Kush DWC grow

Re: LabRat's latest Kush DWC grow.

Hell, it was so hot that after it was all over even the neighbours lit up! :rofl:
 
Re: LabRat's latest Kush DWC grow.

Labrat,
If a female plant gets pollen from a male lets say at 1 or 2 buds will the entire plant be affected or just the specific buds?
 
Re: LabRat's latest Kush DWC grow.

Good question Joe. +rep

Just the buds unless a significant portion of the plant has been pollinated then the plant will put so much energy into making seed that the unfertilized buds will all but stop growing. The affected buds could be removed then the plant would double it's efforts to get fertile by producing more flowers and maybe some male flowers. I believe if it did that, the seed produced from those male flowers would give you fem seed. If you want to selectively breed you can dust some lower buds with pollen and carry on but save those buds on the plant after harvest until the seed is mature.

Hope that helped. :peace:
 
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I thought I read somewhere that the way you determine if the seed is mature is that they will start to fall off the bud on it's own...

Is there any truth to that?
 
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The only problem with using seed from hermies is the high incedent rate of hermies in their seeds, something like 33% of seedlings from hermi's will carry that trait and 33% more can pass that trait to a future seedling even if it isn't. That is if they are true hermi's (male flowers / balls for no good reason).

If the plant is just responding to some stress activity (light leaks, etc.) by throwing flowers it is generally good pollen and will make fem seeds (no male genes to play with).

I think most seed growers that make fem seeds induce male flowers in strains that don't have hermi traits to get their pollen.

I have like 100 or more seeds from one of my provider's strains that is fabulous medicine but has problems with male flowers past 8 weeks even if the tricomes aren't ready. Afgooey.....his strain or something. It just happens to be my preferred bedtime medicine until I find something better, it is a heavy indica. Not sure I will ever grow any cuz of it.....sigh.
 
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Another great question Joe but I'm all out of reps for you. LOL

Not all plants and not all strains but generally yes. The calyx splits open and sometimes the seed pops right out. Once they start splitting you could even cut off the branch, put it in a container of water like a cutting and free up the space in the grow room or right after harvest regen the plants with the branch on while you're waiting for the seeds to mature. They'll finish up even when you switch back to veg lighting. Plus new growth will start from the buds containing seed. I've done it so I know it works.

Man, I need a toke. :bong: Ah, KaliMist. What a great pick-me-up! :peace:
 
Re: LabRat's latest Kush DWC grow.

Hey MH.

I have like 100 or more seeds from one of my provider's strains that is fabulous medicine but has problems with male flowers past 8 weeks even if the tricomes aren't ready. Afgooey.....his strain or something. It just happens to be my preferred bedtime medicine until I find something better, it is a heavy indica. Not sure I will ever grow any cuz of it.....sigh.
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Do you mean that the male flowers are screwing your chances to finish up these girls? I only got a few plants with male parts other than the 3 I took out as they had too many balls. The others only had a few and way down low on the little branches. There are about 4 fems in there I picked as good clone material for after I regen them. Then I'll have a good mom for filling the tubs.

:peace:
 
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I really have gone on the thought process that you grow a mother plant and just clone from there... It just seems to make the most sense...

Now all I need is to learn how to perfect my cloning process....
 
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Joe Coffee said:
I really have gone on the thought process that you grow a mother plant and just clone from there... It just seems to make the most sense...

Now all I need is to learn how to perfect my cloning process....
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Cloning has never been one of my greatest skills either. The last time I did I killed 18 nice Kali cuttings. I kept them too hot and moist and they damped off on me. Every one. I just use the pro-mix/perlite, 80/20 mix, dip the cutting in gel then #2 powder and plant. A cfl in the cupboard is all you need to get them to root. Keep the temp down to 75 and don't let them sit in a steam bath and I usually have good luck. Those plastic cake holders from the supermarket make killer clone boxes for the small grower and you get to eat cake!

Maybe just practice with some spare trimmings off your plants even if you don't need them. You really don't even need clone gel. I've cloned them by leaving branches in water with nothing. Good skill to learn so when it's time to get some clones you're up to it.

Those cloneamatic things are cool but not necessary for successful cloning. I've seen lots of threads with guys aking what went wrong with their fancy gizmo. They do work tho I have to say.

:peace:
 
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I guess i will have to learn to get good at cloning!
YES! it does take practice.... and patience.... and technique....
 
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every time i pop in here i get school. Thanks for the great information on how fem seeds are made and so good tips on cloning :thanks:
 
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LabRat said:
Hey MH.



Do you mean that the male flowers are screwing your chances to finish up these girls? I only got a few plants with male parts other than the 3 I took out as they had too many balls. The others only had a few and way down low on the little branches. There are about 4 fems in there I picked as good clone material for after I regen them. Then I'll have a good mom for filling the tubs.

