re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W
wow, that really a good comparison there man... great job... LEDs are starting to come around
wow, that really a good comparison there man... great job... LEDs are starting to come around
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michaelkaer
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For my first grow I am using soil since that is what I know about. I raise worms so I can compost all my garden wastes, fallen pears and kitchen scraps. I make organic teas from the castings and use that as my fertilizer. I am using full spectrum mini flood, 50 watts each X3 and 2 CFL bulbs for a total of 176 watts. I am thinking of adding LEDs; what is the best so far?
For my first grow I am using soil since that is what I know about. I raise worms so I can compost all my garden wastes, fallen pears and kitchen scraps. I make organic teas from the castings and use that as my fertilizer. I am using full spectrum mini flood, 50 watts each X3 and 2 CFL bulbs for a total of 176 watts. I am thinking of adding LEDs; what is the best so far?
Tyrone Hamilton
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It seems to me that if the companies developed a switch for veg & Flower so it turns on more blue lights when needed and more red when needed. Seems like that would be ideal.
It seems to me that if the companies developed a switch for veg & Flower so it turns on more blue lights when needed and more red when needed. Seems like that would be ideal.
Scooby_Snacks
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Ah, I had it backwards.
Let's see if HGL does an upgrade program for all of us who listened to HGL about them having the right spectrum and the right ratios. Is it just me of do you also feel like you got a pre-release beta version that your testing for HGL?
Ah, I had it backwards.
Let's see if HGL does an upgrade program for all of us who listened to HGL about them having the right spectrum and the right ratios. Is it just me of do you also feel like you got a pre-release beta version that your testing for HGL?
baldalicious
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Been lurking on this thread for a few days now because it's a grow test between the two lights that are at the top of my list to buy and I go back and forth between them often. Just when I decide on the Penetrator, I start liking the ProSource, but then something about the Penetrator appeals to me... yada, yada. Now I'm back to the ProSource mainly because of the last set of pix posted. At first glance, the plants grown under the Penetrator look bigger but, as I learn more and more about growing, it occurred to me that they also look kinda stretched (not a good thing) while the plants under the ProSource look much more dense and compact and with more bud sites. I'ma noob so I could be wrong. Anyone who knows about these things who could clue me in would be really helpful. I mean, both sets of plants look pretty good but I just can't help thinking that the Penetrator plants don't look quite as productive at this point as the ProSource plants.
Been lurking on this thread for a few days now because it's a grow test between the two lights that are at the top of my list to buy and I go back and forth between them often. Just when I decide on the Penetrator, I start liking the ProSource, but then something about the Penetrator appeals to me... yada, yada. Now I'm back to the ProSource mainly because of the last set of pix posted. At first glance, the plants grown under the Penetrator look bigger but, as I learn more and more about growing, it occurred to me that they also look kinda stretched (not a good thing) while the plants under the ProSource look much more dense and compact and with more bud sites. I'ma noob so I could be wrong. Anyone who knows about these things who could clue me in would be really helpful. I mean, both sets of plants look pretty good but I just can't help thinking that the Penetrator plants don't look quite as productive at this point as the ProSource plants.
Tyrone Hamilton
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Personally, the Haight Solid State looks like the shizat to me... check out setting sun's grow hosted by 420.
On this grow, according to the grower, the ProSource is the one. Why get a light that doesn't do buds as well as the other? Any light can veg.
Been lurking on this thread for a few days now because it's a grow test between the two lights that are at the top of my list to buy and I go back and forth between them often. Just when I decide on the Penetrator, I start liking the ProSource, but then something about the Penetrator appeals to me... yada, yada. Now I'm back to the ProSource mainly because of the last set of pix posted. At first glance, the plants grown under the Penetrator look bigger but, as I learn more and more about growing, it occurred to me that they also look kinda stretched (not a good thing) while the plants under the ProSource look much more dense and compact and with more bud sites. I'ma noob so I could be wrong. Anyone who knows about these things who could clue me in would be really helpful. I mean, both sets of plants look pretty good but I just can't help thinking that the Penetrator plants don't look quite as productive at this point as the ProSource plants.
