. here is a picture of my flowering plants growing under my beloved MARS lights ;) yeah they do not look as healthy as they should but still way better then what you well see further down. i was battling a bit of spider mites in the last grow. from the strawberries in my garden and i tested out some homemade treatment. a mix of tobacco tea, a peppermint, aloe vera and rosemary tea and a homemade insecticidal soap made from small parts alcohol and some soap and water of course. i treated them for about 8 days from week 4 mixing the washdowns up with the different teas. gave them a couple of days rest and only clean water wash downs (checking regular with microscope and magnifing glass documenting a massive population decrease in both grown mites nymphs and larva and eggs there was almost nothing left alive) then released predatory mites (like a private militia) at about start of week 6 in flower 14 days after treatment start. It gave me a great result in my opinion really healthy plants at the end taking the treatment in to circumstances. the smoke is smooth and great no foul taste at all. All ingrients in the teas should be washed off after 20 minutes except the peppermint aloe vera rosemary mix. pictures are around week 8 of flowers on these plants.

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Just to see how useful the different teas was, i took my small motherplant and the last two seedlings i was vegging when i found the spider mites. These plants got a treatment with the teas for about six days at the same time as the rest then i put them back in the closet while i finished bloom on the plants shown above.

The spider mite population now had a chance the slowely repopulate a bit until the plants reached 3-4 weeks of flower )so the infestation was about at same state, as the other plants when treatment was started. Then i released the predatory mites misted the room and plants to help them gain ground the first week or so.

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Ok so i took the liberty to at the same time check a new feeding regime with the GHE hard water line someone told me i should try out. well it went as expected it was way to heavy, and of course i have just gone back to my regular regime to not mess to much with them. But look aside from that nute burn.
The pale leafs from mite damage is way worse on these two then the last run. so yeah i guess its better to do something than nothing :) but i don't worry these plants will be fine but not at all great. Not everything is bad i can make some fine bubble hash. And the 500 predatory mites are holding them at bay. but still way more mites here at end of week 6 and 5 then on the last run. i have removed so much damaged leafs from these to compared to the last run.



Well the result spoke quite clear to me. some people had told me that al the different wash downs would stress the plant at that stage. But the plants i only used water and pretetory mites on are looking way more stressed and damaged from not being treated. so the teas worked for me as hoped. The tobacco tea i think is good for damaging soft bodied larvas and young nymphs while the soap and alcohol mixed with water helped washing of those grown up mites and eggs. the smell of the peppermint and rosemary is actually really nice and plesant to the nose. i looked around the internet and some people spoke about spider mites hate the smell of it. so an organic teargas sort to say. the aloe vera is put in this foliar spray to add some Salicylic acid it help a wound heal it will also help the plant bounce back. biobizz actually made an aloe vera additive to their line of products.

I KNOW THE PICTURE RESOLUTION STINKS SORRY. will try to get slightly better shots tomorrow when its not the dark period.

:Namaste:
 
Thanks Klovneposen, you couldn't have posted this at a better time, now the battle begins.

Karma is a give and take thing so happy to help :D :circle-of-love: MARS family connected :icon_cool

i have some more accurate recipes somewere i can pm you if you need it? somewere in my 1.2gb of grow journals and other good useful stuff :geek:
 
i started posting in here with sara and you guys when i got my mars hydro lights. everyone is so helpfull to each other so i thought i would share something if anybody could at some point make use of it.

I identified spider mites at a point were my money was a bit low (after buying new MARS lamps :D) And i could not buy anything like neemoil or incetical soap. but i thought its better to do something than nothing. Put on my reading classing and my working boots and sucked all information from every reliable source i could find online.

