LKABudMan Back In Deep Water: 4 Purple Haze Clones In RDWC

Date: 2/22/22 - Day 10
Strain - Purple Haze photo clones x 4
Light height and reading - 100w LED @ 100% 14 Inches away - 12k LUX
Medium - 8" Netpots with clay balls in 5g buckets (DWC)
Nutrients - Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect M+G+B, Voodoo Juice, Pirhana, B-52, Hydroguard, z7
Water - Carbon-filtered well water (100ppm)
Grow space - 32x32x60 grow tent
Extraction - 4" Mars Hydro variable speed fan, on low
6" Small oscillating fan
Weekly Temperatures

The exhaust fan in this tent is on low to try to keep the heat and humidity in the tent. Even with that it only gets up to the low 70s at the highest. The humidity is in the low 60s, though, putting the VPD in the .8 - 1.0 range. While I would like to get it 5f warmer in the tent the VPD is right where I want it for early veg. I need to think of a way to add a couple of degrees in the tent during the day; maybe a light bulb?

Well, it looks like I can forget about planting replacement seeds for now :) All of the clones are growing new roots and new shoots! Even the two that had black tips have grown past that and have new green tips. I wonder, though, if I made a mistake when I potted the clones. I had some nice long roots on three of the clones so when I put them in the netpot I draped the taproot through the bottom and into the water. My thinking is that this would help the plants start drinking right away. However, that may have come at the cost of more lateral roots. While the three clones I did this to are all growing longer/bigger roots they are not growing a lot of lateral roots. The one clone that did not have roots through the bottom of the netpot (Jordy) has grown a LOT of lateral roots and a lot more roots in general. In the future I probably will not try to put the roots through the bottom of the netpot when planting clones. I really like having the lateral roots, even if the clone needs to struggle for a couple of days.





Right now I have these girls on very light nutrients, about 250ppm. Below is what I have in the bucket for early veg.

AN pH Perfect Micro+Grow+Bloom - Base nutrients
AN Pirhana - Beneficial fungi (numerous - mycelium) & bacteria (Bacillus mucilaginous)
AN Voodoo Juice – Beneficial bacteria - Bacillus subtilus, Bacillus pumilus, Bacillus licheniformis, and Bacillus polymyxa
AN B-52 - Kelp derivitive with Vitamin B1 & humic acid
AN Bud Candy - This is mostly sugar :) I use a little to feed the beneficial bacteria until the roots\plant can
Botanicare Hydroguard - Beneficial bacteria - Bacillus amyloliquefaciens
Flying Skull z7 - 2 part enzymatic cleaner

Yea, it's a lot of stuff. Most of it is beneficial fungi/bacteria (bennies). The idea is to establish a colony of beneficial bacteria in you plant's root zone so that the bad stuff (pythium, algea, etc) can never take hold. This is in place of a 'sterile' reservoir which uses peroxide or bleach to kill everything. You can use one or the other but not both, as the sterile will kill the bennies. I prefer using bennies for the additional benefits to the root zone. Of course keeping your water temperatures under 70f and well oxygenated is important too ;)

The mother for these clones was named Jenny, in honor of Jimmy Hendrix and the song. So we have decided to get cute and name all of these girls starting with a 'J'. Alright, let's meet the girls!

Jolt was the tallest clone with the longest root. Aptly named, she is shooting up and outgrowing her sisters. She has shot two new nodes since she was put in the bucket and may be looking at a topping in the next day or two.



Jordy (Also known as Jordy Jorts) was the shortest clone with the least roots. She was the only one plants without roots sticking through the bucket when planted. I think because of this she has the most lateral roots. She has a few messed up leaves, I think where the moisture pooled on the leaves in the cloner. All of her fresh leaves look good, though.



Jazz is one of the clones that had 'rotted' at the tip. The tip of the plant was black, again from moisture pooling on the plant in the cloner. She is growing past it, though. I am not sure if she will end up self-topping or what but there is new green growth on top!



Joan is the other clone with a black top. She is growing past it but now as much as the others. She looks like she may have more lateral growth than the others. I wonder if the messed up tip will cause more lateral growth?



Now that everyone is growing I'm going to need to add more nutes. I plan to take it up to 500ppm this week and then see how the plants like it. Once they really start drinking it's easier to see how much nutes they are using, which helps drive what to give them. Right now it is hard to see any difference in the water level or composition from day-to-day so it's really a guess. However, I had them at 500ppm in the cloner so I want to take it back up to there at least. Soon they will really start drinking and it will be easier to see what they need. Sometime this week I am going to need to hand away all of the other clones on the floor too :)





Happy Growing.
 
