Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy - CMH - Modular Scrog - OC+

Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Here is a link to a thread on aphids, sorry to say they might be tougher than the gnats I had. You can see what Dr Mcnugget tried to get rid of them.

War Room - Operation: Root Aphid

Dr.McNugget's LED Coco/Perlite Medicine Garden

Thanks again for the links T. I just got home and scoped the situation, I see less bugs crawling around the top of the coco than yesterday. Also, a bunch have fallen from the pot down to my overflow containers -- they are fighting to stay afloat :slide:

I see no bugs on the leaves so they must be root aphids, though they are darker in color than Dr. McNugget's were. We'll see how the DE works, it's all I've got for the next few days.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

I think one of the links has a homemade recipe for veg oil, water, and soap. Might give you a head start to plug the hole and flood the plant for 30 minutes.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

No Root aphids and fungus gnats are different. I've heard the DE helps prevent fungus Gnats from entering your soil and kills em as they try to leave, but the aphids don't leave.

This is from Dr. McNuggets journal, and makes me question wtf my bugs are! I noticed these things when my ladies went under the CMH right after the transplant into coco. I swear it was if they were emerging from the coco, up to the light..they would crawl onto the pot and eventually fall..I watched a bunch do that last night, and apparently they continued to do it today as they'res a bunch swimming down below.

Edit: Maybe those guys just didn't find the roots as the roots are still small and localized.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Bugs!!!!!! I think they are flea beetles, please take a look and give me any feedback you may have on the little buggers. They have 6 legs and antennae. I was pissed when I found em, they are all over and I didn't even notice when mixing up the coco.

004_phixr.jpg

005_phixr.jpg


Kinda hard to see cus they are small! Best shots I could get and I took lots, haha. I immediately went out and bought some Diatomaceous Earth and sprinkled it all over the top of the coco. Hopefully that will help, I dunno..did not want to deal with bugs.

:peace:
:lot-o-toke:
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Damn you're good Tmac! +reps for sure.

And I just read some other journal that said the EcoSmart killed their plants, lol!

Should I just toss these? Fuck!!!! I need to really figure out if these came from the coco or they were on the clones I bought.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Thanks for the reps! BTW Dr Mcnugget took his picture from a stock photo of aphids. Probably could not get a good picture.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

I would get a plastic bag and make up a bucket of soapy stuff, set the plant pot and all in the bag fill it up with the soapy stuff and tie the bag up around the stem. Drowned the sucker for an hour or so. Then flush well.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

I would get a plastic bag and make up a bucket of soapy stuff, set the plant pot and all in the bag fill it up with the soapy stuff and tie the bag up around the stem. Drowned the sucker for an hour or so. Then flush well.

Ok just checked the coco tub I had mixed up previously, and no bugs..
Went back into my grow room and checked each individual overflow container..bunch in each of the headbands dish and 1 in the BB Kush's.

Sooo..I guess they came from the Headband clones. When I transplanted I agitated them and some surfaced for w/e reason? Pissed off, seeds are looking better and better.

I'm gonna head to HD real quick and grab that ecosmart stuff and try that first. In a diluted solution it should be ok for the plant, I hope!
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Sorry to hear about the bugs, but I did a little research to see if I could help find a way to beat these little suckers. I hope you find one of these useful. Here is what I found:

How to Kill Root Aphid Ants

Overview
According to Texas A&M University, aphid ants are pear shaped and only reach between .06 to .14 inch in size. They can be almost any color and have pierce-sucking mouth parts. Root aphid ants use their mouth parts to pierce the roots of the plants, sucking and draining the plants of nutrients. Root aphids are difficult to eliminate, and it is best to begin methods to kill them as soon as they are spotted.

Step 1
Mix one packet of nematodes with a gallon of water. Pour the nematodes in the soil where your root aphids are living. Nematodes are microscopic worms that live in the soil where your root aphid ants are hiding. They are natural predators and will kill the aphids for you. Best of all, nematodes are safe to use around pets and children.

