Lexort's Kaneh Bosm CFL Garden

[Nicholas Flamel]

I understand overthinking Lex. I do it all the time too. Im just now starting to chill out. I used to keep a strict schedule and feed/water evry three days. Now i dont feed until the pots gets really light or the leaves start to droop a bit (no fungus gnats this time around either) The first time i saw the tips of the leaves were burnt i flush like 5 gallons thru all the plants and was totally freaked out. Now i look at a little nute burn as a good thing that lets me know what they can take. Im finally understanding the whole more is less theory too. They look much better this grow then they did the first grow when i was messing with the All the time. Your girls look good to man. Your a good dad and showing them much love. Plus you got the new light too. Are you giving any bloom supplements?

 

[lexort420]

I understand overthinking Lex. I do it all the time too. Im just now starting to chill out. I used to keep a strict schedule and feed/water evry three days. Now i dont feed until the pots gets really light or the leaves start to droop a bit (no fungus gnats this time around either) The first time i saw the tips of the leaves were burnt i flush like 5 gallons thru all the plants and was totally freaked out. Now i look at a little nute burn as a good thing that lets me know what they can take. Im finally understanding the whole more is less theory too. They look much better this grow then they did the first grow when i was messing with the All the time. Your girls look good to man. Your a good dad and showing them much love. Plus you got the new light too. Are you giving any bloom supplements?

Ya know I have chilled on alot of things since i started growing i just get caught up in the new problems that have arisen. Plus before this P deficiency (most likely due to cold temps recently) i thought I was starting to get the veg girls back on their feet from the underfeeding recently. As for bloom supplements that would be a no lol i haven't used anything outside of GH flora series 3 part and calimagic. I appreciate your reassurance that the girls seem about right, just been pretty freaked at how purple some of the leaves have gotten new experience for me lol.

 

[Tead]

Ya know I keep trying to tell myself that they will chunk up the last two weeks but i just keep second guessing it due to the new light, phosphorus deficiency, and low temps, all my reading says those last two can reduce yield so ya. Plus haven't grown SOG style before exactly lol. Im just worry wort and i over think stuff sometimes lol. Glad you got your temps up and ya smart thinking taping the light. Thanks for the good luck on the clones i might need it lol.

I hate problems late in bloom. I mean, the recognition time can be down because you're plant's pumping hard and doing lots of creative things. Then, correction and recovery have to occur during prime bud development time. Sux.

 

[lexort420]

I hate problems late in bloom. I mean, the recognition time can be down because you're plant's pumping hard and doing lots of creative things. Then, correction and recovery have to occur during prime bud development time. Sux.

Ya I know exactly what you mean! In flowering ya just want to have smooth sailing lol.

 

[lexort420]

On a side note i been looking at seeds and I would like a fresh set of eyes on my current dilemma. If anyone can answer my question please speak up. Ok here goes im interested in sour diesel from crop king and what i want a opinion on is, do you guys think i could do sour diesel SOG style in my space? I want a sativa dominant so bad but with sativa's you can run out of head space quick. If i were to do it i would flower them immediately and I do take kinda small clones compared to alot of tutorials i remember reading way back when lol. So you the people please tell me what you think.

 

[VladimirPutin]

LST is your friend, lexort. Don't fear the weed. Here is my mainlined sativa dominant that is going into first day of 12 12 today.
I'm building a 10 cola powerhouse . It's a weed, it will grow no matter what you do to it (almost)

V

 

[lexort420]

LST is your friend, lexort. Don't fear the weed. Here is my mainlined sativa dominant that is going into first day of 12 12 today.
I'm building a 10 cola powerhouse . It's a weed, it will grow no matter what you do to it (almost)

V

At what height do think that will finish? I guess im trying to get a idea of how much sativas stretch compared to indicas. I only ever grew one sativa dominant strain it was bagseed and it hermied on me so i never bothered to grow it again obviously lol so im not well versed in sativas growth.