So just to make this post a bit on topic. here is a picture of my flowering plants growing under my beloved MARS lights ;) yeah they do not look as healthy as they should but still way better then what you well see further down. i was battling a bit of spider mites in the last grow. from the strawberries in my garden and i tested out some homemade treatment. a mix of tobacco tea, a peppermint, aloe vera and rosemary tea and a homemade insecticidal soap made from small parts alcohol and some soap and water of course. i treated them for about 8 days from week 4 mixing the washdowns up with the different teas. gave them a couple of days rest and only clean water wash downs (checking regular with microscope and magnifing glass documenting a massive population decrease in both grown mites nymphs and larva and eggs there was almost nothing left alive) then released predatory mites (like a private militia) at about start of week 6 in flower 14 days after treatment start. It gave me a great result in my opinion really healthy plants at the end taking the treatment in to circumstances. the smoke is smooth and great no foul taste at all. All ingrients in the teas should be washed off after 20 minutes except the peppermint aloe vera rosemary mix. pictures are around week 8 of flowers on these plants.

20151016_110546.jpg
20151018_154057.jpg


Just to see how useful the different teas was, i took my small motherplant and the last two seedlings i was vegging when i found the spider mites. These plants got a treatment with the teas for about six days at the same time as the rest then i put them back in the closet while i finished bloom on the plants shown above.

The spider mite population now had a chance the slowely repopulate a bit until the plants reached 3-4 weeks of flower )so the infestation was about at same state, as the other plants when treatment was started. Then i released the predatory mites misted the room and plants to help them gain ground the first week or so.

20151129_215938.jpg


Ok so i took the liberty to at the same time check a new feeding regime with the GHE hard water line someone told me i should try out. well it went as expected it was way to heavy, and of course i have just gone back to my regular regime to not mess to much with them. But look aside from that nute burn.
The pale leafs from mite damage is way worse on these two then the last run. so yeah i guess its better to do something than nothing :) but i don't worry these plants will be fine but not at all great. Not everything is bad i can make some fine bubble hash. And the 500 predatory mites are holding them at bay. but still way more mites here at end of week 6 and 5 then on the last run. i have removed so much damaged leafs from these to compared to the last run.



Well the result spoke quite clear to me. some people had told me that al the different wash downs would stress the plant at that stage. But the plants i only used water and pretetory mites on are looking way more stressed and damaged from not being treated. so the teas worked for me as hoped. The tobacco tea i think is good for damaging soft bodied larvas and young nymphs while the soap and alcohol mixed with water helped washing of those grown up mites and eggs. the smell of the peppermint and rosemary is actually really nice and plesant to the nose. i looked around the internet and some people spoke about spider mites hate the smell of it. so an organic teargas sort to say. the aloe vera is put in this foliar spray to add some Salicylic acid it help a wound heal it will also help the plant bounce back. biobizz actually made an aloe vera additive to their line of products.

I KNOW THE PICTURE RESOLUTION STINKS SORRY. will try to get slightly better shots tomorrow when its not the dark period.

:Namaste:

I used predatory mites 2 summers ago & disaster anyway , this year lady bugs added new ones everyy two weeks not a mite anywhere in fact no bugs but the little birds lol
 
is that new light coming out without the remote & internal processor I want a on/off switch only model
 
So I have made my mind up and am saying screw it and just getting the Mars ll 1200 just to make sure I have plenty of coverage. I think it is more than enough for 4 nice ladies.
 
I used predatory mites 2 summers ago & disaster anyway , this year lady bugs added new ones everyy two weeks not a mite anywhere in fact no bugs but the little birds lol

jep they wont solely get rid of the problem thats for sure, but nice you had a good experience with the lady bugs many say thay don't like the mites so much. i will try them some day if i get in trouble again.

Actually now i come to think about it predatory mites also favor moist conditions so they are not the best solution to put out in a blooming situation when taking bud rot and mildew and such into the equation. but the point of the hole thing was the teas anyways :) they did the job to an A+ IMO
 
So I have made my mind up and am saying screw it and just getting the Mars ll 1200 just to make sure I have plenty of coverage. I think it is more than enough for 4 nice ladies.

HELL YEAH :cheertwo: screw it man you well damn deserve that light, spoil your self for a change and marry upcoming Christmas. :)
 
yeah them teas work But yer smokin' that what you apply is a general rulz thingy

the lady birds are just a bother when they migrate , i'd have spot infections of mites & they'd clear in days
the lady birds will eat any bug around
Oh yeah I had rot issues tryin to keep the pred mites happy it was a lose/lose grow even bubble hash was lousy
 
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