Keffka's Recycling, KOS Blue Thai, Herbies Seeds Apple Betty, Runtz Punch

[SmokingWings]

I did not see it.

The shelves were floor to ceiling and narrow isles in-between shelving units. And no pallets of growing medium or stacks of different sized pots. The kept some bags of medium in the back near the door to the parking lot and I guess if a regular customer wanted large quantities he sent a pickup truck to wherever he had it stored.

They were already pretty crammed into the freeway location so it must’ve been a squeeze

He had two other stores with the same name and the only one I got a chance to visit was the one down at the Eastern Market. That was a larger size and nicely lit up and well stocked. Think that he closed that one down in 2020 or '21. That one never struck me as the best location but then the Market area and type of customers going there is changing from the people that went downtown even a decade or two earlier.

 

[Keffka]

The shelves were floor to ceiling and narrow isles in-between shelving units. And no pallets of growing medium or stacks of different sized pots. The kept some bags of medium in the back near the door to the parking lot and I guess if a regular customer wanted large quantities he sent a pickup truck to wherever he had it stored.


He had two other stores with the same name and the only one I got a chance to visit was the one down at the Eastern Market. That was a larger size and nicely lit up and well stocked. Think that he closed that one down in 2020 or '21. That one never struck me as the best location but then the Market area and type of customers going there is changing from the people that went downtown even a decade or two earlier.

I think they have a location downriver as well possibly. It’s disappointing. I was able to source most of my harder to find amendments there for cheaper than online and it was within 2 miles.

I’m on the look out again for a place that has minerals, meals, and more that’s not too far away. There’s a few nurseries nearby but they usually don’t have a big enough selection.

I didn’t like English gardens, too limited and seasonal. Every time I go by HTG it’s closed One day I’ll have to make the trip when I’m off work. I just really don’t like going west of 94

 

[SmokingWings]

Every time I go by HTG it’s closed One day I’ll have to make the trip when I’m off work.

Short hours on Saturday and they were closed on Sundays for awhile. The hours the stores are open is set by the corporate offices if I understand right. But they are now open on Sundays again for about 5 or 6 hours. Not sure about today and next Sunday though because of Christmas Eve and New Years Eve. Some grow shops have cut their hours because of fewer people coming in. Some growers doing on-line shopping and some doing less growing or completely not growing anymore.

I didn’t like English gardens, too limited and seasonal.

They deal with a different type of customer with a different experience level. I have not been to an English Gardens in years.

I just really don’t like going west of 94

Grew up on the west side. Got a driver's license and our group started cruising Woodward, Telegraph and Gratiot. Couple of years later I was at Wayne State U. and started meeting people from all over and had to learn how to find my my around the metro area. Got married another couple of years later and we have been on the east side ever since.

There is another decent grow & hydroponic shop just over the county line going into Oakland County. Up by 14 Mile Rd and about a half mile west of I-75. Good selection and decent prices. I would go there just to look around and then justify the trip by going to a nearby Barnes and Noble bookstore.

 

[Keffka]

Short hours on Saturday and they were closed on Sundays for awhile. The hours the stores are open is set by the corporate offices if I understand right. But they are now open on Sundays again for about 5 or 6 hours. Not sure about today and next Sunday though because of Christmas Eve and New Years Eve. Some grow shops have cut their hours because of fewer people coming in. Some growers doing on-line shopping and some doing less growing or completely not growing anymore.


They deal with a different type of customer with a different experience level. I have not been to an English Gardens in years.


Grew up on the west side. Got a driver's license and our group started cruising Woodward, Telegraph and Gratiot. Couple of years later I was at Wayne State U. and started meeting people from all over and had to learn how to find my my around the metro area. Got married another couple of years later and we have been on the east side ever since.

There is another decent grow & hydroponic shop just over the county line going into Oakland County. Up by 14 Mile Rd and about a half mile west of I-75. Good selection and decent prices. I would go there just to look around and then justify the trip by going to a nearby Barnes and Noble bookstore.

I grew up all over the metro area mainly east side.. Lived in Detroit at 8 and schoenherr then 15 and dodge park right behind Carleton middle school. Then 25 and Hayes, 18 and Van Dyke, 16 and schoenherr, 19 and canal area, 15 and Utica, now 8 and Harper. I’ve also lived in South Korea, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Kansas. I “lived” in Afghanistan for a year and have been to a few Eastern European, and Asian countries as a transient.

