Landrace Genetics 101

How would someone pay for something that no one owns? Just curious. Who would charge for "air" or "water"? Or course the american government thinks they own water apparently as countless people have been arrested for harvesting rain water. So tough to use things that no one owns as examples of applying 'worth' in my mind.

I prefer legit tangible items that are produced. I find it amazing that people will spend hundreds on phones (and upgrade to the newest one every 6 months) and then bitch about the cost of free range chicken eggs or organic produce. Or hell.....sneakers. Ain't no freaking way I am paying 200 bucks for a pair of sneakers. Work boots....hell yeah! If you are on your feet all day for work, especially those of us that worked long days (all my days were 12-16 hour days occasionally 20+ hours long) and you can't put a price on not being in pain. I won't blink at 200 bucks for comfy boots that will last me a year. I would much rather buy a greenhouse so I can grow more of my own veggies for longer than buy a bunch of bullshit that society wants me to find important. But I digress....I am a cranky, closing in on 50, and have a much different point of view on life than most people. I want to move further away from people and have more land to live more and more self sufficient. Cannabis has turned into one of the few "necessities" (for pain) along with food, shelter, clothing and modest creature comforts.

20hour days.. land of the free. I take it your rich and slavery was abolished.. makes you think....
Work Boots, good pair, worth every cent.. hard to buy though. I'll have my Steel caps showing for months before New pair. Not because of price... how comfortable are worn in work boots :rofl:
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"But I digress....I am a cranky, closing in on 50, and have a much different point of view on life than most people. I want to move further away from people and have more land to live more and more self sufficient"
I resemble that comment :rofl:
 
Fuck no I am not rich. Grew up poor.....learned the value of working at a young age. Busted my ass as a kid mowing lawns...was making almost as much money as dad by the time I was 15. Joined the Marines and did 22 years, traveled the world (more than 30 countries). Retired, was working as sub contractor installing medical imaging equipment for Siemens before injuring my back. Work was all travel work. Find out you need to install a PET CT in Cedar Rapids Iowa tomorrow. Pack your shit and catch a flight. Never knew when you might be back home. You might get sent from Iowa down to Puerto Rico or out to Alaska and then on to somewhere else. Been times I didn't go home for a month. I drew the line at international jobs. Siemens does installs world wide but fuck that....I am done traveling to places I am not selecting to go. No point in working 8 hour days when you are away from home....nobody has time for that. Standard day is 12-14 hour days but accelerated installations are generally 16-20 hour work days. Money isn't bad with OT but rich would never describe what you become working that job. Though I guess that could be open for interpretation as well.

As for the reference to slavery, not quite sure what you mean.

I had a pair of work boots I tried to get resoled because they were so damn comfy. Tried a few places....none of them would do it. WTF?? I used to get my boots resoled all the time in the Marines. I love me some nice comfy broken in boots! I have some Danner hiking boots that are over 10 years old and have A LOT of miles on them. Damn things are almost slick on the soles and no one will resole them either! Where did all the cobblers go?
 
Slavery reference is hours required from bosses to get the job done... Different in your case with working away from home.. here in Australia we have just done away with penalty rates for weekend, public holidays and overtime.. and what is also becoming to be seen as normal, it's expected workers volunteing their time. That thing where workers worked for free to save the factory and their jobs, seems like it's in the startup business plan now.... I work for myself, I don't know if I could sleep, paying a dude half his hours so I can pay my house off quicker...
 
My wife's father was a shoemaker, as was his father. :) Have you ever paused to remember how much shoes used to cost, inflation adjusted? Ouch!

And I wanted to say that I appreciate cranky people for their efficiency of speech - saves a lot of useless chatter. I've been known to take advantage myself! :rofl:
 
I always worked for myself too, Grizz. :) But have you noticed - hardly anyone wants to do that? :hmmmm: They want a boss and a regular check. Even when they don't need a boss.

And @Van ... didja know Dajerm is an independent landscape guy? I told him he'll be fine, no matter what happens to the economy. It's a real occupation, not one of those with the strange madeup names.
 