 

[VladimirPutin]

I hope it will stay under 24" but I'll wait and see.

The best trick I know is to keep the light as close as possible, without burning it or drying out the RH too much, and LST.

Give it a whirl. You may be tired of indicas and sativa may be what you've been waiting for

V

 

[Castor27]

it really depends how soon you start training on the sativa girls if you keep them low and flip them you won't have as much stretch. you may have to continue to LST them as they flower to make sure they don't get out of control. but as said above LST will be your friend. I'm learning that first hand this go arround. I think I may have done everything I could to train them lol. anyway Im looking for a sativa dominant as well and I ran across Amnisia Kush. by dinafem. it's a kigh yielding sativa dominant kush. cross between Amnisia Haze and OG Kush. this will be my next girl I'll be ordering seeds here soon! it may be just what your looking for as well its from their new genetics and there is not much on the strain other than it being a canibus cup winner. sounds way good to me!

 

[VladimirPutin]

I tell you that trimming after 12/12 is bad news for yield.
Cut as much off as you want, but do it in veg to get best yield.
By week 4 the girls don't want to make any more fans and then you'll be out of luck if something happens...

V

 

[Castor27]

I agree trimming or removing is not ideal in flower but it does have its place. I was more talking about bending and moving branches arround. maybe in a scrog setup. or you can always just do the supercrop rout like I did! preferably before the flip to 12/12. these plants are strong and able to deal with stress in flower as long as it is not overdone. you would prefer not to have any stress as mentioned but if the plant stretches a little more than you would like in flower. if you do a light supercrop or bend the branch down slightly I don't think you will necessarily make her hermie or stunt the growth too bad. if you get crazy I'm sure they will but just slight hight ajustmentnts I don't think you have much to wory about.

 

[lexort420]

I hope it will stay under 24" but I'll wait and see.

The best trick I know is to keep the light as close as possible, without burning it or drying out the RH too much, and LST.

Give it a whirl. You may be tired of indicas and sativa may be what you've been waiting for

V

Your right you are absolutely right vlad! I can make this work, and you are correct about me being a bit burnt out with indicas they are nice don't get me wrong but I do prefer sativa buds. Im going to just order the sour D I'm not too bad at adapting on my feet. Just gotta take the plunge and stop putting in so much thought lol

 

[lexort420]

it really depends how soon you start training on the sativa girls if you keep them low and flip them you won't have as much stretch. you may have to continue to LST them as they flower to make sure they don't get out of control. but as said above LST will be your friend. I'm learning that first hand this go arround. I think I may have done everything I could to train them lol. anyway Im looking for a sativa dominant as well and I ran across Amnisia Kush. by dinafem. it's a kigh yielding sativa dominant kush. cross between Amnisia Haze and OG Kush. this will be my next girl I'll be ordering seeds here soon! it may be just what your looking for as well its from their new genetics and there is not much on the strain other than it being a canibus cup winner. sounds way good to me!

Ya see i was just so set on sticking with the SOG style of growing but really when I stop my brain and think about it a SOG might not be the best idea for a sativa since they are lanky compared to indica so it might not be the best idea. Im just gonna throw caution to the wind and just do it. I know how to lst decent enough so I can make it work.

 

[lexort420]

I tell you that trimming after 12/12 is bad news for yield.
Cut as much off as you want, but do it in veg to get best yield.
By week 4 the girls don't want to make any more fans and then you'll be out of luck if something happens...

