Learn And Grow With Amos: A Pharmacy Garden For Emotional Healing

[Krissi Carbone]

Haha glad you found it ok, really happy to have you along for the ride.

Of course, I laughed along my way through and enjoyed your documentation greatly. Thank you!

Lol. I forget I need to some time insert translations for our cousins across the pond

Yes. Please! I don't dig Celsius either...I always know a foreign lander! Lmao

Fridge= Refrigerator
Tenner= £10 pounds sterling (roughly $12)

Danke shein

And Mockingjay is about right tbf. Brexit Britain Rolling blackouts are a possibility this winter to cope with the strain on the energy grid (?)

Oh my....

Yep I do indeed use tomato food. Haven’t had the same success recently but was getting 4 ounces a plant during summer warmth with photos. It’s the same NPK numbers as most regular weed feeds but a fraction of the cost

Hmph. How about them apples?

Hopefully I make your visit worth it Krissy, thanks for popping in, really appreciate it

Absolutely more than happy to be here, no thanks necessary at all friend!

 

[Trala]

Shrooms Spike my curiosity and good for you for kicking those anti depressants these sick care systems infect us with.

Hey girlfriend

I want to touch on this comment.

I would hate for it to send an anti antidepressant message to those lurkers and members who use them because they need them to help manage mental illness and long term emotional imbalance.

Antidepressants can be an important treatment when managing these illnesses. While they don’t cure it, they can certainly help the patient manage the symptoms, while learning to understand what is happening emotionally. Most times patients only need medication short term as they learn the tricks and techniques to better manage intrusive thoughts. Most times the reintroduction of exercise, healthy diet and lifestyle changes help. But for some the disease is long term. Sometimes it is trauma induced, sometimes it is lifestyle induced, sometimes it’s just an unlucky gene.

I am unlucky enough to have hit the trifecta, my mental illness is trauma/lifestyle/gene related. I have been on an antidepressant for 20 years. While it doesn’t magically cure my illness, it helps take the edge off and reduces my darkness and suicidal thoughts to a point it is manageable. I come from a long line of crazies. My mother commit suicide/accidentally overdosed 5 years ago, she fought addiction/bipolar/depression for as long as I can remember.

To me a long term antidepressant is much like using a preventor to help with the symptoms of asthma. While it doesn’t cure asthma, it helps to manage the symptoms long term if your illness is chronic. Thankfully for most when it comes to mental illness, it is often an acute flare up, so treatment is short term.

There is an absolute place for pharmacological interventions when treating mental illness. Well I think there is. I just wanted to say that on behalf of people like me, who need help pharmacologically. I hid my antidepressant use for so long because I felt a sense of weakness and shame. I won’t feel less than because I need help medically to treat a medical condition.

 

[Trala]

Sorry to take your journal briefly off topic Joe

You gonna have a tent full bruv! I’m here for the show!

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Hey girlfriend

I want to touch on this comment.

I would hate for it to send an anti antidepressant message to those lurkers and members who use them because they need them to help manage mental illness and long term emotional imbalance.

Antidepressants can be an important treatment when managing these illnesses. While they don’t cure it, they can certainly help the patient manage the symptoms, while learning to understand what is happening emotionally. Most times patients only need medication short term as they learn the tricks and techniques to better manage intrusive thoughts. Most times the reintroduction of exercise, healthy diet and lifestyle changes help. But for some the disease is long term. Sometimes it is trauma induced, sometimes it is lifestyle induced, sometimes it’s just an unlucky gene.

I am unlucky enough to have hit the trifecta, my mental illness is trauma/lifestyle/gene related. I have been on an antidepressant for 20 years. While it doesn’t magically cure my illness, it helps take the edge off and reduces my darkness and suicidal thoughts to a point it is manageable. I come from a long line of crazies. My mother commit suicide/accidentally overdosed 5 years ago, she fought addiction/bipolar/depression for as long as I can remember.

To me a long term antidepressant is much like using a preventor to help with the symptoms of asthma. While it doesn’t cure asthma, it helps to manage the symptoms long term if your illness is chronic. Thankfully for most when it comes to mental illness, it is often an acute flare up, so treatment is short term.

There is an absolute place for pharmacological interventions when treating mental illness. Well I think there is. I just wanted to say that on behalf of people like me, who need help pharmacologically. I hid my antidepressant use for so long because I felt a sense of weakness and shame. I won’t feel less than because I need help medically to treat a medical condition.

