LED Grow Test

[baldalicious]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Genuine grow journals like this can only help to disprove the nonsense that these "companies" drop shipping lights try to con us with.

Personally i dont understand why anyone would buy a "Hydro Grow LED" or a "ProSource" when you can just go direct and get it for a fraction of the cost they are charging.
The only difference will be the label.... they all come out of the same factories, same PCBs, same cases, same LEDs.

Its a shame its like this, but it is the reality if you choose to believe it or not, when i first came here i was suckered by the sly marketing these "companies" try to use, (mainly HGL), but after some research i found out its all a bunch of horse shit.

Do yourselves a favor and just go direct, google "led grow light china" and save yourself some cash, plenty of REAL companies to choose from.

Some of the better ones i found:

Go fer it, my man.

And when your girls finish up spindly and leggy, admittedly admirable in a supermodel at a Paris runway show but not at all good when harvesting bud, you'll understand. No one's stopping you. Buy direct from China. As you say, all LED grow lights are made in the same factory using the same stuff. Put yer money where yer mouth is and go fer it...

When the rest of us are harvesting decent bud in decent amounts and yer dating a Chinese supermodel, you'll understand why.

 

[crazy horse]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

i think these led companys should say their 126w or 180w can compete with 250w hps not 400w, surley that will still convince ppl its a good product and worth while buying one!

 

[mendoman]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Genuine grow journals like this can only help to disprove the nonsense that these "companies" drop shipping lights try to con us with.

Personally i dont understand why anyone would buy a "Hydro Grow LED" or a "ProSource" when you can just go direct and get it for a fraction of the cost they are charging.
The only difference will be the label.... they all come out of the same factories, same PCBs, same cases, same LEDs.

Its a shame its like this, but it is the reality if you choose to believe it or not, when i first came here i was suckered by the sly marketing these "companies" try to use, (mainly HGL), but after some research i found out its all a bunch of horse shit.

Do yourselves a favor and just go direct, google "led grow light china" and save yourself some cash, plenty of REAL companies to choose from.

Some of the better ones i found:

I totally appreciate the links, but how in the heck do you order from these companies?

 

[Bolivar]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

I totally appreciate the links, but how in the heck do you order from these companies?

Chat online with a sales rep. You have to do it during Shanghai business hours, though.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

started my flush last night. i am going to flush them for 1.5 weeks to get that cleaner smoke. last time i didn't flush and hated the taste and harshness of the smoke. i already have a good amount of amber trics on the Blue dreams. the hindus might go a little longer.

 

[gonnagro]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Well this has got to go down as one of the biggest business blunders of 2009. Cammie, your company didn't check to see if the 180W would outgrow you before you offered your light for this test? And the boasting and criticism of the other LED companies both here, and in the other forums! Yet now your changing your lights more to match theirs? I was 4 days away from ordering the HGL 126W, just waiting for the old stock to be exhausted so I'd be sure to get the new technology. If I had purchased your light right about now I'd be feeling pretty duped as I'm sure others are too. Sure your light can grow bud, but so can a 90W UFO. You said it would beat a light that was half again more expensive. OK, enough on that.

Now I have whole different perspective after following Irishboy's journal. Instead of buying either light I instead bought the new 2010 six spectrum 90W UFO. Only one for now as I can always buy another and still not spend as much as the HGL light. I have 3 plants vegging under a dual band 90W UFO and will journal the result once I switch the lights and change to 12/12. Won't be a comparison, but should still be interesting nonetheless. Until then, great job Irishboy.

 

[Scooby_Snacks]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Anyone who enjoyed this journal should make sure to go vote for irishboy for MOM. Voting closes on 1/11.

420 Magazine's Member of the Month Contest - December 2009

 

[Bionic]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Anyone who enjoyed this journal should make sure to go vote for irishboy for MOM. Voting closes on 1/11.

420 Magazine's Member of the Month Contest - December 2009

Done and done.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

thank you guys for the vote on MOTM, it really means allot to me. glade you enjoyed this thread. my next led grow is going to be a good one, because one ill have more lights and two i can grow how i like to grow and not worry about keeping it fair for the test.

 

[Cephas]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Well apparently the HGL light was supposed to hit all the spectrums, but it doesnt appear to have worked out too well in this journal does it?

So either the spectrums theory is horse shit and not nearly as important as intensity and wattage, or the light doesnt really have the spectrums the sales people say/believe it has.

And im really torn between the 2.

As for bsled, they are one of the larger factorys i came across, could probably provide a variety of spectrums to suit your needs, they are the cheaper option, the other link to growlight.cn have better lights, better service too, but more expensive.