:peace:
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Nah, I am too new to know what to watch for and I don't wanna miss male flowers and get seeds even if they are just tiny immature ones, so I am afraid to try these gorgeous mature seeds. Maybe after I get my bubbler skills dialed in on something easy, I keep hoping to get ahold of some NL, I have never tried it and have always wanted to. I have never tried Widow either....I am so deprived, lol. :ganjamon:

Peace :peace:
 
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MountainHigh said:
Nah, I am too new to know what to watch for and I don't wanna miss male flowers and get seeds even if they are just tiny immature ones, so I am afraid to try these gorgeous mature seeds. Maybe after I get my bubbler skills dialed in on something easy, I keep hoping to get ahold of some NL, I have never tried it and have always wanted to. I have never tried Widow either....I am so deprived, lol. :ganjamon:

Peace :peace:
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Keep your panties on sister. A few male naughty bits aren't anything to shy away from. Were you that scared the first time you stared a . . . never mind, we won't go there. You're only deprived because you say you're deprived. How are you going to get your bubbler skills dialed in if you don't get your beans wet?

Ok. Enough tough love for now. I don't care what anyone says, growing real good pot in soil is a lot more complex than running a bubbler. It's like making an angel food cake from scratch or one out of a box. A lot of guys are going for the gold and make DWC a lot harder for a nOOb to grasp than it has to be. All those additives and stuff fill the nute makers wallets and are of limited value when the harvest is done. All that extra coin may have got you an extra 25% but the extra expense eats up the difference. If you're willing to settle for silver or bronze you can have just as good weed just maybe not so much. Less headache is better than a little extra weed IMHO. I'll probably get flamed for that but oh well. I'm a miserable old prick and I got a tough hide.

Now to the beans. You know how hermaphrodism works. Some have lots of balls, some have a few balls and some have no balls at all. You've got lots of beans so you can spare a few. Get a bunch of seeds started say 30. Get a bubbler tub like mine ready with say 6 - 5" pots. Plant as many babies as you got from the 30 seeds and don't worry about nothing until flowering time.

Male flowers are easy to identify and you just pick them off if there are a few or kill the plant if there are many. If you want, thin them out to one female per pot. More if they're strong plants. With any luck you'll have at least one good fem in each pot.

The nutes are easy. Start low and work up. pH isn't hard if you start with quality hydro nutes. Just buy a quart each of a 3 part solution like AN and the pH don't wander too much. A decent TDS meter and you're ready to go. A bit more to it than that but not much.

If you want to try it, go for it. It really is easy to get good results. Personally, it matters not to me how you grow and I'm not trying to sway you to the dark side or anything. I'm more than willing to give you a hand if you want and so are many others around here.

Look over my tub tutorial if you haven't yet and read the last 8 pages of my journal to see the abuse these girls can take. I'm taking chances with my girls so you don't have to worry so much about yours.

It took 53 days in the tubs, 41 flowering, to grow this and it's got 3 weeks to finish. 12 days was veg.

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It's up to you. :peace:


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Re: LabRat's latest Kush DWC grow.

That's pretty, but only thing stopping me from running my bubbler is money lol.

I still need parts I won't have money for until a couple months from now (tight budget). Main problem is getting ahold of those strains for me, I am not certain how to order seeds safely or get them locally. I have never ordered seeds or known anyone that has, my provider has filled me plenty of paranoia about it too.

This month I got my pumps, airstones and line and tubs, next is buckets, hydroton, panda plastic/mylar/spray glue and some rockwool to start clones/seeds for hydro. The following is nutes / cloning gel. See I have a plan. :ganjamon:

:thanks: for all the good advice.

I was teasing about being deprived btw ;). I am a strain noobie, I only recently started smoking pot (again), when I used to smoke we had bag weed and occasionally my buddies from SF would score some Humbolt (no clue the strain haha), but it was kind lime green bud, got to try purple Jamaican, Acapulco gold and Maui Wowie and plenty of Mexican Sativa lol. Humbolt by far has the best memories for me though, wish I knew what it really was, headband or what. Yeah I caught the tail end of when you use to buy "lids" measured in fingers....always make sure you get a giant for a dealer lol.

Peace Labrat :peace:
 
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Fantastic grow and setups. All the years of experience are evident in beautiful plants, and an extremely elegant setup. There's soooo much good knowledge (the real knowledge about plants - not what the latest fad is) in this thread. Thanks.
 
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Tiger Balm said:
Hey, Joe - I have two males bagged and a couple of flowers have opened. I'll take pix for you tomorrow. Have to get some zzzzs first.
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Here is the promised pic for Joe Coffee with a male flower opened. Sorry for the quality, the shot was thru a plastic window in a paper bag.

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dahcwon said:
every time i pop in here i get school. Thanks for the great information on how fem seeds are made and so good tips on cloning :thanks:
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I second that...and thats all I have to say about that.

L8ER
 

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