Personally, the Haight Solid State looks like the shizat to me... check out setting sun's grow hosted by 420.
On this grow, according to the grower, the ProSource is the one. Why get a light that doesn't do buds as well as the other? Any light can veg.
baldalicious
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I've been following that grow too. It's not as far along as this one is and I can't really tell the diff between the Penetrator and Haight yet. Looks like awhile before flipping the switch to flower. Besides, the 800 is listed as unavailable on the Haight site. No telling how long it will be before it's available for purchase. At least I know I can get the ProSource now and have a pretty good idea of what it can do. Still it would be nice to see how well the Haight does in flower. It's the most radical design I've seen yet. I'm also giving a long and hard look at the HID Hut UFO with the adjustable spectrum switch. Very pricey but I like the idea of being able to fine tune a spectrum to my grow situation.
I've been following that grow too. It's not as far along as this one is and I can't really tell the diff between the Penetrator and Haight yet. Looks like awhile before flipping the switch to flower. Besides, the 800 is listed as unavailable on the Haight site. No telling how long it will be before it's available for purchase. At least I know I can get the ProSource now and have a pretty good idea of what it can do. Still it would be nice to see how well the Haight does in flower. It's the most radical design I've seen yet. I'm also giving a long and hard look at the HID Hut UFO with the adjustable spectrum switch. Very pricey but I like the idea of being able to fine tune a spectrum to my grow situation.
Tyrone Hamilton
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Do you have to have a LED for the situation? You couldn't pry my 600HPS away from me, and it's in a closet. You just need a fan. And a filter. And an exterior wall. And the ability to cut it... lol.
I can definitely see the need for these - the prosource looks like it's doing a good job. Height in veg doesn't mean much to me - could be the plant is stretching for light. Root and stem thickness are everything. Plus - vegging is easy, especially with hydro - the grow game is all about the buds. And in that category, the prosource seems to be the winner.
Do you have to have a LED for the situation? You couldn't pry my 600HPS away from me, and it's in a closet. You just need a fan. And a filter. And an exterior wall. And the ability to cut it... lol.
I can definitely see the need for these - the prosource looks like it's doing a good job. Height in veg doesn't mean much to me - could be the plant is stretching for light. Root and stem thickness are everything. Plus - vegging is easy, especially with hydro - the grow game is all about the buds. And in that category, the prosource seems to be the winner.
Scooby_Snacks
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sfhaze has a completed journal (maybe 2) with a HSS light.
There's also another one with results. I forget her exact name but it was MJ with a weird spelling. Maybe in completed journals.
sfhaze has a completed journal (maybe 2) with a HSS light.
There's also another one with results. I forget her exact name but it was MJ with a weird spelling. Maybe in completed journals.
WarBux79
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Cammie is one walking contradiction.
see above statement
see above two statements.... but your 100% correct. The people who bought her first lights were beta testers. Lots of companies have beta testers. The only difference is those companies tell the people who are testing the product that they are testing a beta version.
Cammie is one walking contradiction.
see above statement
see above two statements.... but your 100% correct. The people who bought her first lights were beta testers. Lots of companies have beta testers. The only difference is those companies tell the people who are testing the product that they are testing a beta version.
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W
Genuine grow journals like this can only help to disprove the nonsense that these "companies" drop shipping lights try to con us with.
Personally i dont understand why anyone would buy a "Hydro Grow LED" or a "ProSource" when you can just go direct and get it for a fraction of the cost they are charging.
The only difference will be the label.... they all come out of the same factories, same PCBs, same cases, same LEDs.
Its a shame its like this, but it is the reality if you choose to believe it or not, when i first came here i was suckered by the sly marketing these "companies" try to use, (mainly HGL), but after some research i found out its all a bunch of horse shit.
