Magnus8's Coco Coir Big Bud & Pineapple Express, First Grow Ever! Grow Journal

Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Sub'd!

I'll enjoy the journey.


~Gotta grow it to know it~

Welcome, VexGrows! Glad to see you come aboard. Hope you enjoy your stay. Feel free to chime in whenever you want.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Very, very nice pics. You know, I don't think I'll ever tire of seeing well grown plants and the outcomes of those grows. Tell me, in the pic where they're all hanging to dry, how many ounces was that, and how many plants? Also, how many ounces in those jars, and was that one grow? And if so, how many plants?

I'm trying to figure out how much to expect from my 4 little angels that I've got growing of devil's weed in my closet. Wow! I've never seen so much weed in one place as in those jars of yours. Seriously, I never have. I'm salivating. You think I'm exaggerating. I"m not. I'm actually salivating right now. Especially after carrying groceries to the truck and from the truck into the house. Not to mention after carrying 9 jugs of 5 gallons of water each from the store to the truck and from the truck into the house last night. My back is just killing me. So you wondering if I"m exaggerating about salivating? Nope. I'm not.

Seriously, though, Kush. Please tell me how much those yields were, please. And if anyone else has pics of weed grown, I'd love to see them and to know how much it all adds up to.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

That amount there is the jar is 10 ounces. It came from 8 plants potted in 5 gallon geopots with coco. Vegged for 4-5 weeks

This is a previous grow, which yielded the 10 ounces. This was still about 3 weeks prior to harvest. Unfortunately I don't have any pics of them finished except with me and my arms wrapped around them smiling like an idiot, which I will not share lol.

These were not topped, only supercropped and defoliate

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This was my first grow, yielded 8 ounces. Grown in soil, only flowered for 8 weeks, was supposed to go 10. At that point I couldn't wait any longer lol, I have patience now.

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Here are pics of my current grow, currently at week 5 of flower. You can see that yields have now dramatically improved. This is a 20 plant setup in a sea of green, vegged for 1 month and each plant was topped twice. Placed under scrog once flipped to 12/12.

Hoping to yield 1lb, expecting about 12-14 oz.

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I've got an appointment for shots tomorrow in Edmonton, so I'll be leaving home about 8:00 a.m. Might not get any pics of the girls up tomorrow morning, as a result. Depending on how I feel, I probably won't put any up when I get home tomorrow evening, either. So it looks like the next update on my demented little darlings will happen in two days. But think of the growth that can happen over 2 nights...

Hope all is well with everyone. Getting so much support from everyone on 420magazine that I'm kinda overwhelmed, actually. Thrilled, to be exact. Feeling like I should've planted more seeds this grow around. Damn.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey do you wear LED glasses at all? Just a tip.. if u don't have em, buy em! Leds will ruin your eyes very quickly if you spend a lot of time in the grow room without the proper glasses. The method 7 sunglasses are perfect for the job, you can see the plant in its true color but most importantly it protects your eyes.

I found a pair online for $20 bucks off of Amazon. They actually work and ease your eyes substantially cheers!

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

URGENT!!

IF ANYONE SEES THIS TONIGHT, CAN YOU PLEASE DROP ME A QUICK NOTE.

I just did my last check on my demented little girls, and one of my Big Buds has developed, since this morning, some discoloured leaf tips. It's too small and I don't have a macro lens, so I cannot really take a pic of it, but I'll try to describe it.

It is on two leafs. The topmost leaf and the one directly underneath it, not the bottommost leafs. The edges of the tips of the leafs are discoloured a light yellow -- and just since this afternoon (or at least I didn't notice it when I checked on them then). At least just since this morning. All along the serrated part of the leaf on the topmost leaf, and one spot on the leaf underneath.

I'm thinking I had the light too close. Does this sound right? Light burn? In my anxiety and panic, I quickly brought the light up to 34 inches from the tops of the plants.

Or is it something else, entirely?

And will it go away if I've caught it quickly enough, or will it damage my little girl irrepairably?
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I'm thinking that, without the mylar, the light was okay before. But after installing the mylar last night, since it intensifies the light so much, maybe the light was then too close. Does this sound possible?
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

hi
Could you please take a new pic? but yes if I remember correctly on the 1st set of leaves?

Hi AngryBird, Glad to see you're weighing in on this.

They're in the dark right now, and I'm not sure I'll have time to take a pic in the morning before having to leave for the day. I have an appointment in Edmonton (a 2 hour drive) tomorrow morning for shots for my back (I have appointments every Wednesday morning for shots in Edmonton).

The discolouration is on the top leaf and the one underneath it. They currently have 3 sets of leaves, so the discolouration is on the 3rd leaf and the 2nd leaf -- not the first leafs.