:rofl: landraces can improve the landscape..
Greytail, I'm not sure I could go back working for a wage or somebody else... much more job satisfaction and $$
 
Slavery reference is hours required from bosses to get the job done... Different in your case with working away from home.. here in Australia we have just done away with penalty rates for weekend, public holidays and overtime.. and what is also becoming to be seen as normal, it's expected workers volunteing their time. That thing where workers worked for free to save the factory and their jobs, seems like it's in the startup business plan now.... I work for myself, I don't know if I could sleep, paying a dude half his hours so I can pay my house off quicker...
Ah ok....gotcha. Well coming from a poor upbringing (father lived in the UP of Michigan and they were trappers and loggers and farmers and mom grew up on a small farm in New Hampshire) where there was no such thing as a 9-5 job and if you didn't work you didn't stay warm or fed, my parents instilled that same mindset into me. I don't mind working, hell I can say I love to work, to be productive, to feel I accomplished something. But fuck that, no way I am working for the way you described for free. We do have guys like that in our company, but a lot of it is self induced as well. Our jobs have set hours. You get 50 man hours for example for doing a CT install, 80 for an MRI, 60 for x-rays, etc. If you bill them for anything over your set hours you have to have a valid reason accompanied by pictures, etc or its basically a no go. A lot of the people I worked with (when they were team leaders) were slow as hell, took long lunches, etc. and would run behind. They would come to me and say "hey we gotta work late tonight, we gotta finish by tomorrow and we are behind" . I would respond with no problem, what code are we billing it against? "Oh we gotta work off the clock to catch up".

LOL...no, you might be working off the clock but I don't work for free. Not my fault you were screwing around but I wasn't. LOL, they would usually work off the clock late while I would be back at the hotel. Fuck that. I always finished my jobs early and we always got a ton of free hours. There were times we would finish a 7 day in 4 days and then have 2 or 3 days of site seeing in whatever state or city we might be in....ON THE CLOCK! I never left a hour on the table....but I also NEVER went over on job hours and I never had start up issues.

I would have fired half the people I worked with if I was running the company. But I would also change to paying by the job (high enough that if they hustled they could perhaps do two installs in a week and make double what they currently are hourly) , not the hour and I would find different type of workers (hustlers looking to work hard and make more money) as well as pay bonuses for quality levels. I am a firm believer in overpaying your great workers. I have seen how much bad employees can cost a company. Get rid of them, find a good one and pay them so they know you appreciate what THEY do for YOU.
 
I always worked for myself too, Grizz. :) But have you noticed - hardly anyone wants to do that? :hmmmm: They want a boss and a regular check. Even when they don't need a boss.

And @Van ... didja know Dajerm is an independent landscape guy? I told him he'll be fine, no matter what happens to the economy. It's a real occupation, not one of those with the strange madeup names.
LOL....yeah if I would have known what a gold mine I was sitting on at that age. I gave my friend all my lawns to mow when I decided to seek out Uncle Sam. I fell out of touch with him for a decade or so but saw him around the time I was retiring from the Corps. Dude went big time with it. We had a few beers, he's got commercial business out the ying yang, crews running everywhere.....asked him what he was pulling in ballpark now. He laughed, joked that he can't believe he actually thought about college back in high school and then told me he started pulling more than 250k a year within 5 years and he's way above that mark now. Grass grows year around down in Florida....great industry to be in.

I want to work for myself as well. Probably dabble in a few things. We are going to start setting up beehives next year and likely try to sell some at local farmers markets. If I can get the back fixed up, I would like to put up a greenhouse and do a bunch of veggies and stuff (all the natural way....like I prefer my cannabis) and do a little here and there. And then of course there is cannabis!
 
Plays Rush's, "The Working Man"

Hey Van you have any western wear stores nearby? Most of them resole boots around here. Cowboys hold on to the same pair of boots until they die it seems.

I've got these Redback boots that are comfy as all hell. A friend gave them to me and apparently a trick he uses is he puts truck liner on the toes so he doesn't wear them out so fast. Looks kinda goofy and apparently my gf hates them, but I have been wearing them all summer because they're just so damn comfy.
 
Hell I will try contacting them. I would love to get them resoled. The cobbler said something about they were single piece soles or some crap (I don't speak cobbler) and that they couldn't replace them. If Danner can....I will gladly send them in. I love those boots.
 
I love my boots too :) I think they have some glued in soles that were maybe made in china. But I think the ones made in Portland are sewn in and good to resole. Def contact them I have friends and fam that rave about them.... It's Funny I wear Georgia boots. Bought them on a whim and never been dissapionted. 10 years on my feet at least. But I have been to the Danner store with Ms Fish when she got her boots and they are legit. I watched a guy repair a sole right in from of me. It was great.
 
With my luck my pair is probably one that has the cheap china soles. But damn it man....they were comfy boots. I could put 20 miles on them in a day and not feel the least bit sore. Not good for fall hunting cause they won't keep the feet warm but I swear I could walk across the country in them. I haven't brought myself to throw them away in hopes of getting them fixed. I am sentimental to weird shit. Those boots have been to a lot of places and I think about some of those places every time I see them.
 
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