Date: 2/22/22 - Day 10
Strain - Purple Haze photo clones x 4
Light height and reading - 100w LED @ 100% 14 Inches away - 12k LUX
Medium - 8" Netpots with clay balls in 5g buckets (DWC)
Nutrients - Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect M+G+B, Voodoo Juice, Pirhana, B-52, Hydroguard, z7
Water - Carbon-filtered well water (100ppm)
Grow space - 32x32x60 grow tent
Extraction - 4" Mars Hydro variable speed fan, on low
6" Small oscillating fan
Weekly Temperatures

The exhaust fan in this tent is on low to try to keep the heat and humidity in the tent. Even with that it only gets up to the low 70s at the highest. The humidity is in the low 60s, though, putting the VPD in the .8 - 1.0 range. While I would like to get it 5f warmer in the tent the VPD is right where I want it for early veg. I need to think of a way to add a couple of degrees in the tent during the day; maybe a light bulb?

Well, it looks like I can forget about planting replacement seeds for now :) All of the clones are growing new roots and new shoots! Even the two that had black tips have grown past that and have new green tips. I wonder, though, if I made a mistake when I potted the clones. I had some nice long roots on three of the clones so when I put them in the netpot I draped the taproot through the bottom and into the water. My thinking is that this would help the plants start drinking right away. However, that may have come at the cost of more lateral roots. While the three clones I did this to are all growing longer/bigger roots they are not growing a lot of lateral roots. The one clone that did not have roots through the bottom of the netpot (Jordy) has grown a LOT of lateral roots and a lot more roots in general. In the future I probably will not try to put the roots through the bottom of the netpot when planting clones. I really like having the lateral roots, even if the clone needs to struggle for a couple of days.





Right now I have these girls on very light nutrients, about 250ppm. Below is what I have in the bucket for early veg.

AN pH Perfect Micro+Grow+Bloom - Base nutrients
AN Pirhana - Beneficial fungi (numerous - mycelium) & bacteria (Bacillus mucilaginous)
AN Voodoo Juice – Beneficial bacteria - Bacillus subtilus, Bacillus pumilus, Bacillus licheniformis, and Bacillus polymyxa
AN B-52 - Kelp derivitive with Vitamin B1 & humic acid
AN Bud Candy - This is mostly sugar :) I use a little to feed the beneficial bacteria until the roots\plant can
Botanicare Hydroguard - Beneficial bacteria - Bacillus amyloliquefaciens
Flying Skull z7 - 2 part enzymatic cleaner

Yea, it's a lot of stuff. Most of it is beneficial fungi/bacteria (bennies). The idea is to establish a colony of beneficial bacteria in you plant's root zone so that the bad stuff (pythium, algea, etc) can never take hold. This is in place of a 'sterile' reservoir which uses peroxide or bleach to kill everything. You can use one or the other but not both, as the sterile will kill the bennies. I prefer using bennies for the additional benefits to the root zone. Of course keeping your water temperatures under 70f and well oxygenated is important too ;)

The mother for these clones was named Jenny, in honor of Jimmy Hendrix and the song. So we have decided to get cute and name all of these girls starting with a 'J'. Alright, let's meet the girls!

Jolt was the tallest clone with the longest root. Aptly named, she is shooting up and outgrowing her sisters. She has shot two new nodes since she was put in the bucket and may be looking at a topping in the next day or two.



Jordy (Also known as Jordy Jorts) was the shortest clone with the least roots. She was the only one plants without roots sticking through the bucket when planted. I think because of this she has the most lateral roots. She has a few messed up leaves, I think where the moisture pooled on the leaves in the cloner. All of her fresh leaves look good, though.



Jazz is one of the clones that had 'rotted' at the tip. The tip of the plant was black, again from moisture pooling on the plant in the cloner. She is growing past it, though. I am not sure if she will end up self-topping or what but there is new green growth on top!



Joan is the other clone with a black top. She is growing past it but now as much as the others. She looks like she may have more lateral growth than the others. I wonder if the messed up tip will cause more lateral growth?



Now that everyone is growing I'm going to need to add more nutes. I plan to take it up to 500ppm this week and then see how the plants like it. Once they really start drinking it's easier to see how much nutes they are using, which helps drive what to give them. Right now it is hard to see any difference in the water level or composition from day-to-day so it's really a guess. However, I had them at 500ppm in the cloner so I want to take it back up to there at least. Soon they will really start drinking and it will be easier to see what they need. Sometime this week I am going to need to hand away all of the other clones on the floor too :)





Happy Growing.
Dam u got a setup bro
 
Dam u got a setup bro
Yeah I am starting to get comfortable down in my basement ;) My son was talking last night about setting up ANOTHER tent in the basement and trying his hand at an LOS grow. Of course I would need to run more power down there first. And the grow room gets a bit bigger:D

Now if I can just get rid of all of those clones on the floor of the veg tent...
 
Yeah I am starting to get comfortable down in my basement ;) My son was talking last night about setting up ANOTHER tent in the basement and trying his hand at an LOS grow. Of course I would need to run more power down there first. And the grow room gets a bit bigger:D

Now if I can just get rid of all of those clones on the floor of the veg tent...
I thought about that I really need another 4x4 tent. Bad. 2x2 just can't put one or two plants in it
 
I thought about that I really need another 4x4 tent. Bad. 2x2 just can't put one or two plants in it
When I needed a place to dry my first harvest I found a 2x4x5 tent on sale for about $50. I already have an extra exhaust fan and filter, so all he really needs is the light (and soil, etc).
 
