LED Grow Light Review

Making them on our own would be great, but as of now we don't have the money for the manufacturing facilities or the workers to run them. Maybe in the future!

When I talk to companies about custom molds and designs, they generally want $100,000. If Stealth can do it for me cheaper, I'd love to explore that option. STEALTH - get in contact with me via PM, and show us your design in the meanwhile ;)
 
dude i just started working with google sketch. IM gonna play around with that.

HGL you dont need to manufacture. You simply need to assemble. SUb out a comany for the metal box. and the led's on a board. the rest you can assemple into the metal box. the box can have the screw holes for everything.

You see where I am going or is that just to many units to assemble? I guess you couls always hire someone to do that for ya to. sure you know some smoker that will do it cheap.
 
HydroGrowLED: Here ya Go! It will need Tweaking for Sure to get all the Dimensions they way you want them! If you really knew who I was this Picture would make LOTS more sense! :)

The Design is Based on overlapping the 30 degree LED's in your 7-1-1 Formula.

The boards with LED's are built in 12" x 1.5" lengths, and simply slide into the Channel in the Extrusion like an ordinary CAR Amplifier board does.

You cut the Extrusion in 1, 2, and 3 Foot lengths. Then you simply make 3 Panels for a 1 foot long Light, 6 for a 2 foot and 9 for a 3 foot! The boards are soldered together or leads go to a central source and then all tied together! Holes drilled behind the Boards in the Extrusion allow AIR to be circulated with a Small Fan on one end!

Putting these units in the Corner of your Grow Box force light out to give a WIDE coverage area with your narrowest/intense 30 Degree LED lenses! They could also be placed horizontally in the upper Corners of the Cabinet! Works similar to the old BOSE 901 Speaker system, but with Light not Sound waves!

The Extrusion would be fairly light and the CHEAPEST part of the Whole DAMN light, once you pay for the "Die" to be Made, Caps on each end made a foot to stand it upright or 2 end Caps just a like with built in Hanging hooks for different Angles! The End Caps will cost more than a 3 foot section of the Extrusion to Machine and make!

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I get the idea! but seems too exspensive man. I think I should draw HGL up somthin in google sketch and have her take it to her local weld shop. I will use thin tin for box and nuts welded in spots to place the led pannel and fan. Also a channel to epoxy the clear covering in place.
 
Stealth -

That's actually the exact kind of design I was going to be implementing for a vertical stick. I have LED bars that are already fabricated that could literally slide right into the slots on the metal pieces you design. I was going to use 6-8 in total and sandwich to two metal "extrusions" together to create a vertical stick. I think it may be in both of our interests to work on this concept and make it a reality. The back of my mind says you're the one who gave me the vertical idea in the first place, but go ahead and send me an email anyways to discuss: sales@hydro-grow-led.com
 
Hey Hydro:

Coming from what I do, Knowledge Base............. you would be better off going down to a HVAC shop and have them FOLD you a piece of Aluminum for your Prototype! That way you could make one and then TEST it out on a Grow before commiting to the "Die" Charge and frist Run of Aluminum!

Testing is the TIME consuming thing for sure! I made that design in 10 minutes! The Slots are made to just slide the boards into place! The Beauty of the EXTRUSION is you can make it fit existing LED boards that may or May not be in existance. If you can find a MASS Produced Board then design to those dimensions! Trust me it will be CHEAPER in the Long run!

Better yet go to Alibre, Inc. - Affordable 3D CAD, CAM, FEA, Rendering, and Document Management Software and get their Software it's free and you can make the design tweaks like you like them, then you can submit the DRAWINGS to industry thru MFG.com another free site! MFG.com will allow you to present the drawing in a BID style, Companies all over the world will bid on your Drawing and send you prices to have it built! Choose the lowest or the one closest to your place of business to keep logistics/transport low!

Here's another Nugget for you (Pun intended) if you teamed up with a few of the Grow Tent Companies you could design an intregrated LED light kit as part of the FRAME in the TENTS. or Add on CLIPS/CLAMPS to hold the Lights in the Corners of the GROW Tents!

Also if you do a EBAY check for Industrial Modular Extrusion or Office Modular Cubicals some make Aluminum Extrusion VERY Similar to what I designed above complete with the Board Slots!

Words of Wisdom! Prove it.............. then SALE IT! Been where you are, and had to live thru the PAIN of watching my product Trashed and Ripped apart in the FORUMS, until the PROOF comes thru! Even then because My Product was so Unique it was still years away from being accepted in the market place! NOW.............After 5 years I'm finally accepted as a legitimate alternative (that exceeds the original in ever aspect) to a Product that is over 60yrs old! Phase shifts in the way people do things takes time, SERIOUS time, and most are just not comfortable outside the HEARD, the MAIN Heard people will not be your CUSTOMERS, although you will pick up some of those along the way.

I'm only trying to help here!


STG
 
Hey Andy:

Thanks! Full of Ideas with my own Company, it's the Venture Capital that's the HARD Part! :) Always been instilled with the Idea that "If I help one... the KARMA will come Back to me" :) Again that design is nothing for what I do normally! The Tents I have seen would need a NEW "Back Bone" structure to Support the Weight of 2 of the Lights I drew as they would be kinda heavy! unless they had a "CNCed" Base/Foot then Height Adjustment would Suffer! Adding the New Structual cost to a Grow Tent would make them MUCH more expensive for sure! Yes everything I design is looked at it from a COST standpoint first!