My regular camera that I usually take pics with doesn't have a macro lens and the discolouration is still so small that you cannot see it with a regular lens I don't think. I've just run out to the truck and brought in my cell and I'm charging it up right now. It was sitting out there in -33 degree Celsius weather; you can imagine that the battery is deader than a mangled mouse. I will TRY to get pics uploaded before I leave in the morning, using the cell. It might be able to show the discolouration.

Someone suggested nutrient burn, but I thought that nutrient burn showed up first on the bottommost leafs -- not the topmost. And I thought that light burn showed up on the topmost leafs -- not the bottommost ones. That's why I thought it was likely light burn. Does this sound right to you, AngryBirds?

Last time I checked, just before lights out, the discolouration was still too small to be curling any which way. And also, remember that the discolouration came on very, very suddenly -- not slowly at all, if that helps.

I don't know if I have anything else to add, except that Kush had mentioned that my lights were too close before this all happened. But I thought they were doing okay and that my light was maybe not very strong because I'd bought a cheapo light from China. I thought that because it didn't LOOK that strong that maybe it wasn't strong at all. But maybe I was wrong and the light is as strong as any other 600w LED from anywhere in the world, no matter how much I had paid.

I should have listened to Kush right from the start. He obviously knows more than I do. You all do. I just thought that I had a bumm light that didn't push out the lumens like others of it's supposed kind.

Gawd knows, I've been wrong before!
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Okay, took her out of the dark and snapped a pic with my phone. Blurry, but you can still see the discolouration on the two leafs.

So whadda y'all think?

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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

I'll be checking this thread from all along my trip, so if anyone has suggestions, please feel free to chime in:thumb:
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hi
Sorry for being lazy, but what soil are you using? Could be a nute burn.

And give hugs to wife and yourself for doing this trip I back read the other day and read about it
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hi
Sorry for being lazy, but what soil are you using? Could be a nute burn.

And give hugs to wife and yourself for doing this trip I back read the other day and read about it

Hi AngryBird,

I'm growing in a coco/perlite mix. Didn't know any better when I was doing my research and saw a video where the guy said this was the best way to grow. All the advantages of hydro without the problems of soil.

I don't think it's nute burn. I stopped in at my favourite store today before my appointment and the nice lady, whose opinion I trust very much since she's been growing for 20 years now, said it sounded like light burn.

I'm happy to report that, though the discolouration hasn't lessened at all, it hasn't advanced any, either. And it hasn't happened on any of the other plants. Rather, all four are still growing strong and peacefully. I'll have my daily pics up tomorrow morning and everyone'll see how well they're doing, especially compared to where they were last week. Today is day 16 since they poked their little green heads up (for the Pineapple Express; the Big Buds both sprouted a day later, so today is day 15 for them, really) and though they might be a little behind other 16-day olds, I couldn't be happier.

AngryBird, I was reading the journal of your first grow. How sad, what happened. I really felt for you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you growing them for medicinal purposes for your hubby or something? I could be mixing that part of the story up with someone else, though. Regardless, how sad. Do you have other grows of yours you could recommend I take a look at where the results were more positive for you? I'd really like to check out a grow of yours that had beautiful, bountiful endings, a plethora of positives, a cacophony of coughings. You get the picture.

Anyway, the storm coming back from the doctor's office was horrendous. The wind was clocking in at 53 km/hr, and the snow was drifting in one white, opaque sheet across the highway for 2 hours. Couldn't see our lane, couldn't see the other guy's lane, couldn't see shit. The speed limit was 110 km/hr, but no one was doing more than 90 the whole way home. No one passed us, and we passed no one. No one was willing to try to go by anyone no matter how slowly they were driving. Truly, it was harrowing.

On a difficult note, the doctor was "aggressive" with the needles today (his word, not mine), and so he told me I'd feel a "bit more pain than usual after our treatments." Yeah, right. I can feel the sonsabitches already in my back. I'll have to take a couple of T4s just to be able to nap, my back is hurting so badly right now. I truly cannot wait for my harvest, though I'm kinda saddened when I realized that I was likely to get only about 7.5 or 8 ounces at the very, very most out of this grow (and that's pushing the scale). I should have grown more seeds, since I even have the seeds to grow. But I was trying to save some for the next grow. But now I'm afraid that I'll run out before my second harvest is in. I'm really going to have to get that 1000w light in here soon if I'm ever going to be able to set up my perpetual harvest like I want to.

Hey! On a great note: My tent came in today! Picked it up from where UPS left it. Haven't taken it out of the box yet. Will do that later tonight. The room isn't ready yet for the tent to be set up. I've got to take down one 8 foot folding table and store it somewhere, and move the 6 foot kitchen table I've been using in there when I used to use the room for making soap (another story for another day; I'll tell you about it if anyone asks) out of the way. I'm going to keep the kitchen table in there as a desk/working table and set up my huge shelving unit in there, too. Damn, that small trailer bedroom is going to be PACKED with shit!