I’ve been quite a few places, yet somehow always come back to the east side

 

[Keffka]

Saved for a few months and got an Amazon gift card so I bought this bad boy. I only game at 1080p and currently have a 1660 super so this should give a nice visual boost and enable me to get the 144 fps I prefer to play at.

 

[Keffka]

Isn’t Stanley the company that makes cheap tools? How did they hoodwink the nation into buying overpriced cups?

 

[Bill284]

Merry Christmas Buddy


Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Isn’t Stanley the company that makes cheap tools? How did they hoodwink the nation into buying overpriced cups?

They're an old school thermos company. I had one when I was a kid.

Edit: And another when I was in the Army. (I had to double check)

 

[Keffka]

They're an old school thermos company. I had one when I was a kid.

Edit: And another when I was in the Army. (I had to double check)

In typical fashion, I did a deep dive on it The company I was thinking of is now called Stanley Black and Decker. It is also a 100+ year company with many more companies under its name than I realized. Cheap tools being one of them lol.

Stanley cups are from a company called Pacific Market International. Different Stanley’s, unfortunate name association

 

[Gee64]

Merry Christmas Keff

 

[Keffka]

She’s finishing off now.. Just waiting for the stigmas to crinkle back in and we’re good to go. She looks rough and resinous.. Probably going to be a high quality buzz

 

[Gee64]

Very frosty.

 

[Maritimer]

Ahoy @Keffka
Swooped in and seen these pictures you posted. The impression is very positive. The discoloration of sugar leaves makes me believe the GRN was on top of her game. The repurposing of available plant resources is in full glory. The cola sugar lamina is the paramount indicator that the hormonal balance (homeostasis) was adjusted by the Genetic Regulatory Network (GRN) and available resources were being "transferred" and stored energies repurposed as response to the hormonally driven species survival commands. Cannibalization of sugar energies is really positive.

The command to protect her seed stock is encoded in her DNA and we stimulate the JA pathways thru drought and or MeJA to maximize this effect. I use the MeJA first as it actually adds to the trichome populations. The drought fills and overfills (stretches) the trichomes.

If you like to hash out some science for fun, I am game!
Love this stuff
Full Sails @ You

 

[Keffka]

Ahoy @Keffka
Swooped in and seen these pictures you posted. The impression is very positive. The discoloration of sugar leaves makes me believe the GRN was on top of her game. The repurposing of available plant resources is in full glory. The cola sugar lamina is the paramount indicator that the hormonal balance (homeostasis) was adjusted by the Genetic Regulatory Network (GRN) and available resources were being "transferred" and stored energies repurposed as response to the hormonally driven species survival commands. Cannibalization of sugar energies is really positive.

The command to protect her seed stock is encoded in her DNA and we stimulate the JA pathways thru drought and or MeJA to maximize this effect. I use the MeJA first as it actually adds to the trichome populations. The drought fills and overfills (stretches) the trichomes.

If you like to hash out some science for fun, I am game!
Love this stuff
Full Sails @ You

Ahoy cap’n, Welcome aboard! It’s a pleasure to have you drop your knowledge and observations. I am woefully behind in my hormone studies. I have a couple books en route and have been looking through some of your stuff as well so I should get up to speed relatively quickly.

I understand plant growth and its processes. I understand the soil, soil life, and bacteria much more. I know what hormones are and what they do, but I haven’t gotten into any specifics on the subject. I figure it’s time to learn what exactly is driving these forces and changes Ive observed.

I’ll have plenty of questions to come

 

[Jon]

Ahoy @Keffka
Swooped in and seen these pictures you posted. The impression is very positive. The discoloration of sugar leaves makes me believe the GRN was on top of her game. The repurposing of available plant resources is in full glory. The cola sugar lamina is the paramount indicator that the hormonal balance (homeostasis) was adjusted by the Genetic Regulatory Network (GRN) and available resources were being "transferred" and stored energies repurposed as response to the hormonally driven species survival commands. Cannibalization of sugar energies is really positive.

The command to protect her seed stock is encoded in her DNA and we stimulate the JA pathways thru drought and or MeJA to maximize this effect. I use the MeJA first as it actually adds to the trichome populations. The drought fills and overfills (stretches) the trichomes.

If you like to hash out some science for fun, I am game!
Love this stuff
Full Sails @ You

Hey @Maritimer, happy holidays and hope all is well. Question: do you think it’s better to let the plant cannibalize itself and eat all the sugars out of the leaves, vs keeping the plant green to the end? Thanks!