Honestly I can't remember where those Wave lengths come from on the NET I was researching "Trichome increase" or "Trichome Production" and found it on a couple of Different Souces so I laid it out there! Hell it may still be wrong! :) Getting to be just as much MISS-Information as information on the Internet, and I guess I 'm just as guilty from that statement! Do a Search for those Key words maybe you can back me up on that? would like to KNOW myself! Not to Hard to Add a Couple of those Lights to A Grow To see!

(MY Theroy) ............................................It makes sense if we think about UV-B as a "Frequency WAVE" (which that's all Light is, just like Water and Sound) Use the Speaker Box as an example, it will play when you add frequency, but if you match the Resonate frequency of the Woofer to the Resonate frequency of the cabinet then it produces the most BASS it can! If the UV-B is on a Certain Frequency/wave length as it passes thru the PLANT it Resonates in the Plant and causes the Heat/chemicals to react more where by causing more trichomes! ....................................... (MY Theroy)

STG
 
For manufacturing, use a local contract manufacturer. My company supplies several contract manufacturer's. All you really need to provide them is prints/drawings of your product. They source all the needed supplies and do the assembly. Great for start up businesses as well as large companies that are out of space/capacity. If you would like additional info of leads PM me.
 
Hey Screwnuts33:

I agree to a certain Point, but if your boot strapping it, much of the "Assembly" cost can be avoided if you MFG yourself from Raw Components! In the beginning sales will be slow, with retailing them gives most profit, this allows the Profits to be put back into the business or Squirrled away for that "Contractor's" first run! The upfront costs of the first run from one of these contractor's can be cost prohibitive to most small time business's!

Start Small, Make Prototype, Prove it works, Retail some lights, use profits to build first run not Smoke, use proof for smoke! LOL! :)

STG
 
StealthtireGr said:
Hey Screwnuts33:

I agree to a certain Point, but if your boot strapping it, much of the "Assembly" cost can be avoided if you MFG yourself from Raw Components! In the beginning sales will be slow, with retailing them gives most profit, this allows the Profits to be put back into the business or Squirrled away for that "Contractor's" first run! The upfront costs of the first run from one of these contractor's can be cost prohibitive to most small time business's!

Start Small, Make Prototype, Prove it works, Retail some lights, use profits to build first run not Smoke, use proof for smoke! LOL! :)

STG
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Stealth,
I agree. This works if you have everything designed ready for production but no equipment/skills to do it. More efficient than using a sheet metal fab shop to make cases, electronics place to load the boards, and then you put it together. The contract shops we work with do it all in house. Sheet metal, CNC machining, Screw Machining, Paint/Powder coating, circuitboards, etc. They can even handle the packaging.
 
Hey guys!

I haven't started growing yet, but I am assembling the pieces to build a growing-wardrobe.

For a confined space such as a 175x120x50 wardrobe, would a single 90w (multiband) LED UFO (like the Sunshine-Systems) be enough, or should I supplement with something else? I'm going to divide the wardrobe into veg-room and flowering-room, so it'll be about half for flowering, which is where I intend to have the LED.

Anyway, great thread.
 
Ok check it out, I am currently growing some Bubbleicious ( Can't get enough of that stuff!). I have grown this strain before, and these seeds were actually produced from a grow last year.
I am using a 400w 6500k MH as I have in the past. This time I have decided to supplement the MH with four 13.8W Blue led panels. I know the panels are considered to be the most inefficient form of led. But!!!! these are the stoutest, greenest, healthiest 4 week olds I have ever produced. I am not convinced that the led's are the only factor that could result in this development. It could be that this seed was produced in the same soil mix and environment as it is in now I.E. adaptivity. or it could be that adding a total of 54 watts to the grow regardless of light type could be the cause. OR, it could be that there is something very positive being added by these led's
I wiil post again in a few weeks after I compare some milestone pics with previous grows.
 
Ranxirox said:
Ok check it out, I am currently growing some Bubbleicious ( Can't get enough of that stuff!). I have grown this strain before, and these seeds were actually produced from a grow last year.
I am using a 400w 6500k MH as I have in the past. This time I have decided to supplement the MH with four 13.8W Blue led panels. I know the panels are considered to be the most inefficient form of led. But!!!! these are the stoutest, greenest, healthiest 4 week olds I have ever produced. I am not convinced that the led's are the only factor that could result in this development. It could be that this seed was produced in the same soil mix and environment as it is in now I.E. adaptivity. or it could be that adding a total of 54 watts to the grow regardless of light type could be the cause. OR, it could be that there is something very positive being added by these led's
I wiil post again in a few weeks after I compare some milestone pics with previous grows.
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I and some others are thinking about using small LED lights for supplemental lighting like you're doing. Your experience so far is very encouraging. Keep us posted.
 
No prob Bolivar. I will try to get some pictures up soon. What impresses me the most is the spacing between branches or rather at this stage what will be branches very soon, There is none! These plants are on the fifth set of nodes and are apx 4.5" tall. The stem also appears to be thicker than I remember.
I am uusing FF OF soil with vermiculite and sterile sugar sand in a 60,20,20 mix ratio, as I always have. My pH is at a steady 7.0 temp is 78 under light and 60 without. PAR is at 1200 at soil surface.
I am planning on adding four more red/blue panels soon and four red panels for flowering. That will give atotal of twelve panels plus 400W MH.
In the past I have used a red spectrum 3000k MH for flowering and I am aware of the production this should yield. Hopefully the led's will improve the output!
 

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