Do yourselves a favor and just go direct, google "led grow light china" and save yourself some cash, plenty of REAL companies to choose from.
Genuine grow journals like this can only help to disprove the nonsense that these "companies" drop shipping lights try to con us with.
Personally i dont understand why anyone would buy a "Hydro Grow LED" or a "ProSource" when you can just go direct and get it for a fraction of the cost they are charging.
The only difference will be the label.... they all come out of the same factories, same PCBs, same cases, same LEDs.
Its a shame its like this, but it is the reality if you choose to believe it or not, when i first came here i was suckered by the sly marketing these "companies" try to use, (mainly HGL), but after some research i found out its all a bunch of horse shit.
Do yourselves a favor and just go direct, google "led grow light china" and save yourself some cash, plenty of REAL companies to choose from.
Sonzor
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re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W
Still looking good and very informative. On pins and needles here to see how this all plays out. Great job and hope you had a great New Years..
Still looking good and very informative. On pins and needles here to see how this all plays out. Great job and hope you had a great New Years..
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re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W
i was looking at the girls and a thinking this might be done i a week or so. ill look at all the trics real good in a few days.
i was looking at the girls and a thinking this might be done i a week or so. ill look at all the trics real good in a few days.
WarBux79
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Thanks for the URLs. The problem with bsled is they only use 1 red and 1 blue spectrum. It seems the major problem with the LEDs are not hitting all the correct spectrums.
Thanks for the URLs. The problem with bsled is they only use 1 red and 1 blue spectrum. It seems the major problem with the LEDs are not hitting all the correct spectrums.
OldMedUser
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I read some real good stuff about LEDs from one of our trusted sponsors. I believe it was Hydro Grow here on the sponsors page. 420 Magazine - Sponsors
I would just post the url for them but I believe that 420Mag gets a little kick-back for click-thrus.
Check out their Technology page for the nitty-gritty.
I read some real good stuff about LEDs from one of our trusted sponsors. I believe it was Hydro Grow here on the sponsors page. 420 Magazine - Sponsors
I would just post the url for them but I believe that 420Mag gets a little kick-back for click-thrus.
Check out their Technology page for the nitty-gritty.
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ya i already read her page, but had the chance to put her technology to the test with the PS 180w. now she has a 2nd gen light out that uses more red and less white then this one i have.
I read some real good stuff about LEDs from one of our trusted sponsors. I believe it was Hydro Grow here on the sponsors page. 420 Magazine - Sponsors
I would just post the url for them but I believe that 420Mag gets a little kick-back for click-thrus.
Check out their Technology page for the nitty-gritty.
ya i already read her page, but had the chance to put her technology to the test with the PS 180w. now she has a 2nd gen light out that uses more red and less white then this one i have.
re: LED GROW TEST. 126W hydro grow led VS. 180W
Well apparently the HGL light was supposed to hit all the spectrums, but it doesnt appear to have worked out too well in this journal does it?
So either the spectrums theory is horse shit and not nearly as important as intensity and wattage, or the light doesnt really have the spectrums the sales people say/believe it has.
And im really torn between the 2.
As for bsled, they are one of the larger factorys i came across, could probably provide a variety of spectrums to suit your needs, they are the cheaper option, the other link to growlight.cn have better lights, better service too, but more expensive.
As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.
Oh and did i mention never to trust a LED grow light sales person?
Well apparently the HGL light was supposed to hit all the spectrums, but it doesnt appear to have worked out too well in this journal does it?
So either the spectrums theory is horse shit and not nearly as important as intensity and wattage, or the light doesnt really have the spectrums the sales people say/believe it has.
And im really torn between the 2.
As for bsled, they are one of the larger factorys i came across, could probably provide a variety of spectrums to suit your needs, they are the cheaper option, the other link to growlight.cn have better lights, better service too, but more expensive.
As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.
Oh and did i mention never to trust a LED grow light sales person?