Oh Trala, I completely understand because I was one of those people. I used to cut myself, I was in a mental ward in a hospital twice for suicide attempts and I've been battling what the doctors had flagged as everything from depression to bi polar to borderline personality to ptsd ocd anxiety etc etc.

I mentioned what I did because I've been on it all and everything made me not present. I was just existing barely. It wasn't until I took refuge in myself and converted the way I began to think about things that happened to me and used outpatient therapies and CBT and DBT classes to get me where I am today. Off of pharma.....it only did me dirty and it hid my troubles.

I am a firm believer some people need certain medications but I'm also a firm believer that there is an alternative to pharma out there and I just wish I knew what the answer was. I think it's in cannabis. That's why I do what I do. This is my only 'crutch' so to speak and it serves so many medicinal purposes from me both emotionally/mentally and physically.

I think we owe it to eachother to find organic ways to heal ourselves. I don't think pharma is the answer, unfortunately. At least it wasn't for me.

Happy holidays girlfriend. Enjoy yourself

 

[Trala]

Oh Trala, I completely understand because I was one of those people. I used to cut myself, I was in a mental ward in a hospital twice for suicide attempts and I've been battling what the doctors had flagged as everything from depression to bi polar to borderline personality to ptsd ocd anxiety etc etc.

I mentioned what I did because I've been on it all and everything made me not present. I was just existing barely. It wasn't until I took refuge in myself and converted the way I began to think about things that happened to me and used outpatient therapies and CBT and DBT classes to get me where I am today. Off of pharma.....it only did me dirty and it hid my troubles.

I am a firm believer some people need certain medications but I'm also a firm believer that there is an alternative to pharma out there and I just wish I knew what the answer was. I think it's in cannabis. That's why I do what I do. This is my only 'crutch' so to speak and it serves so many medicinal purposes from me both emotionally/mentally and physically.

I think we owe it to eachother to find organic ways to heal ourselves. I don't think pharma is the answer, unfortunately. At least it wasn't for me.

Happy holidays girlfriend. Enjoy yourself

The fact you cut yourself and the fact you tried to suicide twice actually demonstrates my point. Your brain needed a time out. You were hurting yourself. At that point you needed intervention, a break from you.

I just think you tread a dangerous path when recommending treatments for illnesses you don’t completely understand. For example Mary Jane for some who have been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia can turn a paranoid into a paranoid who is now a ticking time bomb.

Sometimes a period of not being present is exactly what the sufferer needs to give them a break from those intrusive thoughts. They need to be numb, to not feel. It is often used as a bridge to get you where you need to be. It’s not always a long term treatment and it’s not a magical cure. It’s just a mental rest period until you are mentally well enough and can formulate a plan of treatment that works for you, like you have done, I’m pleased you got there with your chosen treatment, as I have with mine. I just think it can send a dangerous message when armchair experts start recommending medical treatments. Share experience by all means. But to send an anti antidepressant message is unhelpful to those who might be needing it, particularly when they helped you navigate your way through a super dark time. Every step we take to get ourselves to the place we want to be is important. Whether that be a non voluntary mental health admission, taking antidepressants, to finding a counsellor, to changing lifestyle choices, to packing a bong, it is a small step towards creating a successful treatment plan. I think broken suicidal cutting you needed those antipsychotics/antidepressants to get you through that period. That period when you couldn’t do you without pain and darkness. They were short term and helped you locate the path you needed to be on. Which is exactly my point.

Happy holidays to you too. Xo

 

[JoetheChro]

Hey girlfriend

I want to touch on this comment.

I would hate for it to send an anti antidepressant message to those lurkers and members who use them because they need them to help manage mental illness and long term emotional imbalance.

Antidepressants can be an important treatment when managing these illnesses. While they don’t cure it, they can certainly help the patient manage the symptoms, while learning to understand what is happening emotionally. Most times patients only need medication short term as they learn the tricks and techniques to better manage intrusive thoughts. Most times the reintroduction of exercise, healthy diet and lifestyle changes help. But for some the disease is long term. Sometimes it is trauma induced, sometimes it is lifestyle induced, sometimes it’s just an unlucky gene.

I am unlucky enough to have hit the trifecta, my mental illness is trauma/lifestyle/gene related. I have been on an antidepressant for 20 years. While it doesn’t magically cure my illness, it helps take the edge off and reduces my darkness and suicidal thoughts to a point it is manageable. I come from a long line of crazies. My mother commit suicide/accidentally overdosed 5 years ago, she fought addiction/bipolar/depression for as long as I can remember.