Step 2
Mix a pyrethrum-based pesticide with an aphicide, based on the instructions on the product label. The Texas Agricultural Extension Service suggests using these two ingredients together to attack an aphid infestation. Do this if the nematodes are not getting rid of the root aphids quickly enough.

Step 3
Spray the pesticide on the lower part of the infected plants and on the top of the soil.

Step 4
Repeat once each week until the root aphid ants are eradicated.

Step 5

Spray your plants with insecticidal soap once per week to keep any new root aphid ants from discovering and feasting on your plants.

Ask Ed? By Ed Rosenthal

How can I eliminate or at least vastly inhibit aphid colonization? They are colonizing at roots on rockwool cubes exposed to the atmosphere.
Erich,
Guerneville, California

Root aphids colonize and suck juices from roots in many mediums including horticultural pebbles, rockwool and planting mixes. They are persistent, so it requires some discipline to eliminate them. There are several organic products that can be used without affecting the plant, the buds, or the safety of the buds for later human consumption. The first is organic pyrethrum. This is a natural insecticide gathered from a chrysanthemum-type flower. There are several brands of liquid concentrate. If pyrethrum liquid is not available at your local nursery or garden shop you can order it on the internet.

Botanigard is an insecticide that is composed of a living fungus, beauveria bassiana. This fungus seeks out aphids and infects them, causing death. Then it releases spores waiting for more victims. It also works to control whiteflies and thrips. You can order it at many garden stores or through garden websites on the internet.

Neem oil and citrus oil have also been used to kill aphids, but they sometimes affect the roots. Test them on a sample plant before using either of them in the garden.

The aphids should be treated every other day with a minimum of six treatments. Rotate the insecticides. Botanigard can be combined with pyrethrum. The neem and citrus oils can be mixed with each other as well as pyrethrum. The idea is to totally eliminate the pests.

If the plants are growing in a hydroponic system, rather than mixing the treatment in the reservoir, make a special batch of water. Turn off the hydroponic system and water the plants using a watering can. Let the insecticide water stay in the root area for at least an hour before turning the hydroponic unit back on.

Once the aphids are gone, it is difficult for them to reinfect. They were probably introduced to your garden by a new element such as a clone or infected planting mix.

HOW TO FIGHT OFF ROOT APHIDS.pdf said:
Root Aphid Info

Root aphids colonize and suck juices from roots in many mediums including rockwool, “grow rocks”, coco, and soil. If plants appear to wilt, to have stunted growth, or have unhealthily coloured foliage and lose leaves prematurely, and the normal problems (pH, over-watering, nutrient levels, etc.) are not responsible, then suspect root aphids. Root aphids are voracious eaters, and are known to
be persistent, so it requires some discipline to eliminate them. Some experts suggest treatment every other day, for a minimum of six treatments. Root Aphids are small light green or off-white oval-like creatures with or without wings, which live on the roots of plants. Just like their counterparts above ground, they feed by sucking sap, but from roots instead of stems or leaves. There are several species of Phemphigus (root aphids), and unfortunately, when they are feeding in the soil there are few, if any, winged adults around to warn you. Many times root aphids will apear with or without wings, but in either case will not fly. Once a problem has been identified with the plants, the first thing growers will notice on the infected root system is the white wax that looks like snow-flocking covering the infected spot. The affected roots often split. Root aphids tend to build up populations at the edge of rootballs. Female aphids give live birth to nymphs, and a clustering of aphids builds up on concentrated areas of the root system. Small populations are not a problem; however, when populations become high, the plants are reduced in vigor.

Azatrol:
After ingesting Azatrol an insect can’t feed. They feel full all the time. The insects cannot shed their skin to molt, and they can’t form a pupae. Ultimately the insects end up paralyzed and they die. See other ---Info Sheet--- on Azatrol/Patrol for more information. Azatrol Application Rates: Start with 1-2 gallons of Reverse Osmosis (purified) water and add Azatrol (1-2 oz. for every 20 gallons in the reservoir.) Mix it well inside the bucket, and then add the concentrated solution to the reservoir. Mix into your reservoir. Example: In a 20 gallon reservoir one would mix 1-2 oz. of Azatrol in a separate container of 1-2 gallons of water and then add that concentrate into the reservoir. Mix well. Use every week in hydro or soil (1-2 oz.to 20 gallons) and then after control is established, maybe every other week as a preventative. We recommend using with Patrol for an even more lethal combination.
In the reservoir Azatrol may raise the ppms by 100-200 ppms but Azatrol is all OMRI organic stuff and it is not a fertilizer, so it’s not that big of a deal if the ppms are raised. Every garden is different so monitor your plants and adjust if necessary.