When I needed a place to dry my first harvest I found a 2x4x5 tent on sale for about $50. I already have an extra exhaust fan and filter, so all he really needs is the light (and soil, etc).
I like just walk thru that grow room u got ur sht all set up. It's nice bro. Really is
 
Date: 2/24/22 - Day 12 in buckets
Strain - Purple Haze photo clones x 4
Light height and reading - 100w LED @ 100% 14 Inches away - 12k LUX
Medium - 8" Netpots with clay balls in 5g buckets (DWC)
Nutrients - Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect M+G+B, Voodoo Juice, Pirhana, B-52, Hydroguard, z7
Water - Carbon-filtered well water (100ppm)
Grow space - 32x32x60 grow tent
Extraction - 4" Mars Hydro variable speed fan, on low
6" oscillating fans x 2
Weekly Temperatures

Yesterday I mixed up 2 liters of full-strength nutrients (1300ppm) with 1ml pH down. 500ml of this went in each bucket. It got them up to around 400ppm and brought the pH down to 5.5-5.7. I will watch them for the next couple of days but it looks like they are going to tear through those nutes.


I am trying to figure out what to do with these four girls. They are in the 32x32x60 tent for 6-8 weeks. I can't really spread them out because they only have 16x16 each, max. I guess that means I will need to use the height. I can get the light up to within 6" of the top of the tent. Buckets are 15" tall. If I want to keep them 12" from the light the plants can only be 27". About 2 feet. Can I keep these girls to 27x16 with 6-8 weeks in DWC? I have no idea, but I am hoping it is closer to 6 weeks than 8 ;)

I am learning that clones grow differently than seedlings. For starters, seedlings grow symmetrical nodes; by that I mean that the branches are directly across from each other. On clones the nodes are staggered. It also seems that the clones are growing much more lateral growth than seedlings. I believe it is because the clones are sexually mature, but all of the buds are fully developed. These girls are getting thick at the same time they get taller.


So the real question is how do I train them? Do I top or FIM them? Right now my plan is to just let them grow. They're already getting bushy and I don't want to encourage more lateral growth. Two of them look to have already self-topped anyways. Besides, my first two grows the plants never got much above 24". I'm looking forward to seeing how full I can get the 48x48x80 tent (knock on wood).

The roots still look ugly when I pull them out of the bucket.


Luckily they clean up real easy. A couple of sprays and the clay dust and nutrient residue wash right off. After that the roots are looking really nice. A few are already down to the bottom of the bucket.










Oh, and I got rid of MOST of the spare clones. I'd like to think they enjoyed hanging out in the bottom of the tent while they were here ;)

Happy Growing.
 
I copped buss fare and charged the battery on my Hover-round scooter, made it here before the national anthem. Took the blue pill and plugged into the matrix, I'm here til the credits roll. Hope you don't mind the smell, got some gasoline on my hands at the Shell Station earlier...
 
I copped buss fare and charged the battery on my Hover-round scooter, made it here before the national anthem. Took the blue pill and plugged into the matrix, I'm here til the credits roll. Hope you don't mind the smell, got some gasoline on my hands at the Shell Station earlier...
Thanks for stopping by @RedskinnedRhino if you don't mind I'll do the rolling ;):passitleft:
 
I wouldn't step on your toes sir, you get the #1 controller on Madden, this is your DoJo and you're a very handsome man. My Js get pregnant, caucasian guppys, gotta belly like Honey Boo Boo's mom. Nope, not Bonafide. A Bill Belichick deflate-gate football, not regulation.
 
super clean grow.

that's an expensive nute line up you've got rolling. you could probably cut the voodoo juice. it won't take anything away, but it probably isn't bringing you much to the table either.

impressive no matter what side of the coin you wanna look at. keep going.
 
@RedskinnedRhino I was just trying to keep the gasoline off the joint ;) I'm sure you roll a fine J. Since you live in the area we may need to find out some day:rollit::passitleft:
 
I roll in the dinosaur juice daily, i patented Paco 1million and 87octane. The stink lets you know it's been a productive afternoon. That water playset you got going is a thing I'd be tickled to see, you twist my titty hard enough, I'll wriggle out from under this toolbox and shake a few hands. You seem like a suave and dapper fellow, a hometown hero with cool toys to play with, i got beer money and a half bag of jalapeno pistachios to share. Let's be pals.
 
super clean grow.

that's an expensive nute line up you've got rolling. you could probably cut the voodoo juice. it won't take anything away, but it probably isn't bringing you much to the table either.

impressive no matter what side of the coin you wanna look at. keep going.
Thanks @bluter I have all of the AN stuff left over from my first grow. When it is gone I will probably move to another nute line. I just haven't figured out what that is yet ;)
 
A new space with LOS sounds fun to add.! I like your son already!
He already takes care of the aerogarden and keeps us in fresh herbs. And he has helped me with all of my grows. Always nice to know you are passing on the important life lessons ;)
 
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