To me a long term antidepressant is much like using a preventor to help with the symptoms of asthma. While it doesn’t cure asthma, it helps to manage the symptoms long term if your illness is chronic. Thankfully for most when it comes to mental illness, it is often an acute flare up, so treatment is short term.

There is an absolute place for pharmacological interventions when treating mental illness. Well I think there is. I just wanted to say that on behalf of people like me, who need help pharmacologically. I hid my antidepressant use for so long because I felt a sense of weakness and shame. I won’t feel less than because I need help medically to treat a medical condition.

I should have probably updated and said it lasted 2 weeks. Had a builder doing work opposite me. Kept parking in my designated space and told me to fuck off when I asked him to move.

Went Me, Myself and Irene on him and chased him with his own shovel. Mrs GT said back on them I go. I mentioned the chat you and I had and it holds true

The shrooms have definitely helped. But in conjunction with the anti-depressants. I feel really shit for not saying earlier, I missed it in someone else’s post.

I really appreciate having you here Tra, I’m sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing x

 

[Jonny5]

Pharmaceuticals is a very large can of worms to open

 

[JoetheChro]

Hey everybody hope we are all well and not too stressed. I’ve seen some crazy Christmas rage today at my local shopping centre (mall)

I was reading on another thread yesterday about having good relations with your local grow shop and the poster popping in from time to time just to see what was happening

I’m notoriously…shy? Never said it out loud or wrote it down but think that’s the word for it. I haaaaaaate interacting with people. I panic when my phone rings. I’d like to get an email 3 days before stating I’m going to get said phone call to alleviate the pressure.

But I’ve turned over a new leaf of late (or been trying to) and been having these ‘interactions’ on a more frequent basis (the trip to the hardware store a big win for me)

I’ve always disliked going to grow shops here in the UK. When I first started growing they were the places to avoid. Many were watched constantly by police and criminals alike.

Equipment would be bought and towards the end of the grow it would be stolen or taken due to small trackers/being followed from grow shops.

I used to travel to Amsterdam to get my seeds and nutrients and all gardening equipment like pots bought in normal OAP gardening centres.

Then every Tom, Dick and Harry started growing, Amazon started selling nutes and a trip to the grow shop isn’t what it used to be.

So with that in mind I smoked a rather large joint and got the maps out. I’m still new to my area and get lost very easily

Anyhoo, got there with no stress, went in, fella was an absolute diamond. Ended up having a cup of tea and shooting the shit with him (didn’t tell him anything of substance and left the dog in the motor should anyone try anything. Cant be trusting grow shop motherfuckers )

It felt good. Got what I needed, spoke with a like minded weedhead and was back in time for lunch

Want to say thank you to @Grand Daddy Black for the idea in his thread (and to also get him over here, don’t know how many hints I need to give )

And….

Got some PH buffer while I was in there to clean my pen.

Er. Do you remember them crispy leaves that I was sure was my soil. Yeah it actually turns out was my own silly stupid mistake.

Every feed I’m putting in at 6.5 was actually 4.5

School boy error don’t even cut it

 

[JoetheChro]

Got a bit paranoid about everyone asking me about the tomato feed so got myself some normal weed nutes too

 

[Azimuth]

Do you grow a CBD heavy variety? That's supposed to work very well for anxiety, PTSD, and similar things. Also supposed to help you get a great night's sleep, and assist with pain.

I'm just vegging one now so don't have any first hand experience to give you, but the internet said it so It must be true!

Actually, science does as well, Here's a video with three medical professionals kicking the topic around.

 

[Trala]

You got a tent full there bruv!

They are defs gonna keep you outta trouble for a while

 

[JoetheChro]

Do you grow a CBD heavy variety? That's supposed to work very well for anxiety, PTSD, and similar things. Also supposed to help you get a great night's sleep, and assist with pain.

I'm just vegging one now so don't have any first hand experience to give you, but the internet said it so It must be true!

Actually, science does as well, Here's a video with three medical professionals kicking the topic around.

Thank you Azi I will definitely look into it

I’ve not ever grown my own, closest I’ve come to a CBD heavy was a critical kush I done a few years ago.

Shrooms have helped. I know I can’t smoke certain types of bud otherwise I just turn into a hermit so CBD might be the way

 

[JoetheChro]

You got a tent full there bruv!

They are defs gonna keep you outta trouble for a while

That’s the plan Trala

Proper lesson in why equipment needs to be checked and rechecked before every grow, even the smallest items

Only £2 a bottle so can’t even blame the cost

 

[Trala]

That’s the plan Trala

Proper lesson in why equipment needs to be checked and rechecked before every grow, even the smallest items

Only £2 a bottle so can’t even blame the cost

I think it’s a great hobby.