Green light Tree and Shrub Systemic:
Green Light Systemic uses a nicotine derivative to control aphids. It is called imidacloprid and it works. It should be used as a systemic feeding to plants over time. Ideally start using before population is too Large.

GreenLight Tree and Shrub Systemic Application Rates:
Apply 1 - 3 tsp./ Gal. Soak the roots.

Bonide Systemic:
This is the harshest stuff that we have found. It will kill larvae, root aphids, and just about anything else in the medium. Make sure you apply, then FLUSH 3-5 hours after application. Apply to one plant first, then apply to rest of garden. Systemic killer Application Rates: Mix 1oz. per 10 Gallons of solution or 1/2 oz. per 5 Gal. After application, make sure to FLUSH 4-5 hours later. Repeat as necessary.

Nematodes:
These microscopic worms are pretty awesome. They only effect soft-bellied insects like fungus gnat larvae (no animals - so don’t worry!) Nematodes get sucked up into the guts of the larvae, and begin to colonize and multiply and multiply and multiply until they finally burst open the stomach of the larvae (dealing it out a very nasty death) and releasing more nematode colonies into the medium in the process.

Nematode Application Rates:
Apply 1 Million (1 packet) Nematodes per each “grow light” in your grow space. Each packet of nematodes is dropped and mixed into a 1 Gallon container of water (pH as normal) then hand applied to each plant. Then remove sponge and toss into reservoir.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Thanks everyone for the information and positive thoughts. :)

So I bought that Ecosmart product at HD, was $5.99. Got home and mixed up some water, first go around I mixed in 2tsp per gallon. Flushed each plant with that. Still saw some aphids crawling around the top of the coco and Headband 1 so I made up some more water, this time I just dumped in a bunch of the Ecosmart. Plugged the hole on both Headbands and filled em up, let em sit there for about 20min.

After that I still saw a couple bugs on Headband 1 so I just sprayed the whole top layer of coco with the product..the aphids died. No clue what's going on around the roots, but I was glad to watch the fuckers squirm and die at the surface.

After doin this lastnight I have determined the aphids came from at least one of the Headbands, if not both. I do not think they have got to the AlienDawg or BlackBerry yet.

Going to continue to treat and monitor them. If I still have aphids after a week I'm going to pull them, it's still early so I'd rather yank em now than in a few weeks of flowering.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Dont ya just hate bugs! Seems a few have had trouble with clones. You should quarentine from now on, or treat for bugs just in case. :goodluck:
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Dont ya just hate bugs! Seems a few have had trouble with clones. You should quarentine from now on, or treat for bugs just in case. :goodluck:

Ya I was lazy, hoping the dispensaries were getting good stuff. But you just never know, I'll be treating for bugs from now on. :high-five:
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Dont ya just hate bugs! Seems a few have had trouble with clones. You should quarentine from now on, or treat for bugs just in case. :goodluck:

Ya I was lazy, hoping the dispensaries were getting good stuff. But you just never know, I'll be treating for bugs from now on. :high-five:

I'm going to avoid that by starting all my stuff from seed, then keeping my own clone repo. Bugs suck.
 
Re: Marley's Continual Grow - Hempy, CMH, Modular Scrog, OC+

Zombo that is great most of the time.... but say you walk in to a friends house and he says, "here you can have this fantastic ____ clone"(put in your top strain that you always have wanted) ..... do you walk away or say "Thanks man" ?

I cant get clones where we are, so it is seed to clone for us.
 
Back
Top Bottom