As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.
Oh and did i mention never to trust a LED grow light sales person?

I talked to someone named Sophie at LED Grow Light for Hydroponics,Horticulture,Greenhouse,Seeding,Seedling,Farm,Flower Exhibition,Garden,Bonsai,Professional Grow Light Manufacturer from your link. She quoted me $349.70 for their 192w light and $493.00 for their 288w light. It looks like they use a lens angle of 50 degrees and 30 degrees. They said they

"Can do wavelengths: 410nm,450nm,460nm,470nm,580nm,590nm,610nm, 630nm,645nm,660nm. "

Who knows if they actually will produce those wavelengths. At a $1.71 per watt the 288w looks like an amazing deal. What do y'all think? Too good to be true?

The HGL is $3.37 per watt and the Pro Source is $3.88 per watt.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

I talked to someone named Sophie at LED Grow Light for Hydroponics,Horticulture,Greenhouse,Seeding,Seedling,Farm,Flower Exhibition,Garden,Bonsai,Professional Grow Light Manufacturer from your link. She quoted me $349.70 for their 192w light and $493.00 for their 288w light. It looks like they use a lens angle of 50 degrees and 30 degrees. They said they

"Can do wavelengths: 410nm,450nm,460nm,470nm,580nm,590nm,610nm, 630nm,645nm,660nm. "

Who knows if they actually will produce those wavelengths. At a $1.71 per watt the 288w looks like an amazing deal. What do y'all think? Too good to be true?

The HGL is $3.37 per watt and the Pro Source is $3.88 per watt.

one way to find out? you just got to make sure their lights have the right mixture of leds in their lights. if you do get one let me know how they work out? 50 and 30 is real narrow, not to much foot print their. make sure these lights are legit, and you get what u want in the light.

 

[Bolivar]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

I talked to someone named Sophie at LED Grow Light for Hydroponics,Horticulture,Greenhouse,Seeding,Seedling,Farm,Flower Exhibition,Garden,Bonsai,Professional Grow Light Manufacturer from your link. She quoted me $349.70 for their 192w light and $493.00 for their 288w light. It looks like they use a lens angle of 50 degrees and 30 degrees. They said they

"Can do wavelengths: 410nm,450nm,460nm,470nm,580nm,590nm,610nm, 630nm,645nm,660nm. "

Who knows if they actually will produce those wavelengths. At a $1.71 per watt the 288w looks like an amazing deal. What do y'all think? Too good to be true?

The HGL is $3.37 per watt and the Pro Source is $3.88 per watt.

I got a quote from Lisa at the same company (Chevy Light Co. Ltd.) for 4 x 48W lights:

"Regarding the 48w led grow lights ,i attached the parameter for your reference.
Our quotation is as follow:

4 pieces 48w led grow lights (red and blue color):4*USD83=USD332
The shipping fee to Virginia by express door to door service:USD117
Total:USD449"

$117 sounds a little high for shipping, but the item price is OK, considering you can choose the wavelength distribution and lens angle.
Now all someone needs to do is set up a proper (i.e. expensive) grow test for a bunch of different light setups using the same lamp with different distributions and angles, find the right combo, and go into business...

 

[CaveMan2112]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Great thread Irish. I have been looking to upgrade to LEDs for some time now and this has been very informative.

I originally wasn’t planning on becoming a member of this forum or any related ones due to a little paranoia but I felt I have learned enough from you guys that I should join just to throw this out there.

I agree that the 400% markup of LEDs by the two manufacture listed in this thread is killing the potential for it to become the wave of the future and thus lies my question/comment.

I contacted BSLED and about the RS-43 and was quoted $700-$850 depending on the ratio of lights I chose. They stated that Red: Blue: Orange = 7: 1: 1 is the most popular and seems to be inline with what ProSource is using.

BSLED builds lights to your specs so I can get whatever works best. Irish, can confirm this is the right ratio or list the LED wave lengths ProSource are using?

I would appreciate an input from you guys before I drop the cash, but it seems $800ish for a 600w LED is a killer deal.

 

[Bolivar]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Great thread Irish. I have been looking to upgrade to LEDs for some time now and this has been very informative.

I originally wasn't planning on becoming a member of this forum or any related ones due to a little paranoia but I felt I have learned enough from you guys that I should join just to throw this out there.

I agree that the 400% markup of LEDs by the two manufacture listed in this thread is killing the potential for it to become the wave of the future and thus lies my question/comment.

I contacted BSLED and about the RS-43 and was quoted $700-$850 depending on the ratio of lights I chose. They stated that Red: Blue: Orange = 7: 1: 1 is the most popular and seems to be inline with what ProSource is using.