V

True to a certain extent. No offense meant because I do agree i just know I have seen defoliation work in a sog set up but ya I don't like to do any cutting in flower myself. And just because I like to be thorough here would be the link to the journal in which defol seems to work even though it is not my preference (just purely because I don't like to add any unnecessary stress to my flowering girls lol) Come SOG with Me - 112 Plant - 2 Liter - Hempy SOG

 

[Weaselcracker]

I know I'm always flogging the Mama Thai, but I do think you'd find it manageable. Especially when you are using clones and can flower smaller. A pure sativa, it actually hardly stretches in flowering and is about the same as some of the indica dominant strains I've grown. Seedsman breeds it and I think Herbies has it. I do scrog it, but lst would work as well. From what little sativa experience I've had, some of them do stretch like crazy. The Thai stick did that, the Malawi less so. I think anything is tameable if you used a scrog though.
Another interesting thing- out of the three last harvests I did, Blueberry, PChunk, and Mama Thai, which I weighed to check grow progress, the Mama Thai yielded the most, at 4.2 ounces. All three plants were healthy and grew close to their potential IMO. The sativas don't like defol as much as the indicas, but I prune both of them during flowering for various reasons. Just removing the undergrowth below the screen sometimes accounts for half the foliage on the plant, since I don't put the screen on until I start flowering. It does slow them down a bit for a while, especially if I do it too soon in flowering, but I don't find it causes real problems. Later in flowering the plants tend to do their own defol, especially the sativas.

 

[lexort420]

I know I'm always flogging the Mama Thai, but I do think you'd find it manageable. Especially when you are using clones and can flower smaller. A pure sativa, it actually hardly stretches in flowering and is about the same as some of the indica dominant strains I've grown. Seedsman breeds it and I think Herbies has it. I do scrog it, but lst would work as well. From what little sativa experience I've had, some of them do stretch like crazy. The Thai stick did that, the Malawi less so. I think anything is tameable if you used a scrog though.
Another interesting thing- out of the three last harvests I did, Blueberry, PChunk, and Mama Thai, which I weighed to check grow progress, the Mama Thai yielded the most, at 4.2 ounces. All three plants were healthy and grew close to their potential IMO. The sativas don't like defol as much as the indicas, but I prune both of them during flowering for various reasons. Just removing the undergrowth below the screen sometimes accounts for half the foliage on the plant, since I don't put the screen on until I start flowering. It does slow them down a bit for a while, especially if I do it too soon in flowering, but I don't find it causes real problems. Later in flowering the plants tend to do their own defol, especially the sativas.

What's the percentage for the mama thai, i mean like is 70% sativa or what? Here is the link to the strain im looking at its from a sponsor so I hope it is ok to put the link here lol.
Sour Diesel – Feminized Seeds
It sounds like what I am looking for and it does say it works for sog. I kinda have to stick with crop kings due to unfavorable payment methods elsewhere so my hands are tied there.

 

[Weaselcracker]

The strain looks good. I don't know anything about it personally. I'd use google and search 420 for journals and info on it, adding the term 420 in the search. The 420 search engine confuses me.

The Mama Thai is pure (100%) sativa. A landrace sativa picked in Thailand and bred with itself to pick the best and shortest flowering pheno. I ordered mine through Seedsman directly and paid with bitcoin.
I got the bitcoin by sending money to a friend in the city who put cash in a bitcoin atm and then transferred it to me. It was a bit of a hassle but once I had the bitcoin it was awesomely easy. They also take cash and bank transfers and such. I think most seedbanks do.

 

[lexort420]

Ya I'll have to google that strain cause i too have a hard time with the sites search thing lol. Ya I would probably order elsewhere if it wouldn't be such a hassle cause i can't do a bank transfer since i never bothered getting a bank account and i don'thave nor want a credit card and there aren't any western unions left in my area but crop king does take money gram's and i do have a Wally Fart here so i can do that. O I wanted to add that I am a bit surprised the mama thai is a pure sativa i didn't think there were too many pure strains left (shows what i know tho lol). I guess im off to do some research. I will probably do a bit of a update soonish need to charge my phone first lol

 

[Weaselcracker]

I looked at the specs you posted on your grow light but didn't see the brand name. Where did you get it?

 

[lexort420]

If your talking about the led panel i got that from mars hydro one of the sites sponsors
If you are talking about the led strips that i have wrapping around my flowering box i got those on amazon and the brand was called Lvjing