Anyway, I'm exhausted. From the trip. From the storm. From the shots. From the day. Going to sign off and head for a nap.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Yes you will want to keep those lights at 36" away from the tops. Even if it's a cheap Chinese light, the expensive ones are made in china too lol. You're going to get the same light spectrum in most cases, the cheap products just fail quicker and have more issues long term.

For a 600w LED light you want this setup
Seedling/clones: 36"
Veg: 24-30"
Flower: 18-24"

Your 1000w LED should be higher than those listed as well, by about 6".

You can play with it as they grow. if you see light burn raise it up. If you see the plant stem stretching then you know the light has to go down some. it's finding that "sweet spot" with the lights you have. it's a process I'm still trying to figure out, but I'm getting there.

Btw, when looking for signs of burn you will see the very tips of the leaves burn off. It doesn't really affect the sides of the leaves or any part on top, unless it's an extreme case. Typically it's just a small looking burn on the end of the leaf tip.

with light burn you will see it on any part of the top leaf, its more of a bleached look. They can also curl inwards from heat stress, kinda like they're folding up.


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Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

Hey Kush, Thanks so much for the info. I really appreciate it.

I think my babies are just coming out of the seedling stage, despite being 16 days old. They were a bit stunted at first, probably because of my heat issue (only 69 degrees before putting the space heater in the closet). I think that made them even more vulnerable to the light burn problem, but I sure am glad that I caught it so quickly.

I had a nice chat with the woman from the grow store today. Stopped in there before my doctor appointment. She agreed with you all that it is probably light burn, and I trust her opinion since she's always given me great advice before. Not that I've known her long. Only since beginning on this carousel around the beginning of December.

Unfortunately, it's not just contained to the leaf tip. As you can see from the pic, it has affected the sides of the leaf as well. I still think it is light burn, though. If it were a problem with nutes, then the problem would have continued since I haven't altered the nutrition regime at all since this first happened. And like I said, it hasn't continued nor has it advanced to the other plants, one of which is even smaller and weaker than the affected one.

On another note, I begin working on Finding Max again tomorrow. I'm quite excited to be back in the book and working on it. I'm going to be working like a regular work schedule, about 6 - 4 at least 5 days per week. Got an email from my editor saying that she'll have the first edits on the first couple of chapters to me later this week or by the beginning of next week. That'll give me something to do besides obsessively checking on my demented little girls.

Posted something on my facebook page tonight about medical marijuana and my back, and how I'm looking forward to getting my prescription for the drug. An old aunt posted back something like, "have you tried back exercises?" I was floored. Of course I've done physio during the past 15 years. Does she think I'm completely stupid? I've done it several times, and I'm slated to begin physio again next week. Physio doesn't cure back pain. It helps strengthen the muscles to help prevent further damage to the back. But it doesn't take away the kind of pain I experience. Though I was pissed, I wrote a kind response saying that, yes I've done physio and no it doesn't cure my back pain. But I am still pissed that there are so many people out there who are such idiots when it comes to using marijuana for medicinal purposes.

I guess that the unwilling will never learn.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

HI :hugs:
Some people will always think marijuana is for "pothead bums" users. I was one of them, until my husband's cousin was diagnosed and treated for leukemia. We thought he was going to be fine, until one day booom it was back. It was around the same time I was pregnant with my little one and about to give birth. The last few weeks I spent searching for help talking to medical centers in different countries, searching on the web , found Rick Simpson and then 420mag and SweetSue ( I love her).
Only realizing I had to grow my own, and at that time, it was impossible to start and finish in time.

He passed away and I decided I WILL GROW. My hubby needs it too (you are correct) it is the only thing he can use. (long story, I wrote about it in my Nest thread (in the 2nd last page or so)

We had 3 harvests, so I am happy, all though new grow had to be culled. But, I will be back soon with new babies :Love:

I am glad you found out it it was light burn, usually it is one of the 2. So, keep it growing and I would love reading your book when it is done.

Making soap is fun. Do you use any aroma/essential oils? ( see home remedies) I am sooo into those things.
Hope you feel better today.
 
Re: Magnus8's - Coco Coir - Big Bud & Pineapple Express - First Grow Ever! - Grow Jou

just a random thought. while I was lurking. I have seen in a few rare cases these stronger lights being too close actually cause dwarfism. But in most cases the reports say the potency is equal or better despite low yields. ok glad you got to the Dr and all that. Hope all is growing well. nice to bump into AngryBird What a help you can be! Magnus This ill birdy can tell you a lot! --:puffing out!
 
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