 

[Keffka]

+94

The runt has stopped swelling and building out. Its stigmas are starting to fall/crinkle and it’s throwing out huge waves of trichomes across the buds. I can see resin coming to the surface of the buds and stigmas sticking to it.

This plant is going to pack a huge punch in a small package. I will likely get 3-4 ounces off of it but it’s going to be extremely high quality. Any time you can correctly flower a hybrid for 13+ weeks, you’re going to get a high quality smoke. I’d like to get it to 17 at least but I don’t think she’s gonna stay viable that long.

I received one of my hormone books yesterday and will get the other today so I likely won’t respond as much as normal over this weekend while I read through those. I’ll be stopping at a new grow shop tomorrow morning so I can pickup the last bit of stuff to initiate the recycle as well as meetup with one of our members. I’ll post that information as I start the process of recycling root balls.

 

[Maritimer]

Hey @Maritimer, happy holidays and hope all is well. Question: do you think it’s better to let the plant cannibalize itself and eat all the sugars out of the leaves, vs keeping the plant green to the end? Thanks!

Ahoy @Jon
Your question has two correct but opposite answers. The plant is far happier when she has her green leaves playing catch with the photons. The gardener is far happier when her green leaves are wilted, crinkled and discolored as proof of a hard life.

In good times, with available plant resources supplied to the cultivar and she is not deprived of water she will grow green. Good for her. She will produce trichomes mostly concentrated in her flowers as a function of her DNA, with the intention of filling those trichomes with oils to protect her seed stock from predators during dormancy. Normal, and good. This is cannabis.

In bad times like an insect infestation, the cannabis plant being controlled by the GRN will alter the hormonal cocktail and direct the synthesis of additional trichome populations covering a larger volume of plant mass including sun leaves and branchial structures in hopes the sticky oils will dissuade the attacking insects. This is most beneficial for full extract (FECO) trichome harvesting. More of the plant is covered with trichomes instead of only the flowers.

To simulate an insect attack I use foliar MeJA in the 6th week of flower.

In drought the GRN will detect the water shortage and make changes to the hormonal cocktail directing the closing of most transpiration of the lamina, sealing in the moisture. Simultaneously the species survival encoding in her DNA will be threatened and she will begin overproducing essential oils to fill and overfill (stretch) the glands.

I initiate drought beginning the 7th week of flower and lasting up to 11 days to attain a greater than 50% change in turgid leaf wilt angles.

Towards the end of flower none of my plants are very green. LOL

 

[Azimuth]

In bad times like an insect infestation, the cannabis plant being controlled by the GRN will alter the hormonal cocktail and direct the synthesis of additional trichome populations covering a larger volume of plant mass including sun leaves and branchial structures in hopes the sticky oils will dissuade the attacking insects. This is most beneficial for full extract (FECO) trichome harvesting. More of the plant is covered with trichomes instead of only the flowers.

Wait. What?!? Are you saying bugs are a  good thing?!?

 

[Maritimer]

Wait. What?!? Are you saying bugs are a  good thing?!?

When MeJA foliar spray is applied, the cannabis plants JA Pathways are antagonized and reacts to this like a major insect invasion has occurred although no insects are actually present. Trichome population centers are expanded, and new areas develop in unlikely areas. Sun Leaves and Petioles all become saturated with trichomes. Good Fake Bugs

Ahoy @Keffka good Sir,
I recommend you pay particular attention to ABA and JA in your new studies.
Therein you find the keys my brother.

 

[Jon]

+94

The runt has stopped swelling and building out. Its stigmas are starting to fall/crinkle and it’s throwing out huge waves of trichomes across the buds. I can see resin coming to the surface of the buds and stigmas sticking to it.

This plant is going to pack a huge punch in a small package. I will likely get 3-4 ounces off of it but it’s going to be extremely high quality. Any time you can correctly flower a hybrid for 13+ weeks, you’re going to get a high quality smoke. I’d like to get it to 17 at least but I don’t think she’s gonna stay viable that long.

I received one of my hormone books yesterday and will get the other today so I likely won’t respond as much as normal over this weekend while I read through those. I’ll be stopping at a new grow shop tomorrow morning so I can pickup the last bit of stuff to initiate the recycle as well as meetup with one of our members. I’ll post that information as I start the process of recycling root balls.

Exciting! It’s uncanny how similar in terms of time to harvest our buds look. You’re gonna wait til the red hairs curl in, yes? That’s all I’m really waiting on now.