BSLED builds lights to your specs so I can get whatever works best. Irish, can confirm this is the right ratio or list the LED wave lengths ProSource are using?

I would appreciate an input from you guys before I drop the cash, but it seems $800ish for a 600w LED is a killer deal.

I don't think ProSource or HGL list their exact ratios anywhere. Not that I've found, anyway.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Great thread Irish. I have been looking to upgrade to LEDs for some time now and this has been very informative.

I originally wasn't planning on becoming a member of this forum or any related ones due to a little paranoia but I felt I have learned enough from you guys that I should join just to throw this out there.

I agree that the 400% markup of LEDs by the two manufacture listed in this thread is killing the potential for it to become the wave of the future and thus lies my question/comment.

I contacted BSLED and about the RS-43 and was quoted $700-$850 depending on the ratio of lights I chose. They stated that Red: Blue: Orange = 7: 1: 1 is the most popular and seems to be inline with what ProSource is using.

BSLED builds lights to your specs so I can get whatever works best. Irish, can confirm this is the right ratio or list the LED wave lengths ProSource are using?

I would appreciate an input from you guys before I drop the cash, but it seems $800ish for a 600w LED is a killer deal.

sorry bro i dont know what PS uses, and i belive they wont tell a sole for this reason. they have always kept their formula top secret.

 

[tbrad]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Go fer it, my man.

And when your girls finish up spindly and leggy, admittedly admirable in a supermodel at a Paris runway show but not at all good when harvesting bud, you'll understand. No one's stopping you. Buy direct from China. As you say, all LED grow lights are made in the same factory using the same stuff. Put yer money where yer mouth is and go fer it...

When the rest of us are harvesting decent bud in decent amounts and yer dating a Chinese supermodel, you'll understand why.

So where do you think the drop shippers on here operating these so called "companies" get their lights from?
The reality is 95% of LED grow lights on the market are made in the Shenzhen district in China.

The only difference between you placing the order and a drop shipper doing it for you is the final price you will pay.

Infact, bsled is probably the exact factory where the HGL lights come from,
they are the only company ive seen with the identical mould,
they also offer OEM (your own spectrums), the 3 year warranty (we have heard so much about), custom logo and printed label, (might call mine a Detonator) as well as drop shipping (oh cool, i could even start my own company for a $5 domain name and a few hours installing a freeware shopping cart).

The thing is, i was just like you a month ago, i was totally suckered by this stuff, and all this hyperbole these drop shippers spam everywhere.
I was on the verge of buying a HGL, but then i started seeing the same looking lights appearing everywhere, but under different names, different companys.
Check this site out, GrowLEDhydro.com (not related to hydro grow led!)
And theres quite a few others i came across like this, same old story, their lights are the best, they have all the wave lengths blah blah, when in reality its just a drop shipped light from China with the price jacked up to a ridiculous level.

All you have to do is a little research yourself and you will see, the proof is all there, if you want to believe it or not.

 

[tbrad]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

I talked to someone named Sophie at LED Grow Light for Hydroponics,Horticulture,Greenhouse,Seeding,Seedling,Farm,Flower Exhibition,Garden,Bonsai,Professional Grow Light Manufacturer from your link. She quoted me $349.70 for their 192w light and $493.00 for their 288w light. It looks like they use a lens angle of 50 degrees and 30 degrees. They said they

"Can do wavelengths: 410nm,450nm,460nm,470nm,580nm,590nm,610nm, 630nm,645nm,660nm. "

Who knows if they actually will produce those wavelengths. At a $1.71 per watt the 288w looks like an amazing deal. What do y'all think? Too good to be true?

The HGL is $3.37 per watt and the Pro Source is $3.88 per watt.

I think i had the options of 120, 60 and 30, maybe 90 i cant recall, but if its not listed ask, because usually these companys dont list half of what they can offer.
And, it's not too good to be true, it's just the REAL cost of manufacturing a LED light direct without a middleman jacking up the price.

 

[Scooby_Snacks]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

I don't think ProSource or HGL list their exact ratios anywhere. Not that I've found, anyway.

Not sure if they are on the web or not, BUT there is a nice little white sticker on the side of the box my last light came in.

 

[go green]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

Mine had that white sticker too I think scoob. With the specs on it/ What they put in it? etc?

In like Chinese or something

 

[slimm]

re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W

sorry bro i dont know what PS uses, and i belive they wont tell a sole for this reason. they have always kept their formula top secret.

Anyone with one of these lights can open it and look at the part numbers on the individual LEDs to know the "secret formula".