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Well finally got my new hps bulbs in...I ordered sunlite brand and seem to be brighter and don't really have that orangish color more clear but idk...says it's 2100k 150w hps bulb...but got 2 of em for like $18...didn't really see a better brand for 150w but it's ok
 
Question...I know that the plants like it to cool down when they're sleeping but what would be too much of a temp drop? Like if you hover mid 80s with lights on what would be the coolest you'd want with lights off? If that makes sense
 
I've always heard not to drop the temp more then 10 degrees from day to night as more may stress some plants.
 
10 degrees is about as much drop as you really want it can be stressful to drop down really cold and then raise up in a lot of heat during the day this can cause a lot of stress
 
I've communicated with several nutrient companies' reps over the years. Seems like they all offered to send something except for Fox Farm, who invited me to fly across the country, visit some expo or other, and ask for a sample there. And then, when I replied that... my schedule (lol) would not allow me to attend it this year, suggested that I open a hydroponics store, because they give them samples. Which would have been nice, since there wasn't one within 125 miles at the time, lol, but...

When General Hydroponics announced their General Organics line, I could have gotten an entire "Go Box," or something like that, whatever it was, it was supposed to be enough to do a complete small grow so that the grower could actually evaluate the product line. And, at the time, I was quite interested in the concept of using something that was both a GH product (this being before the Scotts Miracle-Gro monster bought the company) and "organic," which I had practically no experience with. But I would have had to pay the shipping - which was understandable - and I just couldn't afford it. Eating was a challenge at the time, as it was a worse year than usual and I hadn't even recovered from the previous "no work Winter" yet.

I contacted some random company I found via a web search once. I think the name was Rich Earth. It must have been a small company - or maybe I just got lucky? - because it turned out that my contact was the boss. The person stated that they didn't have samples, or sample packs. But they'd be happy to throw one of everything that they had into a big box and ship it right out. A lot of their products seemed to be for mainstream farmers with acreage. So, as far as samples went, they'd have probably been enough for a couple of years of indoor organic soil maintenance/refreshing. I never tried them, because a good friend was heading out west somewhere to a tiny little piece of land he'd bought over the Internet to go permanently off-grid, and I gave him the whole box. I haven't heard from him since, but I hope he's doing well and got full use out of those... "samples."

I've received "odds and ends," too. General Hydroponics sent me, IIRC, a little bottle of Floralicious Plus(?), some vegan "sweetener," and a tiny bottle of something else. DNF (Dutch Nutrient Formula) sent me 8-ounce bottles of Grow A, Grow B, Bloom A, Bloom B, and Fulvic Acid. I haven't touched anything except for the Fulvic Acid, which I've used as a general supplement here and there. I'll probably try all of the DNF samples if I ever have enough "extra" money to order a replacement pH probe for my Milwaukee pH56 meter.

I've noticed that some samples come with a little hole punched through the lids. IDK what's up with that, but it's annoying to learn about it by shaking the bottle :icon_roll .

Do you know exactly what you're getting yet?

Well finally got my new hps bulbs in...I ordered sunlite brand and seem to be brighter and don't really have that orangish color more clear but idk...says it's 2100k 150w hps bulb...but got 2 of em for like $18...didn't really see a better brand for 150w but it's ok

The choices for low-wattage HPS bulbs are pretty limited. It's not helped by the fact that they appear to come in two socket sizes for that wattage (mogul and medium). The Lumatek branded 400-watt HPS bulb I've got has a listed color temperature of 2,100k, so you might have gotten some pretty good bulbs - and at nine dollars a piece, that seems like a bargain. I hope they perform well for you!

A light bulb is a light bulb they all grow plants

Err... I once tried to grow cannabis with a mercury vapor lamp.

Once.

I think the massive dosage of UV-A and UV-C killed the plants quicker than the heat did, lol.

BtW, I just checked via a web search - it was definitely Rich Earth that sent me the giant box of samples. Looks like it's still "organic." They even have things for one's animals to consume.
 
I know exactly what I am getting because I am the one that picked everything out it was a lot more than I expected them to send me for samples
 
What I was saying about the HPS lights is that one HPS light is not much different than another HPS light

I agree, for the most part. I've seen differences in production from different bulbs, but those differences seemed to be relatively minor (and not always attributable to the price of a bulb, either, surprisingly).

Now I have read that some brands of bulb last longer than others when driven by an electronic ballast. I haven't had the opportunity to do any testing in that regard, but I've read enough that I tend to believe it's a valid concern.
 
I know exactly what I am getting because I am the one that picked everything out it was a lot more than I expected them to send me for samples

Wait... They let you make up your own sample pack? Wow! That's... wow, just wow. Nice. That seems like a company that knows the value of customer loyalty. I hope the products perform well for you.
 
Over the years I have tried a lot of different HPS bulbs from different brands one thing I did learn was for the money difference it's not worth it at one point I was paying $100 for a thousand watt HPS and it was not any different then the cheaper ones but what pissed me off was after talking to both of the people that I bought them from it is the exact same company that makes them asking different prices and putting different brands on them but all out of the same Factory
 
They know my wife's family name so as soon as I mentioned the company they just asked what I was looking for and I told them and they asked me if there was anything else so I just got most of their newer products

But on the other hand all I use is Botanicare products and I have been a customer for the last 7 years
 
This is a story of a survivor. Three days ago I snipped this little guy off of a White Widow plant that has been flowering now for about 2 weeks. It was time to thin out the bottom of the plant. With all the humidity and heat here the plants are prime candidates for fungus and molds. I am always on again off again dealing with white powdery mildew. Anyway when I snipped this off I took a small stick and put a hole into another plant soil and just stuck her in the hole. This thing has survived two days in 90 degree plus temperatures and scalding sunlight. No rooting powder just a little extra PH'd water. I am amazed at the resilience of these plants.

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Speakin of little plant that could, my sick wounded girl still managed to give me some love. Still dont know what strain but smelled like I was trimmin a lime.
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Good thing you kept it going, lol.
 
Dont forget the twig, clipped in flower root powdered and left unwatered out on the deck for weeks, nursed with a hydrophonic experiment for a month, now sitting with the maters in a soup of chicken shit and mater nutes.
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