re: KingJohnC's Lush Lighting LED Dominator 2x Soil Indoor Grow Journal & Review
Let's assume that Lush has spent the money doing the research, this would have costs associated with it to find out the exact spectrum of light that plants require during their life cycle, and let's assume they went to Cree or worked with Cree to custom order diodes with a particular spectrum based on their research. Having Cree make custom color diodes for Lush products would also cost them a lot of money. Limiting Cree from selling those diodes to anyone else would also require a contract of some kind which lawyers would charge for. From a company point of view they spent a lot of money, and like all companies they need to recoup their costs, and protect their investment. I do not slight Lush in any way for doing their research and charging more for what they believe to be a superior product.
If this is true then they would be protecting their in vestment by having contract with Cree..
And keeping their spectrum a secret is not silly, it's good business, especially if they did have diodes with a spectrum custom made. Sure someone can disassemble Lush's light but then they would have to find a manufacturer to custom make the spectrum of diodes Lush uses. And their high price point is due to their proprietary mix of their spectrum.
If someone else had to make custom diodes it would cost them too and their prices would be high also.
With Kushington Farms review and if KJC gets the same results I believe that Lush Lighting will have done the work required to ask for the higher price point. If KJC gets different results then the debate will continue I suppose. Either way the facts will emerge in time, and customers or lack there of will decide their final price.
There are many others using other LED panels getting same results, I have never said nor implied that these are not good panels, but are they as much better compared to cost? That is what I have not seen.
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Let us not let fear decide our fate, let common sense, logic, research and critical thinking have some say in our decision making.
I agree 100%. That is why I wish a lush rep would stop by and address concerns, because right now we are just speculating, one would think they would be on top of this. Also why I have been suggesting a direct side by side comparison test with other LED panels.
I am all for innovation and paying a premium for something that is truly better, I just have seen nothing to justify their extreme price point.
There are just to many open questions for this one to consider buying their products at this price point.
And I have no doubts that KJC will have good results, but would he get the same results with a LED panel that costs less?
I hope KJC and others do not take make skepticism of Lush as a company as a slight on his growing skills, that is not my intention. I am just a scientist that knows the physics of light/photons and Lush's claims do not mesh with what I know from that education/experience, so I am looking for some explanations. And also to help everyone make an educated consumer decision.
To add, one of the biggest, and probably only, problem I have with this forum in General is that people seem to be unwilling to be critical. So when someone like myself is questioning something it goes against the 'vibe' of these forums. I believe this is a hinderance to what I think most people are here for, good information on good ways to grow good weed. That being said it is still a great forum, I just think could be better with more constructive criticism.
led makes my kilt fly up for sure
just my 2 wheatstraws