I also think it’s a helpful stepping stone to having you interact with the outside world without feelings of dread or shyness.

Gear change:- I want to work on your rage issues in 2023. We train our brain. Teach it. What ever we fill it with, it thinks we want. Depression breeds depression. Anxiety breeds anxiety. Shyness breeds shyness. And so on.

I was talking to my boyfriend yesterday. He has terrible road rage. I don’t so I don’t understand it. I was talking to him and reminded him that he doesn’t know what’s happening to the driver behind or in front. They could be heartbroken, lost, trying to get to the hospital or just a plain dick. Him being angry just fucks his day. Ruins his drive. And for what? Choose happiness where ever possible I say!

I have some really good tips (not that you asked for them lol). About the third year in to my sobriety after doing a 12 Step Program to get off heroin I became proper agoraphobic. Like proper. I couldn’t even go to my mailbox. Took 6 months to get back to normal. I learned some great tips.

 

[JoetheChro]

I think it’s a great hobby.

I also think it’s a helpful stepping stone to having you interact with the outside world without feelings of dread or shyness.

Gear change:- I want to work on your rage issues in 2023. We train our brain. Teach it. What ever we fill it with, it thinks we want. Depression breeds depression. Anxiety breeds anxiety. Shyness breeds shyness. And so on.

I was talking to my boyfriend yesterday. He has terrible road rage. I don’t so I don’t understand it. I was talking to him and reminded him that he doesn’t know what’s happening to the driver behind or in front. They could be heartbroken, lost, trying to get to the hospital or just a plain dick. Him being angry just fucks his day. Ruins his drive. And for what? Choose happiness where ever possible I say!

I have some really good tips (not that you asked for them lol). About the third year in to my sobriety after doing a 12 Step Program to get off heroin I became proper agoraphobic. Like proper. I couldn’t even go to my mailbox. Took 6 months to get back to normal. I learned some great tips.

Lol on the rage. I’m quiet as a mouse. It’s PTSD. Done a few tough years in a young offenders institute and then prison when I came of age. Saw and did some horrible shit and never really got over it. Haven’t been able to deal with people since.

Having kids has helped, I left that whole world behind as soon as I found out we were expecting and it’s got better and better everyday. Took one hell of a pay cut but I’m there everyday for my family and that’s what matters

I will definitely take you up on the advice Tra, thank you for taking the time to offer it

P.S: I don’t get road rage. I qualified as a driving instructor when I left the other life

 

[Trala]

Lol on the rage. I’m quiet as a mouse. It’s PTSD. Done a few tough years in a young offenders institute and then prison when I came of age. Saw and did some horrible shit and never really got over it. Haven’t been able to deal with people since.

Having kids has helped, I left that whole world behind as soon as I found out we were expecting and it’s got better and better everyday. Took one hell of a pay cut but I’m there everyday for my family and that’s what matters

I will definitely take you up on the advice Tra, thank you for taking the time to offer it

P.S: I don’t get road rage. I qualified as a driving instructor when I left the other life

I was more referring to your chasing a dude with his own fucking shovel like a loon!

Lollllll

Honestly, I have some great tips. If I can turn my fucktardia around anyone can.

 

[JoetheChro]

I was more referring to your chasing a dude with his own fucking shovel like a loon!

Lollllll

Honestly, I have some great tips. If I can turn my fucktardia around anyone can.

Lol. We’ve already seen my black and white thinking in action on another thread…

Forgot about shovel man. Probably part of the problem (or I’ve got good weed and just forget )

I’m not about that. I like a quiet life and live for my family, everything I do is for them (including defending our parking space from intruders)

 

[JoetheChro]

Morning campers Merry Christmas to all

The festivities have begun started my day with a big old bowl of weed porridge.

Really nice buzz in the GT household, have got my little ones dressed as elves, dog has antlers that won’t stay on, panicking about whether turkey will be defrosted in time. Fun times ahead hope it’s the same for you guys

 

[Bill284]

Morning campers Merry Christmas to all

The festivities have begun started my day with a big old bowl of weed porridge.

Really nice buzz in the GT household, have got my little ones dressed as elves, dog has antlers that won’t stay on, panicking about whether turkey will be defrosted in time. Fun times ahead hope it’s the same for you guys

Merry Christmas my friend.
Have a great New Year.
Take care.




#VIVOSUN #Love What You Grow
Bill284

 

[JoetheChro]

Getting the party started